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This is one of those cherry-pucked stats. Yes, it would be nice have more separation, but Bills are 4th in passer rating.
That's fine me and much better than 4th in separation and last in passer rating.
Last season everyone complained about YAC. Cherry-picked stats don't mean a lot.
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$14.00 to Stef's foundation.
I'm in.
https://www.givesignup.org/DonationWebsite/TheStefonDiggsFoundation/Donate
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2 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:
My recollection is that, in general, there are just a lot more opposing team fans in every stadium now then there were back then.
Biggest reason being the ease of buying tickets on-line, either from the team or especially the resale market.
Back in the day, you had to hang out by the stadium and buy with cash from scalpers.
True. There always are visiting team fans around me in Orchard Park, and they celebrate wins there just like we do on the road.
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1 hour ago, NickelCity said:
Trying to upload a pic of the Bills' side of the stadium. Hell of a lot of Bills colors all over...
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Many Seahawks jerseys are same color blue. There were more blue Hawks jerseys than Bills jerseys.
A lot of the blue jerseys are 12th man jerseys with the number 12. I kept thinking they were Kelly jerseys. No. There also were more than a few Kelly 12 jerseys.
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5 hours ago, pennstate10 said:
In retrospect, the 1 spot drop which got us a 5 for 6 swap may not have been a great deal, cause we don’t get the 5th yr option on Coleman now.
As an aside, I watched a bit of Legette yesterday. He doesn’t have nearly as much polish as Coleman.
I think the 5th year option is valuable if you don't want to extend him, like Edmunds. If you want to extend, it will get done in the 4th year either way.
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17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Meh. I am not a massive fan of Davis's vision. He has good burst, he is a decisive runner and he always falls forward, but vision wouldn't be one of his major strengths.
I agree about the vision, at least as compared to Cook. But he attacks holes with a good burst and some power. He is an effective runner but less of a break-away threat.
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1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Also throw in Houston
And Atlanta.
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2 minutes ago, folz said:
Agree. I actually thought during the game yesterday, watching him be patient and follow his blocks, that he was reminding me of prime Le'Veon Bell
I thought the same thing. Cook accelerates better - instant speed
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20 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
He has excellent vision which is such an underrated trait. Thurman, Shady, and Cribbs were the absolute best. I never saw OJ live so I can't comment on him or Coookie. Spiller was the absolute worst. He had speed and power but was just the absolute worst at reading blocks.
Yes!
OJ always wore short sleeves. He said he could feel tacklers better that way, even before contact.
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I think someone pulled him aside and showed him how easy it would be to get injured doing that. Contract time is coming, and an injury could cost him millions.
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I was noticing yesterday how patient Cook has become. He gets behind the line and waits. And waits. When he sees the opening, he has a remarkable burst of speed and takes off to the hole. That burst, together with his ability to change direction quickly, has made him really effective running between the tackles. His speed at the edge is obvious.
He has also been impressive getting the last yard or two in his runs. He is by no means a power back, but he keeps working th extra yard, especially around the goal line.
For most of his rookie season, he couldn't win the starting job, but the Bills knew what they had.
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In his press conference after the game, Geno Smith gave credit to the Bills fans in the stadium. He said sometimes it sounded like he was playing on the road. I was sitting pretty far up in the lower bowl on the Seahawk sideline, and there was a lot of noise coming from all the Bills fans from goal line to goal line on the Bills sideline. Great job.
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6 hours ago, Spiderweb said:
With all due respect, I always heard and read that Sestak was the really monster in his prime, not Dunaway,who while good, was not in Sestak's world.
I heard it exactly the other way around. I went to those games, but I certainly was no expert in defensive line play (then or now), so I can't say one way or the other.
Either way, that defense was stifling.
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On 10/6/2024 at 11:15 AM, Bob in STL said:
The former GM if the Packers, Ron Wolf, was also a huge advocate for Shaw. He said Shaw was the best guard in either league and [pushed for him.
Sestak was another star Bills player that was an AFL only player, but he didn't get the same support for HoF. Sestak is on the All Time All AFL team too, and was dominant when the Bills won their 2 AFL Championships. Any of his teammates would tell you he was the best player on that defense. Most of the those guys are gone today. This line up, coached by DC Joe Collier, was very hard to score on.
McDole Dunaway Sestak Day
Tracey Jacobs Stratton
Edgerson Byrd
Saimes Clarke
Actually, I heard it said that Dunaway was the best player on that defense and that Sestak was able to make the plays he did - which were great - because Dunaway drew double teams on almost every play.
Not worth arguing about. Jacobs was outstanding, and Tracey and Stratton were very good. Edgerson and Byrd were an outstanding pair at cornerback, and I loved Saimes.
