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I was mostly addressing the mentions that she had been or possibly had been roofied, not being generally drunk. If you're drunk and THEN roofied, that is DEFINITELY something you don't just wake up coherent from in only 2 hours. Just drunk, sure maybe it's possible to snap out of like that for a bit.

Part of the reason I'm a little more innocent until proven guilty in this case is that I've personally had a friend nearly ruined because of a false rape claim. I'm not saying he is innocent, but I can't stand the mob lynching at the drop of a hat on just the accusation. So it really bugs me to see people say false rape claims never happen. I've personally had to intervene and shut down a false rape claim against my best friend by a female friend of mine he was dating. Both her and my ex (her best friend) were literally set to go to the police the next day with her mom to both file false rape claims against him, after already admitting to me it was bogus and they were just doing this because they were angry at him and wanted a way to break up with him and not look bad. I knew they both only dated him (and another friend of mine) because it was actually me they liked and knew they could spend time with me through my friends, so I made it clear to them that ruining my best friend's life with these false claims would 100% forever make me hate them and want nothing to do with them other than vigorously pursuing charges against them for false claims. That was enough to get them to back off and not go through with pressing charges. The worst part is the mom knew the claims were false and was encouraging them to go through with it anyways, I think out of some general hatred for men from her divorce.

You generally don't just "sober up" from date rape drugs like that. If she was sedated enough to cause unconsciousness, she's not coherent until the morning at least. These drugs are known to cause amnesia of the event (which is part of why they're used), so it's highly unlikely she's roofied into unconsciousness, and then just snaps out of it with full clarity to be telling her friends.

I 100% guarantee your stance on that changes if you or someone close to you ever gets falsely accused of a serious crime. I don't care if it's an All Pro QB, "just a punter", the waterboy, or a homeless man in the street, innocent is innocent and you don't ruin their life over a single unproven allegation. Are you seriously going to tell me you're fine giving up your job or life's work if I were to randomly make a claim against you?

Yeah nothing I've read indicated in any way he knowingly gave her an STD. It is completely reasonable to recommend someone who is sexually active as a teen or recently been physical with several strangers (consensual or not) to get tested. As a younger man I had an on again off again gf who was very mature and responsible when it came to sex, and would get tested after EVERY new partner or if she had even the slightest inkling of suspicion a partner might have cheated on her. So hearing that he recommended she get tested after a sexual encounter with several men in one night sounds like a completely mundane thing to me.

I hope you never serve on a jury, because you are literally wrong in the "under any circumstances, even if she lied" bits.

That says nothing. It isn't a quote from him, or even imply that he gave her an STD. She just had sexual contact with several people, it's not a crazy thing to suggest they get tested in general.

Not as much of one as you assume. All it necessarily tells is that he had sex with her. He already admitted to that. It doesn't necessarily tell that he raped her.

Where does it say he knowingly gave her an STD? Admitting to having sex with someone is not inherently illegal, neither is recommending someone get tested after having had sex (consensual or not) with multiple people.

In a state famous for their strict to the point of being ridiculous statutory rape laws. If you are literally one day older than your girlfriend when you turn 18, birthday sex, by law, makes you a rapist.

No specific law, but it is still recognized. Re: Romeo and Juliet exception (again, from ACTUAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS): "However, be aware that this is a limited exception that does not exempt the defendant from a criminal charge but merely reduces the conduct from a felony to a misdemeanor offense. The conduct is still illegal, but someone protected by this exception could incur smaller fines and reduced jail time. Note that this is an exception applied in all circumstances in California, so it is not considered a 'law' in the sense that it must be argued in court."

The defense firm based in California that has articles on their website about statutory rape including possible defenses to charges, that I'm referencing from, says otherwise.

Being 17 doesn't automatically make a statutory rape charge stick in California. If she is lying (and I'm not saying she is) about him knowing her age/telling him her age beforehand, that is a defense.

No Romeo and Juliet exception? I have a tab open right now from a Californian defense firm website specifically talking about how there is one and how it works there.

Let me start off by saying that if the allegations are true, he deserves to be buried under the prison. But the phone call that "does not look good" for him? Hypothetically if he was innocent, and she's suddenly asking weirdly pointed questions about their encounter over the phone when you know an investigation had already been opened, I don't blame even an innocent man to be having massive alarms screaming "SHUT YOUR MOUTH SAY NOTHING FUTHER TO HER" in his head. Innocent or not, YOU DO NOT TALK TO POLICE, and it's not unreasonable to assume she was being directed by police on that call. Police/investigators are very good at getting even innocent people they have their sights on to say things that could be twisted and construed into being evidence against them. Talking to police, even if you are 100% innocent, can LITERALLY do nothing to help you. As for statutory rape in California, their laws are kind of insane. I don't have much to say about this case in that regard because she has to prove she was telling the truth in that he knew she was under 18, but their law is ridiculous. You and your girlfriend could both be 17 in California, with your gf being exactly 1 day younger than you. Every day you have sex and it's apparently perfectly fine. That is, until your 18th birthday, AND ONLY ON THAT SPECIFIC DAY, it is suddenly illegal to have sex with her. Then the next day she also turns 18, and all is good again. The "Romeo and Juliet exception" would reduce your punishment, but there would still be a charge.

And while we're at it, the league needs to step in and mandate 2 weeks of rehab for Stafford's tennis elbow, for his own safety of course.

And why do you have this "feeling"? Do you have sort of knowledge the coaches and medical staff don't? They're mulling over if they will even need to PUP him for 4 weeks, and you're just writing him off for 7 because...?

I thought maybe like a 4.35 40 while looking like he's doing a 4.45 40.

I'm too sore and tired to think, someone explain the 35 in a 45 thing to me.

Oh good. I never wish for or celebrate injuries for our opponents, but I'd begrudgingly accept the advantage...

Is this a serious thread?

They looked to be getting tons of pressure. The Broncos QBs just kept dumping it off quick just to get rid of it before a sack. Can't do much when you have 0.8 seconds to get to the QB before they panic and dump it off. I call that a win.

Yes, the average depiction of Chiefs/Patriots/Dolphins fans these days on Twitter.

The 13 seconds thing doesn't even bother me, it's boring at this point being regurgitated by every troll at every opportunity WELL long after the point of no longer being relevant. It's like if you still ran around screaming I'M PICKLE RIIIIICK thinking it's still hip with the kids.

Outside of his pair of 1 yard TD runs, Moss averaged 8.5 yards per rush. Outside of his 2 yard TD run, Duke Johnson averaged 6.6 yards per rush (including one being stopped at 8 yards cuz another TD). As a team we averaged 7.7 yards per rush, thanks to Barkley bringing down the average with 1 rush for a 1 yard loss. We are freaking spoiled if these are our worst RB performers out of 5.