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OK so last week I didn't take this serious and we lost so not doing that again Bills 34 Jets 17 Bills storm out to a 14-0 lead in the 1st quarter powered by a Diggs 40 yd TD and a Singletary TD on a screen. The Jets get a FG in the second quarter as the defense holds strong in the redzone and Buffalo goes down the field for a FG themselves. Tre White gets his first INT of the year on the next possession and Allen finds Beasley on a slant to put the Bills up 24-3. The Jets score late in the half on a TD from White to Davis to make it 24-10. The Jets get the ball out of half but turn the ball over on a sack fumble by Groot. Allen throws a TD to Sanders on a slant fade and it is 31-10 Buffalo 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter. From there the Bills coast and Mitch gets a FG drive while the Jets get a late TD run by carter to make it look closer in score. Allen 24-32 342 yds 4 TDs 15 yds rush Singletary 72 yds 14 carries 35 yds 3 rec 1 TD Diggs 156 yds 1 TD 8 rec White 1 INT 2 PD 2 tackles

The Steelers, Phins, & Jags games all had a common theme of a team that under estimated their opposition and thought they would just win because they are talented. I agree I thought the Phins game would've got the offense to say "crap we really need to tighten up" but it didn't.

I really think the team themselves underestimated the grit, work, and fight mentality needed after they lost to the Titans. They beat Miami and everyone was back to saying they were the best team in the AFC etc.. and they didn't even play that well or spirited that day. Since KC they look like a team that just feels they deserve to win as opposed to earning it.

ZERO FUN SIR!

I would also add that Josh has proven over the last few years he is very capable and dependable at winning games, this year it just hasn't gone our way as the Titans and Jags he came up short. It happens. I know people idolize Brady or Rodgers etc.. but they have not won every game in their career and successfully comeback every time.

Exactly. While I get wanting your QB to lead game winning drives 24/7, you can't pick the good games your QB has and what your opponent does. Until this week Allen was #1 for MVP in betting because he played well. Seems weird to jump ship that fast as a fan anger wise

100% agree. If I were to say what is the Bills core through 2025 it would be this: Offense: Allen Diggs Davis (for now) Knox Dawkins Brown Defense: Oliver Groot Edmunds Milano White T. Johnson Pretty solid core but you can see if they can get just one more true stud it would do wonders to the strength of this group. Get two or three more great guys and the sky is the limit.

Agreed. I know Bills fans really love to hype our team, but the Bills are more driven by a deep collection of B- to B+ type players with maybe 3-4 true A caliber guys being Allen, Diggs, White, & I would argue Milano when healthy which is his biggest caveat. The depth helps in terms of making the team competitive across the board, but they are missing at least one if not two guys to put them over the top for real. The defensive line is good example of this because they are solid as a group at DT/DE but realistically there is no true star or alpha player just guys playing their role at a high level. Now nothing necessarily wrong with this when you have Allen at QB especially, but the Bills look a lot to me like the Packers of the last decade where they have a stud QB, WR, one two guys on defense and then just depth not true alpha difference makers. That is the missing piece and its hard to get.

My point is more you are not going to go 5-1 every year in one score games and they had games last year they could've lost which they didn't play as well. If they lost to the Rams everyone would've been fuming, we only view it as a good game because we won.

Please remember the Brady you see now was not the Brady that existed back in the first part of his career. 2007 was the year he morphed into the guy you see now. I think if Allen gets another year or two of facing this coverage the patience and attack will come like Brady. Up until this point he hadn't faced coverage like this and against the Titans he picked them to pieces so the ability is there.

The COVER 2 is effective IF you are able to get pressure quickly on the QB. Both Allen and Mahomes this season are having guys coming through before they can even make a read properly. Yea the Cover 2 takes away the easy downfield threat, but the bigger issue is more the lack of time to get the open guy. Given Allen 3 seconds of true pocket time not him running to make the pocket and the effect is muted. The Titans game they ran Cover 2 a lot but he had more time to make throws. That really is the crux of it to me.

The last time I can remember the Bills so thoroughly off was McD's first season when they hit that 0-3 stretch. It is very odd to see them so uncomposed.

I am not disagreeing. My point though was last year against the Jets the offense wasn't great there but they got a catch or play here. If Gabe Davis catches that pass and the Bills win 13-9 the conversation is different right now the same way the win over the Jets become a non thing despite only getting 18. This season the breaks are not falling their way AND mixed with bad play it is biting them hard. I 100% agree the execution and performance was awful.