The Bills had trouble controlling McDole's weight. There was story that one year he came to camp substantially overweight, and the Bills put him on a strict diet. After a couple of weeks of dieting, McDole hadn't lost a pound. The Bills were baffled. They decided to put his room under surveillance. That's when they discovered that McDole was sneaking out of room late at night and going to a nearby McDonald's, where he pounded down multiple double cheeseburgers. He was a character.
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11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
I don’t think that’s right — cooper’s insanely quick and precise foot movement and stop-start ability out of violent breaks are his forte, and while I wouldn’t say he’s unique in that regard, he is top five elite in that category. Fitzgerald was a contested catch monster and the prototype for deandre hopkins et al. Different elite skill sets. I’d also add that for many years, Fitzgerald was a top 3 receiver.
Yes, maybe Fitzgerald was better than Cooper.
The fact that he may be top five in one separate category of skills is really irrelevant. I just took a look back, and I think Cooper has been in the top 10 in receiving yards three times since he came into the league in 2015.
As I've said, I think he's a good fit for the Bills. He's better, clearly better than any receiver on the roster (only Coleman has the talent to even hope to become what Cooper has been). He's a good fit because he fits what the Bills are trying to do generally, which is to have a collection of receivers who can run the entire route tree from many different formations. He's made a career of doing that. And he's important because in critical situations, the defense takes a big risk if they don't double him. That's exactly what the Bills need, because Shakir, Coleman, and Kincaid all are good enough to take advantage when the defense is focusing on Cooper.
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26 minutes ago, Utah John said:
I think it was Beane's plan to draft a WR next year, and to hope for the best riding with what we had for this year, thinking this wasn't the best team we were going to have. That wasn't working and the team turned out to be better than he expected, so he made a move to challenge for the SB this year.
I think you seriously misunderstand Beane, McDermott, and the Bills. Yes, Beane may think that this team isn't as talented as next year's team may be, but McBeane think they are competing for a Lombardi this season. They've thought that since the Bills lost to the Chiefs in the playoffs, and they've thought that whether they got Cooper or not. They know, and I think most Bills fans know, that with McDermott and Allen, the Bills are in the hunt every season.
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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
So you are saying Cooper isn't the best WR in football. Ok that is fair.
He has to be at least top 15. Which makes us a much better team. Diggs was top 3 but is no longer. And I hated moving on from Diggs.
The rest of the guys would struggle to be listed in the top 50 or maybe top 100.
Top 50 may be harsh, but I basically agree with you.
I wasn't dissing Cooper, or didn't intend to. I agree that he's top 15 (or thereabouts), and that's great for the Bills.
Cooper isn't Lamb, isn't Jefferson, isn't even Mike Evans. I'd compare him to Larry Fitzgerald - a guy whom I wouldn't call explosive, but I guy I definitely want on my team. What I like about him, and what I liked about Fitzgerald, is that he knows his role and he does his job, and he's able to do it at a very high level. As I said in my earlier post, he's a perfect guy for McDermott - and unless Cooper hits a wall this season, I fully expect that he'll be back next season.
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I hate to say this, but I think Cooper may be the prototypical Bills player - the kind of guy McDermott loves. He has talent and he does his job, and he doesn't let anything else get in the way. Put another way, his play isn't animated by burning passion; instead, it's animated by excellence at his position.
That means he's a guy who is very productive but isn't a big-play star. He isn't Justin Jefferson or Chris Jones. He's like Rousseau - really talented, good size, does his job. It's why the Bills took Coleman instead of Worthy.
If I'm right about that, then he's a perfect guy to drop into this receiver group: all-round excellent receiver, better than anyone else in the room, will make everyone around him better. Just the kind of guy McDermott loves.
Cooper will make the Bills better, game in, game out, but he isn't necessarily going to make the big play that a guy like DHop does.
I "hate to say" it because I think every really successful team needs at least one truly outstanding guy at a key position. Cooper isn't that guy, at least I don't think so.
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I will be at the game.
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Bills Titans is pretty boring in the stadium.
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On 10/18/2024 at 1:05 PM, RiotAct said:
just curious @Shaw66 - in your 2nd paragraph, what digital manipulations are you referring to?
I know they (Amazon/TNF) have some snazzy “overlay” graphics when going to commercial break, but I don’t think that’s what you were talking about
I commented about this in response to someone else. They take the video output from the cameras and then digitally zoom in to fill the screen with most of the players in the formation. That means that at the snap, you sometimes cannot see all 11 players. That makes it harder to understand what the teams are doing. And their closeups on the players are tighter, too. It creates some visual overload, so far as I'm concerned. I suppose that younger viewers, video game players, are used to these more intense visual presentations.
