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  1. 24 minutes ago, Virgil said:

    8 - Dorsey/Kromer - I know I keep going negative, and I'm sorry, but it's what I saw.  Our play calling for running plays, and subsequent blocking support is getting worse each game it seems.  After the first Poyer interception, Dorsey called some terrible plays and basically wasted the opportunity.  Yes, Dorsey also gets credit for the winning drive, which was perfect, but the run play calling was terrible.  I was hopeful after the Rams game, as we showed so many different looks.  But now, it's shotgun handoffs between the G/T for no gain on second down.  There's no creativity, no push up front, nothing.  Where's the jet sweep?  Where's the toss play?  Where's anything else?  The Chiefs right now are scary on offense because they are finding a rushing attack that you have to respect.  Right now, I don't know if we could run the ball if the defense only had 3 in the box.

     

    What were some of the concepts we ran and why were they not creative? It's hard to take the word of someone saying we're not creative when the concepts are described as "shotgun runs up the middle".

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  2. Just now, Big Turk said:

     

    Did  Davis miss a block there?  He looks like he wants to block the guy between him and the line(kinda like he did in the Rams game before leaking out for the opening TD) but ends up just standing there doing nothing really.

    Yes, he looked confused as to whether he was suppose to crack the blitzing defender or block the receiver. Schematically I would guess he was suppose to crack that inside defender (otherwise why short motion him into the box). It also puts us in a really advantageous match-ups for Josh since he'd be reading the corner. The corner would have to honor the crack and slide inside (which he did) which in-turn makes it a keep for Allen and puts him 1 on 1 vs. a corner on a short edge. I'll take that match-up 100% of the time and feel great about it. I see what Dorsey was trying to do there - really good scheme there.

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  3. 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    It's actually not, you may just not understand why tho, so it is kinda pointless having actual "real" football conversations with so many people unable to even understand what I am talking about nor understand why it's important.  I feel like a physicist trying to explain advanced concepts to 3rd graders.

     

    OK, now this makes perfect sense!  That is what I am wanting to figure out...thank you for actually posting something that can be used to learn from and understand why this is happening.  It also appears the "read" defender on the play didn't react the way they had hoped as he basically blew up the play by attacking Singletary, although Josh had already handed the ball to him...should Josh have kept it on that paly?

    No, Josh made the right call. The defender was aiming directly at Josh with no path to even play the give to Singletary. He was solely a QB player there. You can see in that clip that Singletary gets tripped up by the Morris' guy, not the blitzing defender.

  4. 9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

    Even with seven in the box, seven outnumbers five, even if you throw in a fullback blocking or a WR in motion hitting someone. That's just the way it is. That's why running plays are schemed to create one specific hole rather than four or five.

     

    Very little blame goes to Josh, IMO.

    This isn't true. Zone schemes focus so heavily on RB vision because the aiming point changes based on what the defense does. The inside zone play I highlighted above for instance has the back look play side A first, but if it's filled he starts looking backside. That's what makes the scheme dangerous because if your back is really good as seeing thing develop quickly and your OL can sustain blocks you can't be wrong.

  5. 9 hours ago, Big Turk said:

     

    If you can show me any play design that features running to a side where the offensive blockers are outnumbered 6 - 4 by defenders I want to know what it is because I have never seen it.  That doesn't require a whole lot of football knowledge of what the players are doing to know that play is not going to work 99 times out of 100.

     

     

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    Having an understanding of the run concept and the blocking scheme helps tremendously when looking at all of this. The Bills are running zone read to Miami's Cover 1 look. In any zone read concept your are purposefully leaving a guy unblocked (this is what you are seeing the majority of the time you're seeing a guy unblocked in the backfield). Josh is reading that defender - if the defender squats at the LoS or is coming directly at him it's a give. If the defender is bending down the heel line of the offensive line to play the dive then it's a keep.

     

    Here's the alignments with the DL movement:

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    The offensive line blocking rules are covered to uncovered to backside backer. Above you can see how it was suppose to be blocked. Morris got blown up by the slanting defender. Slow reaction and feet in order to get the reach block on him which ultimately blew up the play and forced Motor to try to cut it all the way backside. It's pretty obvious we were not running into an overloaded side - we just didn't block it. If we had it would have been a huge gain as you can see below:

     

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  6. 19 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

    Run blocking vs pass blocking, I imagine that the offensive line is more worried about pass blocking on nearly every rpo since Allen is going to keep it

     

    plus Allen likely keeps it more often than he should to begin with (which isn't necessarily a bad thing since most want the ball in his hands as much as possible)

    That's incorrect - all the offensive line hears on a called RPO is the run concept - they are blocking whatever run concept it is tagged with 100% of the time.

  7. 15 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

    A lot of the issues running the ball are that it's run out of RPO's 

     

    Would like to see actual run plays called and see how they do 

    Why do you think this is an issue?

  8. 10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

    Do you have any idea why they aren't committing to running the ball vs light boxes in general though? Apparently they are running vs light boxes at a much lower frequency than in 2021. 

     

    Also it looked like they were blocking a lot of inside zone vs Dolphins. Is that a function of the injuries?

    I wasn't able to watch the Miami game yet, but I'd venture to guess we aren't seeing as many light boxes as we did last season. Teams had to honor our two home run threats on the outside. I don't think anyone views Gabe Davis as a home run threat worth committing help over the top to. He's not a burner, we've just done a really good job of schemeing him open on deep stuff and he's an excellent route runner for a big guy.