One of the things that defies good vs bad teams is seasons like this. Truthfully Buffalo deserved one of PIT/TEN/JAX just in percentage goes your way type thing and didn't, yet they are still 5-3 and ok at this moment. Bad teams don't get those wins AND they are 3-5 or 4-4 because they couldn't make up the difference. Sports are weird haha

Don't disagree which is why I said this year we are getting the opposite of good fortune. Odds are they will get some luck back in a game or two, but good fortune hides sometimes what would be bad or very disappointing losses.

Last year the Bills had a superb record in one score games going 5-1 in games decided by 8 pts or less (I did 8 because a TD can get a 2 pt conversion) with the only blemish being a freakin Hail Mary, so almost a perfect 6-0. This year in their 5 wins Buffalo has been averaging in victory at least 15 pts or more in point differential to their opponent, but all three losses have been one score affairs where a break here in each one swings it and we just didn't get it. Additionally last year was superb on 4th downs and this year they have been crap. Here is a look at how close things have been: PIT: The block punt for TD. Without that it is 16-16. Additionally the Bills themselves came within a whisker of a block punt for a TD. Both fourth down calls were failures in this game. TEN: The obvious big play is the failed fourth down conversion at the end. Last year that is a TD, this year luck just wasn't our fortune there. Additionally the Titans on 4th and 2 themselves converted a 15 yard play to AJ Brown on a drive that put the Titans back up 24-23. JAX: Two plays stuck out to me as the killers of victory. The fumble by Allen when they were in FG range to tie and the drop by Davis who had twenty yards of pavement in front to put the Bills in position for a tie if not TD to win. Regardless of how bad Buffalo had played both of those plays were major negatives that straight up didn't go our way. 0-3 in one score games a year after going 5-1. Last year remember in the one score wins we did benefit against the Rams on a PI call on 4th down, in interception against the Jets late in that game, and the forced fumble by Zimmer against NE. Football is a game of averages in many respects the breaks we caught last year haven't went our way this year regardless of how well or bad Buffalo has played. The Titans game to me was the Rams all over where the offense did fine, our defense just ran out of gas except this year we ended up on the wrong end. The Jets game last year felt very similar to the Jags except the Jags game we turned the ball over too much taking away points and the two big plays we could've used went against us. If you read this and say "even so they have issues and I have major concerns" that's cool I get that no qualms. If Buffalo won even one of those three games I think fans feel better about the team even if we still lost to Jax. The combo of the three with bad fortune just stinks. To me though Buffalo is due a game and odds are they will get one where instead it goes our way when a part of the team or the entire team isn't having their best day.

I would tend to agree that the o line is not very good this year, but Josh's ability to move and create so many plays mutes at times how rough it really is. I will say the O-Line in 19 and 20 was good, but age and identity/communication REALLY seem to be hitting it hard this year. Diggs the last few games has def been avoiding contact I think his knee got tweaked against TEN but they are not saying anything because he did go to the sidelines with a trainer that game.

If there is actual blood in the water we have a much larger problem on our hands haha

I would like to think after yesterday that the Bills would come in like a team on fire after yesterday and the embarrassment it was. I would also like to think the Jets offense comes down a little after two higher scoring games as bad teams tend to do that after little spurts. BUT it is impossible not to be slightly skeptical as I would've thought after the Dolphins game the Bills would've come out guns blazing and the same after the Titans so IDK. I just can't see them losing but I can see a 21-10 win with fans not satisfied in the least.

Never said can him but it just offers questions that are fair. You only get so many cracks as a team and a coach, if guys start buying out that is not a good sign for his future and this ownership has never had a problem firing people.

Agreed. There are three outcomes which are 1. Bills get their stuff back together and win division 2. Bills make the playoffs but barely and NE wins division 3. miss entirely. I believe its fairly likely it ends outcome 1. , but if it ends up being 2 or 3 I think it is fair to question McD and his long term future.

Hahahahaahahah. Thank you for making me laugh I needed this.

The Pats have some legit tough games, but yea they are there and I wouldn't be stunned if at some point they actually have the lead.

I get the comparison in terms of big success followed by a downer esq season, I just never have bought the following year the team is due to be great then. I actually think they can still turn this around despite the flaws on offense, the biggest thing is they just need to be smarter and more cohesive across the board on offense.

I kid you not on Saturday I was like "heck the Sabres haven't been bad lets give it a whirl" 10 seconds in get scored on and the 1st period was as bad as the last decade. That was all of the Sabres for me that night haha