Again, I know I don't like it, and the NFL probably knows I don't like it. But the NFL doesn't care, because I'm no longer in their target demographic.
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On 10/18/2024 at 1:24 PM, Sweats said:
What i found for this season for the most part is that there just really aren't too many quality teams to watch this year. There just seems to be a lot of average teams and that makes for just an average watching experience.
Shaw, you've been around for a while.......do you remember the slugfests in the 80's and early 90's? Do you remember the quality of the players and teams? Do you remember the rivalries? Do you remember where every game felt like it meant something, and it usually did when there was a lot of pride on the line between franchises.......the House of Pain, the House of Noise, etc.
It felt like every game was well worth watching for the experience. The players had a chip on their shoulders and the rivalries alone were worth tuning in every week (San Fran vs. Dallas, Bills vs. Miami, etc.).......an era where you had the likes of Elway, Kelly, Marino, Rice, Okoye, Thomas, White, etc.
The quality of play was better. The refs didn't dictate the game and yes, the game was rougher, but guys were allowed to tackle without fear of the flag on every play.
It feels to me that the NFL has been "dumbed down" for this era and especially this year it has been less than average watching experience for the fans.
I'm a big college guy, have been for many years and i enjoy college ball tons more than i enjoy the NFL.....it used to be that i would watch every NFL game and now i only watch the Bills, but if there were more meaningful rivalries, i would watch more as the watching experience would mean more.
As it stands now, there is no rivalry outside of the Bills that even warrants my interest.
Maybe we just don't remember accurately, but I do think the game has gotten less interesting. It was simpler, easier to understand in the 80s. Big hits, teams that were known commodities, etc.
I really appreciate the comments people have made here. Most importantly, I think it's the old guys like me who are complaining, and the NFL doesn't care about us. We aren't buying beer or cars, just medication. So, the games are being produced to appeal to a different generation.
However, I think your point is important. Football has been, by far, the best TV sport ever invented, but I think the same thing may be happening to football as happened to baseball. In baseball, the teams figured out the best way to win games was to hit homers, regardless of how many times players struck out trying. What that meant is that the game evolved to maximize winning, but the evolution went in a direction that made the game a less interesting TV product. I think the NFL may have thie same problem: The thing that coaches are figuring out to maximize winning are making the game less watchable. Add to that the rule changes to reduce injury, like the new hip-drop tackle rule that is necessary, make the game, and officiating the game, baffling.
When teams played straight man to man with occasional double teams or straight zone coverage, when they lined up in identifiable ways (3-4 or 4-3 on defense and more standard formations on offense) it was easier to understand what was happening on the field.
Thanks to everyone for their comments.
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3 minutes ago, 947 said:
For the actual TV coverage, what bothers me the most is that they zoom in so much, that you can't see half of the field.
On a 3rd & 7, I want to see what formation the offense lines up in, I want to see pre-snap defensive coverage & what the Safeties do- but instead I get a a close-up of the QB's face yelling out his calls & cadence, or a graphic of some stupid thing like how a player is the career leader in Monday Night 3rd down targets. You have no idea what the teams are doing until after the snap when they zoom out.
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1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:
For that point (team assembly) I think there are a couple of things at play. One is the longer season and more injuries. A move based on an injury makes a lot of sense for any contending team - this was our R Douglas move last year. Kind of hoping KC is left out of it, but they would be in this category.
A second thing I think is starting to happen is the culture of playing hurt, coming back as soon as possible, is going away. This year players with hanmy's are going on the IR - Nico Collins for example. E Engram took 4 games from a pre-game hamstring. C Kupp extended his time off and SF seems to be load managing McCaffrey for the playoffs. Even for the Bills, J Cook out with a toe injury.
And yes, I think Beane will keep looking at the possibility for another adjustment at S or LB if he can find one that fits. I'm just glad he found the WR piece - because it makes me think this squad is a contender.
As to your overall thought in the OP, it's not declining for me. Fantasy Football and betting aspects can make routine games interesting.
Good point about IR. It feels like tams almost welcome a chance to put guys on IR for a break early in the season.
3 minutes ago, 947 said:For the actual TV coverage, what bothers me the most is that they zoom in so much, that you can't see half of the field.
On a 3rd & 7, I want to see what formation the offense lines up in, I want to see pre-snap defensive coverage & what the Safeties do- but instead I get a a close-up of the QB's face yelling out his calls & cadence, or a graphic of some stupid thing like how a player is the career leader in Monday Night 3rd down targets. You have no idea what the teams are doing until after the snap when they zoom out.
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Diggs hurt (Torn ACL - out for the season)
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Guy was a stud for the Bills. And for Damar.