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Don't think I've watched any of his.

I've said this before, but he's okay. Feels like he's learned the majority of his football knowledge from google as he calls things the wrong thing quite often. Doesn't seem to fully understand blocking schemes or coverages/coverage rules. Offensively he does a good job of recognizing concepts and finding a term to call it (think he's using one of the old Patriots playbooks that are out there because a lot of his terms come from their terminology), but understanding who the read is on those plays and how route progression vary based on those reads is not something he excels in. I think his offensive video's are better than the defensive ones - probably because there is more information out there on offenses than defenses? Maybe I'm just hyper-sensitive to it because I'm in it, but these videos get cringey at times.

Young backers are gonna be the key to the game for us defensively today. Excited to see how they do.

All of the raw data that goes into film breakdown on a per play basis so things like Team, ODK, QTR, Time, Series, P&10, Series, Dn, Dist, Gain/Loss, Hash, Yd Ln, Play Type (Run or Pass), Result (Cmp, Inc, Rush, TD, etc.), PFF tracks the jersey number of every player on the field on a per play basis, Jersey number of players who touched the ball offensively on a given play (QB, RB, WR/TE), etc. And then the teams will input their own data using their terminology for the football specific stuff. All of the base data that anyone can gather though is extremely time consuming to input manually.

The teams don’t pay for the grades. Those are useless to them. The teams pay for the raw data because they can manipulate it however they want to find tendencies.

That’d be disheartening… PGF outsources their grunt work to India which for most things isn’t an issue - but you’d like to have actual football people do the subjective stuff

Any idea who’s doing the data mining?

They actually ran Midzone well last week. Think it averaged 5 yards a pop iirc. Beat schemes for them last week were Dart and ISO though. Inside zone has been horrific though. For multiple weeks.

More often than not their tied to stunts, so yeah, but its effectiveness is based on hiding the whole look not specifically the coverage. Huh, that Cover 1 article was interesting. There wasn’t any disguise, or what I would define as disguise, on that play. Plus they weren’t even in Quarters coverage there.

You can disguise (or not disguise) any coverage. Haven't seen any of the breakdowns but would be interested in seeing them if you remember where you found them.

Where does their data come from?

These from PFF?

So easy that you don't even know what he's running. 😉

Without context I don't think it "clearly" tells us anything.

Quarters So as far as terminology goes most coaches differentiate Quarters from Cover 4. Cover 4 is your true spot drop - defensive backs playing their lanes - coverage (think an umbrella coverage - keep everything in front of you - super safe). Quarters has many names - Quarters, Palms, 2 Read (there may be more but those are the main three). This is a man match coverage concept with varying coverage calls and rules based on the offensive formation/alignments. You have your 2x2 concepts and your 3x1 concepts and those can/will vary based on the alignment of the offense. It's up to the Safeties to get the secondary into the best coverage call vs what they are seeing from an offensive alignment. So in 2x2 for example you could have one call for 2x2 normal splits, a different call for 2x2 wide splits, a different call for 2x2 stack, and a fourth call for 2x2 condensed splits. All of those will have their own sets of post-snap match/coverage rules. Then you'll have your various ways of playing 3x1, again based on personnel/alignment and what you want to do with that backside Safety. Cover 6 Cover 6 will play Quarters to the field, but now play Cover 2 to the boundary. There's various ways to play 2 into the boundary, more often than not it's going to be a 2 Carry concept where the corner will sink with 1 vertical until the ball pulls him off of it, but you could also play a hard Cover 2 or even Trap to that side of the field. Again you have your different menu of calls based on splits and it's up to the Safety to put you in the best call. 3x1 to the field is where it gets interesting because your backside Safety is now occupied in coverage to the boundary so there will be multiple calls that will vary based off of how you want to play 3 vertical. As far as athleticism goes - every year players are becoming more and more athletic as there are advancements in sports science. With the game continually trending more and more towards passing obviously players are going to need to be more athletic at positions that, even 10 years ago, were more built to stop the run first. This increase in athleticism doesn't just magically make one coverage better than another though.

Of course there is. It’s an adrenaline pump. I’m not saying there isn’t, but that doesn’t mean it’s a natural human response. Think about youth football - kids first experience playing the game. When they initially learn to tackle their natural reaction is to tense up before contact. As you grow older this gets trained out of you but it still doesn’t make the action a natural one. @MJS

I can explain them to you if you’d like. There’s no new wrinkles. Those schemes have been around for forever. The only thing that has been changing defensively in the NFL is teams are running more split safety coverages but MOFC coverages still dominate like they always have.

Depends how much money he’s after. What are some of these new defensive concepts?

It’s not a natural human response to want to throw yourself into another human being. You don’t want your first taste of it to be in live action. It just mentally and physically prepares yourself for the dog fight you’re about to be in. Plus it’s one more opportunity to work technique.

The majority of times I've seen receivers close to each other has been on scramble drills where guys are just trying to run to grass to get open for Josh.

Gabe's fine. He has his limitations but his role in our scheme is established and he can execute it well. I wish he caught the ball differently than he does, but that's him and how he's always done it. I think what gets lost on fans is how complex our system is. There's a ton of route conversions within the concepts we run and it takes time and reps to be able to make decisions quickly based on post-snap reads. It's also what allows us to be consistently one of the top offenses in the league year in and year out. We'll be fine.

This is what gets me about this place (and totally not saying this is you). We ran the same exact play to Shakir last week and we didn't convert with it and everyone was talking about how it was such a horrible play call, bad scheme, etc. but this week we run it and it scores and it's brilliant lol. Again, not saying this is you - just a general statement about the board as a whole as I've seen multiple comments that match your sentiment.

Nah, typically the backside of those coverage specific routes is either a man beater or a universal concept that can win again anything. As far as the screen game - I really only like the perimeter screen game with this group. I don't think our OL are athletic enough in open space to engage blocks so avoiding those is 100% the right call. Our perimeter screen game should be fantastic though if we use Knox and Kincaid as the MDM blockers.

I said this in another post somewhere, but schematically I'd like to see more shifts and motions. I really liked what we were doing pre-snap in the miami game, but a lot of that was opponent specific because of all the man and man-match coverages they run. We do some good things with misdirection, I'd like to see more of that going forward - anything to get a defense moving or having to communicate as the ball is being snapped is good business for an offense. I think Dorsey does a phenomenal job of calling concepts that attack the coverages we're seeing in specific down/distance/field zone situations. The struggles with balance within series has largely been due to getting off schedule or not sustaining drives. I'd like to see him incorporate our tight ends on the perimeter a lot more than they currently are. We should be a hellacious screen team with Knox and Kincaid kicking out Corners on perimeter screens, but we haven't really utilized them a whole lot. There's been a few occasions where Josh has held the ball a little long for various reasons, but then just overall execution of the entire offense needs to improve early in games, specifically the offensive line and I think it will the longer they play with each other. Unfortunately there isn't one thing you can point to as the problem the last two weeks, but the good news is that the issues are all easily correctable. Why do you say that?