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That was my entire point… lol But I’ll play. What was the better call?

I’m simply asking you to back up your OP, but instead you’ve just floundered around and become defensive. And if we sat back in zone they probably would have. By blitzing we forced them into making a low percentage throw. It didn’t work in our favor. Doesn’t make it a bad call though.

It wasn’t the same call. They ran two different pressures. The first set up the second.

How so? Do you know the completion rate of the ball that was thrown?

@SnappysnackcakesSo you can’t… got it.

Tell me why. What schematically or situationally made it a bad call?

We didn’t really blitz a ton in the game. It was a lot of 4 man rushes with poor lane integrity. However the way I see it you had two options. Pressure and hope to get home again or rush four and sit back and play coverage. They were out of field goal range so they had to run some type of drop back concept and they did, 3 verts. Taron got beat at the collision point playing catch man and Russ under threw the crap out of the ball because of the pressure. It happens, but that doesn’t make it a bad call. Couldn’t tell you, but I do know that usually when you don’t give a quarterback a lot of time to make a decision good things usually happen. This time it didn’t. That’s football.

I honestly don’t think he would be. I saw a team who had totally lost faith in their play caller last night. Guys didn’t play hard, there was no fire, it was sloppy across the board. At one point in the 4th Q at around the 13 minute mark on the 3 and 8 Josh threw into coverage trying to hit Gabe on the single side again you could see Stef and Josh in the huddle and Josh telling him “trust me”. Something else was said and Josh waved Stef off and said “trust me” again. You can see it all from the broadcast view. Not sure what it was about but Stefan’s face said everything.

Other than the result you still haven’t explained why it was a bad call. If you’re going to make such a bold statement then back it up! How was McDermott outsmarted?

This place man. I tell you what lol.

They aren’t rhetorical. I genuinely wanted an answer, and the answer I got was basically “hindsight is 20/20”. Just because the outcome wasn’t what we wanted doesn't make it a bad call.

Gotta ask @Snappysnackcakes 🤷‍♂️

What makes it a terrible call? Why?

If we get a second sack is it a terrible call?

It wasn’t a Smash concept - it was just a deep out vs. Quarters coverage. Any out or comeback is a Quarters beater. The route to the flat was just a delayed check-down not meant to pull coverage.

Nothing will be different from a scheme standpoint. He's going to run Dorsey's (Daboll's) offense the remainder of the season. Like I said in the other thread - hopefully the players respond to a different voice in the room.

The players stopped playing for him. That's the difference. By and large I don't think his play calling has been terrible. He hasn't gotten his players to execute his plan - that's the issue.

All good. Just trying to help this place be objective instead jumping to conclusions and running with them. Can't wait to share this full season run game breakdown as there's a ton of misinformation floating around this place lately in regards to that.

@DrDawkinstein I must be a terrible reader.

I know what the concepts are that we've thrown interceptions on and they're all different. The only similarity is the area in which the interception occurred. People like to throw around statements on here as if they're fact, but when asked to back those statements up can't - or are unwilling to. There's so much misinformation on this board because people just see something and run with it whether it's true or not.

The defense was in Quarters coverage - Allen isn't reading the DB to determine which throw to make on that play. Outs/Comebacks vs. Quarters coverage is the Quarters beater - you can't throw low and inside. That wasn't a scheme/Dorsey issue - it was a Josh issue.

So that's kind of my point. They haven't been the same concepts. Nor have they all occurred vs the same coverage.

Which ones? I'm genuinely asking.

I dunno - we left a lot of meat on the bone. I'll have to see the A22 first. Bottom line is poor execution in on the players until the same things that are being poorly executed become habit - that's on coaching.

Those of you expecting a wildly different offense in terms of scheme are going to be disappointed. He's going to run the exact same scheme Dorsey was running - you can't just scrap everything and teach a new system mid-year. This move had to be made though before McDermott lost the entire locker room. Despite what the players say post-game/during the week there has been no confidence in what we are doing for a couple weeks now. Stef looked unamused and unengaged throughout the night last night. I'll wait for the A22 to drop before making any comments about the game plan/scheme, but there were multiple times again last night that Josh looked to the opposite side of the field than what I thought he should. Picking man match-ups is one thing, but vs zone play the concept side - thought this was an Allen mistake thing, but I do wonder if this move means it was being coached that way... All in all though - the players didn't play hard for their OC and the same issues that have been occurring over the past however many weeks showed up yet again. Hopefully a different voice in the room ignites these players going forward.