HoofHearted
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4 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:
Idk everything McD says is that Kair has acted like a true professional. He’s not going to come out and say he has a crap attitude but at the same time he wouldn’t do the exact opposite and praise his professionalism if it was really an issue.
I think it’s highly likely that Elam is taking longer to grab the nuances of a zone D than the team anticipated when we drafted him. He’s got the physical skills, but he’s gotta get the “feel” of the zone like Benford and Bernard have and not be thinking out there too much about where exactly he has to be.
One thing about this staff is except for Teller, they don’t give up on players too soon. If Elam gets traded at some point I’m confident it’s because he just couldn’t pick up the system and not for lack of opportunity.
There's no "feel". It's all rule based. Dude will either get it or he won't. I don't buy into any of this about him not understanding how to play zone coverage. There's no team in the world that runs just man coverage. His time with the Bills isn't the first time he's had to learn zone coverages or play in zone coverages. Other dudes have just out-performed him or been more consistent than him. That doesn't mean he's a bust and can't do it - just means there's dudes who are playing better.
I am really curious what we do now though. Benford and Dane really and truly are both field corners. They stuck Benford at the boundary spot after Tre went down, but I don't know if that'll stick going forward.
2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:Usually when you blitz you want to play some level of man coverage behind it - perhaps we were looking to blitz more.
This isn't true...
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I like that we're 4 pages in and OL blocking scheme hasn't been brought up once.
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13 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:
Bottomline is Tre works extremely hard and is smarter (High School Valedictorian). Elam works harder but is likely not as smart as Tre. So you have two 1st round corners one who is one of the smartest in the NFL and is the hardest worker. That is a tough bar to clear if you are Elam. As for Benford and Jackson it is my opinion that the Bills CB 2 is likely more a position of dealing with WR 2 and that is less demanding athletically.
It's not. We play with field and boundary corners. They don't travel with receivers.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:
I mean I've coached and scouted for a long time and I certainly like listening to other coaches and their ideas
But minimal effort and YouTube usually don't go hand in hand
You need thousands of subscribers usually.. which means putting in hours of content and work
I certainly don't think it's as simple as post a video boom .. 500 dollars
For sure. I was referring more to the audio only podcasts.
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17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I don't think there's much supplemental income in there
Unless your name is Jordan Palmer or Ryan Clark.. baldinger... unless you have an NFL name next to you
Most people you see on Twitter and YouTube are amateur scouts and coaches...
Basically doing it for the Love of the game
The cover one guys can do it, cuz they aren't full-time regional scouts or varsity or College coaches
If You're the head coach at canisius you don't have time for a YouTube channel.. you're preparing a game plan for a top team in Ohio.. going to practice and watching film... Having meetings with other coaches
I’ve coached with a few guys who have done some podcast stuff. They won’t ever get rich off of it but they make a decent chunk of extra change for fairly minimal effort. Course it’s other coaches listening to the stuff they’re doing.
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17 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
....you do realize there's just as many draws behind center as in the gun. The main difference is a "delayed handoff" or draw from behind C at least allows the rb a small head start.....
Sorry, it just amuses me that every run out of shotgun is a draw to most fans.
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33 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
You're way better off coaching then trying to be an internet football guru
Supplemental income my friend. There’s so many coaches these days doing the YouTube/Podcast thing. Honestly don’t know where they get the time for it.
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Just now, Buffalo716 said:
I don't think they make that much money
They don't even have Buffalo press credentials
Tragic...
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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:
Here is what Bills ran alot of against Miami.
Palms or Cathy coverage concepts.
https://steelersdepot.com/2017/05/film-room-keith-butlers-palms-coverage/
https://throwdeeppublishing.com/blogs/news/one-coverage-that-solves-a-ton-of-problems
We ran a bunch of split field coverage as opposed to just straight Quarters. Basically what I thought we'd do - Cloud Tyreek and play Quarters opposite. Had a couple variations of it where we zoned the whole quarters side or locked #1 and played Combo on 2&3. Played some 2 Man in 3rd and long situations, and brought some early down pressures rolling 3 behind it. Hyde did a great job with coverage check all day.
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30 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:
Sure but I guess which holds the defender longer. seems a bit harder to find the ball when one player could be running the opposite direction from the RB (versus standing next to them or not running as fast)
One player could be running the opposite direction from the RB out of gun too. The length of time it holds defenders depends on the action.
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On 9/27/2023 at 10:08 AM, HoofHearted said:
I still don't know what you mean by this. Corners won't chase crossers in 2.
I assume we'll likely Cloud whichever side Tyreek is on and play Quarters to the other when we want to sit in coverage. If they get into 3x1 sets with Tyreek at 2 or 3 we'll likely lock our Corner on #1 and play Cloud to the interior two receivers. This guarantees we always have help over the top on him. If we want to bring 5 man pressures we'll roll 3. I don't see us playing much man outside of the redzone unless we're in 2 Man.
Cover 1, I'm ready to enter contract negotiations whenever you are 😉.
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14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
I've always hated the shotgun draw. It completely neutralizes the speed of Cook. Now with 3 different rbs, we have the luxury to freeze lbs and take a few shots downfield. We as fans have been screaming for it (along with more motion) and its finally happening. Hats off to Dorsey & McD recognizing this missing piece.
