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Oh yea every year is on the table

Virtually no team is 100% healthy. It is on them to overcome and adjust.

Between the loss today, injuries, an improved division, and Josh looking a bit more mortal 2020 is really starting to feel like the big missed opportunity. Buffalo cruised through any major obstacle outside of the KC game and was incredibly healthy throughout. Josh had maybe one truly bad game otherwise he was superb and would’ve been MVP had Rodgers not been so good. My feeling after today and how the season has gone is the team has far more obstacles then before with a greatly improved division that is no guarantee in the least. The AFC itself being not as strong helps for the playoffs, but unless Josh is playing almost perfect they are not the team we’ve thought unfortunately. Additionally McDermott needs some heat as the only year they have played well after the bye for a stretch of games was 2020. Last years struggles happened the same time, same as 2019 and 2017 (2018 was a waste in general). It’s tiring that the team itself looks so unprepared for a stretch of games after the bye when they should be rested and more focused. To me his hot seat is real if they can’t make it to the SB this year. I’d give him one last year and then change it if he can’t make it go.

Well this aged ***** poorly

They all have to fly planes during the week which limits practice time #daJets

No reason to blitz if your getting pressure and disruption with 4

Bills 31 Jets 13 I tend to not predict blowouts as those are hard to see until they happen but the tea leaves scream disaster in the making as Wilson has been the worst QB in the NFL and after the emotional loss last week to the Patriots this feels like a big let down game in the making for the Jets in the way Buffalo got spanked in 2011 by Dallas after losing the prior week to the Jets in a big emotional show down. I see the Bills jumping out to a 14-3 lead mid 2nd quarter before a Wilson turnover lets the Bills take a big 20-3 lead into half on the back of 2 Allen TD throws. The Jets get the ball out of half and do get a FG to make it 21-6, but the Bills go on a soul crushing 7 minute drive and score a TD with a Cook screen pass to go up 28-6. Buffalo picks Wilson early in the fourth and settle for a FG and the Jets get a garbage TD late for a score not indictive of the game. Allen 24-34 301 3 TDs 32 yds rush Singletary 57 yds 9 carries 1 TD Davis 157 yds 4 recs 1 TD

It is funny with the Pack Adams was almost targeted too much as it caused Rodgers to forget to look at other WRs but I get it because his production was wild. The Raiders for a very bad reason have chosen the inverse of this.