  9. 18 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

    Interesting point.

    It's funny how a Derrick Henry can make Ryan Tannehill look so very good, but Josh Allen's talent doesn't for our RB's as Henry for Tannehill has.

    Not a slam on Allen, you just think with so much focus on Josh and the pass, the RB's would have a hey day when runs are called. 

    If Allen wasn't a run threat himself I'd bet you'd see this as we'd see more light boxes. Because he is a run threat your can't afford to give us a light box because we have an extra blocker in the box on any given play.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Einstein said:

    I am a member of a general NFL forum and they have told me for the better part of a year now that McDermott holds our roster back. I’ve brushed off these comments for some time, but i’m starting to see their point.

     

    - 0 and 7 in one score games the last two seasons

     

    - Challenging a clear Titans catch last week was indefensible

     

    - Not challenging a potential Gabe Davis TD this week was indefensible 

     

    - Playing shallow coverage on 3rd and 22, allowing TWO seperate receivers to get open deep, is indefensible

     

    - Not having your WR’s ready to go down with enough time to spike the ball

     

    - Don’t even get me started on 13 seconds

     

    - Our inability to win short yardage situations for several years is indefensible.

     

    - We as a team seem to have removed QB sneak from the play book. We never run it. Ever. See this tweet for how I feel about that. Hard to think that’s not a directive from the top, seeing that two separate OC’s refuse to call it.

     

     

    What is “shallow coverage”?

  11. 2 hours ago, Wizard said:

    With a top shelf passing game and a solid defense (only going to get better when the CB's and DT's) get healthy, there are no complaints whatsoever about scoring 28-40 points a game with Allen at the helm running a pass heavy offense.

     

    I am curious about the vision the team has for the running game though.

     

    Is there an ideal split for carries? Do the Bills plan on having three or four capable backs and churning over new ones every few years for salary to be used on other positions while Allen is a top 3 QB the next decade? Do we have 4-5 passing options each down and keep doing that until a team learns to slow the offense a bit?

     

    I think it is awesome that the Bills barely utilize a running game. Other than Singletary having  like two big games last year to get over 800 yards, our RB's have averaged like 500-600 yards the past 5 years  when you take away Allen's running skills.

     

    I wonder if the Bills will have a bell cow back again, or if RB is likely the 4th option on most plays.

     

    Thoughts?  Would you like to see anything different or are you indifferent like me as long as we win?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The days of the bell cow back are over. You just have to run enough to keep the defense honest. Allen’s threat as a runner also lends a huge hand in our success in the pass game as well so you can’t abandon that either.

  12. 5 hours ago, Locomark said:

    So let’s see we run for 4 yards a play but we pass for 8 yards a play and our QB takes no hits. Hmmm, tough choice. Not. Clock moves slower, we get more possessions, we score more points and we demoralize the Fish even more. This isn’t the old Bills where we were trying to keep other teams from having possessions. We want more possessions, not less. 

    The thread was “how do you stop this offense?”… I’m not suggesting we do any of this lol.

     

    As I’ve said 2 Man is the best chance to shut down what we want to do, but makes you extremely susceptible to the run game. There’s no good option to “stop” this offense which is what the OP really wants to hear.

  13. 9 minutes ago, patzen said:

    It's only a penalty if he's engaged as a blocker downfield. Since he wasn't blocking anyone he's allowed to go wherever he wants as long as he reported as an eligible receiver. We snuck him downfield to block in the second level after setting up the screen.

    He 100% isn't an eligible receiver on that play - he was covered. Ball started on the 10 - he was close enough within that 1 yard downfield range they allow on screens when not engaged for it to not be a flag.

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  14. 5 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

    Hypothetically,  if you were a fan of another team, going against our boys, what in the world do you do on defense to stop the Bills?

     

    I mean they were tough last year but wow , they are operating on a different level. 

     

    We can go 5 wide to a heavy set in a matter of a play and destroy you. With a running game that's effective as well.

    Man/zone, a spy, it doesn't Matter..

    A DCs worse nightmare. 

     

    Just curious about some opinions on What would we be saying in the lead up to a game against Allen and this O? Because I have none.  I have no clue how you stop this O, or slow them down for lack of a better term.

    Go Bills!

    2 man - force us to run the football.

  15. 1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

     

    That's why I think it was a similar play to the one they ran to Davis....Shakir holds the block for a second to let Allen get depth, then releases, Byard comes at Allen and he flips it over his head to a wide open Shakir.

    Nah, that play to Gabe was designed to either go to Gabe or have Allen keep it on the Naked Boot. This 4th and 1 was true Zone Read.

  16. 5 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

    Then I have no idea why Taron didn’t immediately crash down. The bigger fault is rolling 5 DBs out there against that heavy package. Get some more beef on the DL, or more than two LBers on the field. 

    Trying to hold the disguise as long as possible. Epenesa did him no favors either allowing that B gap to widen. Margin for error is next to nothing down there.

  17. Just now, JayBaller10 said:

    The only way it was possible for Taron to get there is if he had zero responsibility from the WR lined up across him and immediately blitzed from the slot. Even then I’m not 100% sold Taron Johnson stops Derrick Henry. (1:50 mark)

    That's exactly right - he had no responsibility for that receiver. They were disguising their front - showing a 4-2 box when really they were playing 4-3 principles.

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