Shaw66

Yes to Edelman. Edelman played maybe 10 years, had three years over 100 yards. No to Welker. Welker was a major threat, a guy went well over 100 yards five times. Those guys were the same style, size, yes. What do you mean, scratch the surface? Is he ever going to lead the league in reception yards - like 1500 yards? He might have a year like that, but he's not going to be a top 5 star. He's not going to be as good as Diggs was. He's playing in a scheme designed to get him the ball, and against defenses that give up the short pass in order to stop the deep ball. So Davis and Kincaid are stars now? They're ordinary NFL receivers. Nice to have, but not stars.

Yes, he had more yards per catch last year, but he was way, way under 1000 yards. He wasn't a feature receiver. This season he's being used differently. Yes, he's doing more, and yes everyone is happy with him. I'm just saying he's no star. He's a guy who has skills and a scheme that allow him to take advantage of defensive schemes designed to stop deep balls.

Sorry, Dawg, I don't buy all this Shakir love. He's a nice solid player, but relying on stats like his catch percentage and his YAC to prove he's great is misguided. His catch rate and his YAC are high because he's a punt returner/ball carrier, not a true wideout. Why is his catch rate high? Because the Bills run a lot of plays for him designed to get him the ball around the line of scrimmage with running room. He's an extended part of the running game. So, throws to him are easy, because he's supposed to be open to take what is an extended handoff. His YAC is high for the same reason. The Bills want him to get the ball in space, because he has unique ball carrying skills, with excellent change of pace and direction. That's what makes his numbers high. He isn't creating his numbers by running the routes that Diggs or Coleman or Kincaid or Cooper or any of the other true receivers run. He's not catching sideline balls, he's not catch back-shoulder balls, he's not catching deep balls. He's excellent in this offense, and he's a real weapon, but when defenses begin to focus on playing him tight off the line of scrimmage, I think he will struggle. I think he's always going to be a complementary receiver. He's never going to be a high-priced free agent.

I agree about Williams. As for Miller, the book is still open on him. I'm expecting some big sacks from him in the next three months.

If the question is "Who has been more productive," I don't think there's a lot to discuss. Many people have demonstrated that Mario had the better career in Buffalo, at least to date. That could change, of course, with one timely sack by Von in the Super Bowl. But the question was which was the better signing? To that, I'd say they were equally good. Mario never turned out to be worth all the Bills paid him, but it was an important signing in Bills' history. It made the Bills relevant for the first time in a long time. The conventional wisdom at the time was that no top-end free agents would sign with the Bills, because no one wanted to play in Buffalo and Buffalo was consistently cheap - good free agents LEFT Buffalo, they didn't go TO Buffalo. The Bills sent a message to the league when they signed Mario - "We ARE relevant, and we WILL be good." Of course, the message was premature, but it still marked something of a turning point for the franchise. The Miller signing was great for another reason. The Bills looked like they were one player - an impact player - away from the Super Bowl, and there was no greater impact player available than Von. In fact, the Rams acquired Miller for that reason, and to the surprise of the league, the Bills took him away from the Rams. It hasn't worked out as the Bills had hoped, but who knows what would have happened if Mario hadn't torn up his knee? In both cases, the Bills' GM went after a great player and got him. Both signings were great, among the best in Bills' history.

Sad news. Always enjoyed his posts.

Some stats are performance stats. They tell how productive a player is. Total yards, passer rating, etc. Some stats are analytic stats. They may relate to productivity, and they help coaches figure out how to make players more productive, but in and of themselves they don't tell us how good a player is. However mich separation the Bills receivers have been getting, they've been productive lately.

Exactly. Definitely a good showing, but let's not overstate it. When they made noise, Seahawk fans were MUCH louder than Bills fans. The reality is that the Bills let all the air out of the stadium with their opening drive. Seattle fans never got their energy back after that. They got quieter, and the Bills fans could compete with that quieter Seahawks crowd.

That's when the defender is in you back pocket. Sure it does. Separation is important, and stas like this are important to coaches when they're trying to improve performance. However, when you're one of the beat passi g teams in the league, it isn't cause for concern. EVERY team has some negative stays on one category or another. KC is about 20th in passer rating.

No way. 20%, tops.

Guy was a stud for the Bills. And for Damar.

This is one of those cherry-pucked stats. Yes, it would be nice have more separation, but Bills are 4th in passer rating. That's fine me and much better than 4th in separation and last in passer rating. Last season everyone complained about YAC. Cherry-picked stats don't mean a lot.

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True. There always are visiting team fans around me in Orchard Park, and they celebrate wins there just like we do on the road.

Many Seahawks jerseys are same color blue. There were more blue Hawks jerseys than Bills jerseys. A lot of the blue jerseys are 12th man jerseys with the number 12. I kept thinking they were Kelly jerseys. No. There also were more than a few Kelly 12 jerseys.

I think the 5th year option is valuable if you don't want to extend him, like Edmunds. If you want to extend, it will get done in the 4th year either way.

I agree about the vision, at least as compared to Cook. But he attacks holes with a good burst and some power. He is an effective runner but less of a break-away threat.

And Atlanta.

I thought the same thing. Cook accelerates better - instant speed

Yes! OJ always wore short sleeves. He said he could feel tacklers better that way, even before contact.

I think someone pulled him aside and showed him how easy it would be to get injured doing that. Contract time is coming, and an injury could cost him millions.

I was noticing yesterday how patient Cook has become. He gets behind the line and waits. And waits. When he sees the opening, he has a remarkable burst of speed and takes off to the hole. That burst, together with his ability to change direction quickly, has made him really effective running between the tackles. His speed at the edge is obvious. He has also been impressive getting the last yard or two in his runs. He is by no means a power back, but he keeps working th extra yard, especially around the goal line. For most of his rookie season, he couldn't win the starting job, but the Bills knew what they had.

In his press conference after the game, Geno Smith gave credit to the Bills fans in the stadium. He said sometimes it sounded like he was playing on the road. I was sitting pretty far up in the lower bowl on the Seahawk sideline, and there was a lot of noise coming from all the Bills fans from goal line to goal line on the Bills sideline. Great job.

I heard it exactly the other way around. I went to those games, but I certainly was no expert in defensive line play (then or now), so I can't say one way or the other. Either way, that defense was stifling.

Actually, I heard it said that Dunaway was the best player on that defense and that Sestak was able to make the plays he did - which were great - because Dunaway drew double teams on almost every play. Not worth arguing about. Jacobs was outstanding, and Tracey and Stratton were very good. Edgerson and Byrd were an outstanding pair at cornerback, and I loved Saimes. The Bills had trouble controlling McDole's weight. There was story that one year he came to camp substantially overweight, and the Bills put him on a strict diet. After a couple of weeks of dieting, McDole hadn't lost a pound. The Bills were baffled. They decided to put his room under surveillance. That's when they discovered that McDole was sneaking out of room late at night and going to a nearby McDonald's, where he pounded down multiple double cheeseburgers. He was a character.