"the shotgun draw" 😂
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16 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:
What seems to matter (and would like to see some data) is if the formation is under center or not. My thought is under center the ball gets hidden better and thus the LBs come a bit further forward. I also suspect a down and distance aspect to this. 3 & 10 is not gonna bring the LBs up as much as 3 & 3.
Under center or not - a mesh action is going to hold any defender keying the mesh a split second.
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2 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said:
The biggest difference could be that Sean has a better Dline than Leslie ever had. I don't think enough people recognize that. Adding Leonard Floyd to the mix of DaQuon Jones, a healthy Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau entering his breakout 3rd season was huge.
It definitely makes a difference. McDermott seems more willing to dial up pressures on early downs than Frazier was as well and it's reflected in the shift in coverages we're playing compared to last year.
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11 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:
I’m with you that it’s not a gimmick offence as Miami will cause problems all season.
But Miami is a timing based offence and Tua is an 80 percent first read thrower.
It seemed like the bills caused a lot of issues disrupting that first read which caused problems for Tua
Do you think teams can replicate that?
All offenses are timing based to one degree or another. Miami is a half field read team. They design concepts that read at most two defenders, and create movement that pulls players out of position (i.e. Milano getting thrown over on the Y pop early in the game). They do a really good job at creating numerical advantages with their motions as well as putting your force defender in conflict. Add all this to the fact that they make their money on attacking conflict defenders - of course he's an 80% first read thrower - it's a product of the play design. That is what offensive coordinators strive for - their first read to be open every time lol. To call that a gimmick is amusing - it's just well designed and executed play calling.
The Bills did a really good job of mixing up coverages and switching off who the force defender was. That's what led to the muddied reads.
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2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think we are the first team that wised up to using the motion to help us jump the snap count for whatever reason. the DL was all over the throwing lanes right off the snap. There seems to be a disadvantage to the way the dolphins use motion that wasn’t really capitalized on until this week.
DL wouldn't be able to see it. All the short motion outside is completely out of their view. It's possible an off-ball rusher could time those, but it turns into the same type of situation with the New England FG block that everyone was enamored with - as long as there is variation in it offensively it's not something you can time up.
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20 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Don't believe me? Listen to an actual dolphin fanatic
Oh good, I'll listen to some other fan who doesn't know squat about football lol. Does Miami run a ton of full field reads? No. Neither does the majority of the NFL. Welcome to the modern passing game my man. Half field reads - reading single defenders who you're scheming to put into conflict so they can't be right regardless of where they go. Which makes what we were able to do all that more impressive.
EDIT: By the way I lost interest when buddy said we switched to playing almost exclusively man coverage in the middle of the 2nd Quarter lol.
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Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
It's literally a one read offense. That's the definition of gimmicky.
Take away the first read it's over for tua
It's not, but if that's what helps you sleep at night... sure.
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5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Their offense is gimmicky.
Disrupt the timing, no answers
It's not a gimmicky offense at all and saying so kind of down plays how well we were able to play it. Everything the Dolphins do is designed to get defensive players eyes in the wrong spots and create numerical advantages through movement. This much motion is the future of offensive football.
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19 minutes ago, BBFL said:
I get that. Which came to fruition. Was simply talking about being the backup boundary corner. Which Dane is right now; leading to the scratches.Dane's not a backup boundary corner though. That's my point. When Tre got hurt Benford came in for that Boundary spot, most likely out of necessity, but he's really a field corner as well.
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2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
Feel free to merge this with the other Frazier thread but the more I watch this defense, and this team in general, has an edge to it.
It’s pretty clear through 4 games that Frazier wasn’t running McDermotts defense and McDermott determined that his DC was holding some players back.
The difference in play and aggressiveness from Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau have been night and day.
The development of AJ Epenesa who has been really good early this year, Terrell Bernard, Christian Benford look like pro bowl type players now.
just a huge night and day difference with some of these guys from last year.
Incorrect, it's the same system. McDermott is just a more aggressive play caller than Frazier. Same system, same concepts, different signal caller is all the difference.
1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said:with McDermott there are adjustments and a diff game plan week to week I swear with Frazier it was the same exact thing every week regardless of the opponent
Silly statement...
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Dirty play design right there boys! Dorsey dialing it up!
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5 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Let’s say this is a common occurrence for the remainder of the season, do we move on from Kaiir or hold onto him for insurance in the event we don’t resign Dane in 2024?
He's insurance for Tre, not Dane.
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Just now, k2mountain said:
I'm praying for Terrel Bernard to have a exceptional day as QB of the defense. That will be pivotal.
Gonna be more on the secondary, specifically Hyde, to get us in the correct coverage checks vs all the motion today.
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It was always play action.
in The Stadium Wall
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The mesh is just one part of the formula for what sells the action as a whole. The blocking scheme up front is another part of that formula. You want your pass protection to mirror the same look as one of your run schemes. The easiest, and probably most prevalent in the NFL when under center, is to mimic stretch since the OL is moving horizontally. We did this a number of times this past week. Dorsey actually dialed up a really cool protection where they showed stretch blocking and after about a two or three count Morse spun back to pick up the free edge rusher (it was the big pass to Cook on the sideline). This is why RPOs are so successful though. You can scheme to get a linebacker to go wherever you want them to go, and if they don't then just hand it off because they won't have the numbers to fit the run.