NFL: As we have seen passing attacks fall back this year rushing attacks have come back a little bit as a focal point. For the first time since 2012 four running backs are pacing for a pace of 90 ypg or better (Henry, Chubb, Barkley, Jacobs). Three of those four teams have relatively modest passing attacks (putting it nicely) so the onus has been on moving the ground to gain yards. Henry is on pace for 1800 yds himself which is wild, but the other three are not far behind either. The 2019 Bills were actually the 8th highest rushing team in the NFL that year which certainly helped with Josh's development and it was not all Josh's running either as Singletary and Gore combined for 1374 yards on their own. With the current changes on defense to limit big play attacks and many new young faces at QB trying to find their way I would not be surprised if for the next 2-3 years you see a little more emphasis on dynamic rushing attacks especially with the availability of good running backs outside of the 1st round. AFC: BAL- They are 5-3 but seem to take the difficult route in every game. The second half though they did seem to truly find themselves running the ball and they put up 27 pts. Bateman out hurts as he has been good when in, but maybe they are turning the corner here... maybe. BUF- Second half wasn't great but they struck me as not really carrying as long as they go the win and more toying with GB. Still the 2nd INT while I know Josh says was supposed to be a throw away he needs to put in the stand to get the points. CIN- They failed big time on Monday Night to prove in their first test they can be ok without Chase for a bit. More concerning was Burrow turning into sacks again CLE- At 3-5 they have at MIA, at BUF, TB after the bye. They basically need to go 2-1 to keep any playoff hopes alive, although the defense finally came alive last night which has been missing all year. DEN- Chubb gone weakens what has been a good defense, but the 1st round pick is huge to get back and 4th. Not sure the weekends result does that much for DEN as 3-5 means they basically need to still run a 7-2 record the rest of the way which is tough considering their schedule. HOU- Battle red helmets are coming Thursday when they face PHI and my bet is they push PHI harder then people expect. Still this offense needs a lot of work come the offseason not just at QB but more skill position talent in general. IND- Tough loss at home to Washington ruins an opportunity to get above .500 when the final AFC wildcard spot looks pretty open. Ehlinger was fine, maybe they run him a little the next few weeks. JAX- Trevor Lawrence has shown growth this year but the INT at the goal line is a major no no. The last four games have all been late one score losses, I bet they end up with a few Ws the back half here to reverse that. KC- The Chiefs were on a bye this week so here is a fun stat. Travis Kelce is 10th in receiving yards despite being a TE and playing one less game. The dude is a beast and to me the real difference in the KC offense. LAC- Also on a bye which gives the Chargers some needed time to rest up. They start off the be on the road back to back ATL/SF before hosting the Chiefs the following week. Splitting that road split is a must for their playoff and slim division hopes. MIA- Chubb is a nice addition to their D that will allow them to send less men on rushes, but their offensive line is still an issue that is not fixed. NE- The Pats won basically because Zach Wilson couldn’t stop turning the ball over. The Jets sacked Jones 6 times and outgained NE 387-288. The media can try and prop up the Pats as a thing but the underlying numbers are not nearly as generous. NYJ- Honestly this is a quasi 2014 Bills team in 2022. Good defense, some WRs, and at points they can run the ball with a struggling young QB. Patience is small these days with rookie QBs as is, but Wilson has done nothing this year to show he has made even a small stride of growth. PIT- Claypool is gone but they got a 2nd to use this year as the Steelers quietly admit it’s a rebuild. Talent is needed across the board as even when JJ Watt returns they do not have enough horses in many areas. RAIDERS- Derek Carr should start packing his stuff up for a new location next year. No way the Raiders do not go for a young QB in next years draft. TEN- Tight win again but it was a 5th straight. I mentioned Derrick Henry is on an insane pace again, but take a look at Denico Autry who has 5 sacks for the Titans whose front four has been big in setting the tone. NFC ARZ- The offense got to form on Sunday but their defense is so leaky across the board and got exposed badly. The turnovers are not coming for the defense like last year to bail them out and against the pass they are bottom 10 in the league. Time is running out to stay alive in the NFC playoff race. ATL- They are 1st in the NFC South like everyone thought, but the key to their success is a rushing attack which is running at a clip of nearly 160 yards per game. CAR- The NFL is a killer in things that ruin the game. DJ Moore makes a 60 yard TD catch maybe the best he ever has and in celebration takes off his helmet. Didn’t throw it or anything just pure excitement… 15 yard penalty. Say what you want about the rules but this was pathetic and made chip shot finish into an actually tough kick that was missed. CHI- Claypool should give Fields a needed target with hands, but just let the kid keep running and making plays. He is starting to look like the best QB from the 21 draft, has a little Allen vibes with his play making. DAL- 29 points allowed is no Bueno, but the offense is awakening and they need to keep feeding Pollard. DET- Another loss because they are the Lions as they blew a big lead at home. Trading Hock is worse though and how bad teams stay bad. You traded a core piece that would’ve helped next years rookie QB for draft picks that you don’t hit on regularly. GB- Another loss and too little too late on offense. More and more Rodgers probably regrets not retiring or leaving and the Packers missed the opportunity to start fresh faster. LAR- They can’t make a trade because they have mortgaged too much in prior years so their roster drifts painfully with holes all over that are not being lifted by their big names. MIN- 6-1 and rolling, but I honestly do not think anyone truly buys them as a true contender because of Cousins. The guy just feels like such a paper tiger and has so little done to prove otherwise. NOLA- 3-5 the division is not that far away as after the Ravens Monday they are at PIT and then host the Rams. If they have any hope of keeping a season alive they need to win two of three. NYG- Barkley was held in check on 20 runs for just 53 yards on the day and the Giants offense stalled because of it. Still they should be ok for the wildcard at this point. PHI- This is why when AJ Brown was traded everyone was confused for the Titans. He is a game changing WR who has helped elevate Hurts and the entire offense to a different place. SEA- Don’t look now but the Seahawks lead the NFC West and the defense is starting to come together allowing a total of 45 pts in the last three weeks after allowing 147 pts in the prior 5 weeks. SF- C Mac looked to bring out the best in Jimmy G and if they can stay around that level they may be the toughest out come playoff time in the NFC. TB- It feels like it is ok to say that maybe they will not turn it around despite having Brady at QB who has regressed some. Say what you want about the defense but they have still only allowed 151 pts which is around 19 a game. If the offense can ever get itself together they actually might be pretty decent. WSH- Rivera has them playing hard and they seem to like playing for Taylor Heinicke. Still with MIN and at PHI back to back reality may sink in soon that they are just not good enough.

Pretty sure after the 2nd loss in a row the fans would just burn the area down for good to end it all

Question because I have a tortured mind: Win this year.. OR Lose four in a row.... the win eight in a row to get back to .500 I'll hang up and listen

Figured this would happen as Pack had some running success. In the end the Pack scored a grand total of 17 pts. Buffalo essentially said fine run on us but your not passing. I don't disagree there is some tightening up needed which is probably the result of a bye week as Buffalo has been pretty good this year against the run. But when the other team is stuck to 17 pts and generally can't do a ton I could really care less about how effective their run is. As for the Jets Buffalo is going to load the box all day, Wilson is a mess right now and his offense knows it. Hall is out and their best offensive lineman is out so they are going to have issues. Honestly I would expect a few turnovers and a lot of sacks.

The expectations for the next decade and the prior 2 years should always be SB or bust. That does not mean you cannot enjoy the season to the max or say it was awesome if they fall short. 2020 was a blast despite the result, 21 had some good moments, and this year has been a thrill since opening night. But fundamentally you have one of the top 2 players in the sport with a talented roster and good mgmt, the expectation should be SB or less. That does not mean I actually think they will make and win 12 SBs in a row more so that is the potential of this group. Cheers

Games really are not flexed super often. I get fans look into this more seriously, but of all the good Bills seasons recently only the Steelers 19 game and Jets last year have been moved.

Wrong Thread lol

You should've raised the bar and peed on them

I had my big ditch make me want to stout beer

100%. I remember thinking Chiefs game gives us the space we need as the game at MIA who was playing better and we played TNF is never easy (home team wins like 70% of the time). That Bryce Brown fumble hurt but the Charles TD into the McKelvin fumble was the killing stretch. Listening to it on the radio you could feel things get tight on the TD and you knew once McKelvin fumbled that was it. That was maybe the most frustrated I was after a game in the drought days as you knew it had a major impact and we were not good enough to overcome that type of loss. I agree Oakland was a bummer, but the D was spent and also banged up by the end of the game.

Looking back on the ticket cost its wild the difference now. I think we paid $75 a ticket too.

Ortons slide the week prior a yard short of the 1st down line almost made me break my TV. Thankfully Josh just runs through people now.

That is actually really awesome

That's amazing. Ironically I actually have a picture of the stadium autographed by the entire 2014 Bills squad I got that day which is also hanging somewhere in my house.

With Sundays game approaching against the Pack and the first home game vs GB since 2014 it brought me back to that Sunday 8 years ago, what it is like as I attended, and how far we have come since then: The 2014 season was a wild and I mean wild year. Ralph died, Jim got cancer, Andre went to the Hall, Jim beat cancer, and the Pegula's became the front runners and eventual new owners basically all before the season started. The team itself lost Kiko for the season due to his knee, added Sammy, and there was some optimism for a better season as the defense had shown some teeth the year prior and EJ had flashed some potential. Well fast forward to the GB game the Bills were "in the hunt" although in a better way then normal at 7-6 with a great defense and better then normal outside chance to get the wild card. The offense has transitioned as EJ failed out for Kyle Orton who sometimes could do some things in the passing game. The running game wasn't great as Spiller was out for the year at this point so it fell on Freddie who was injuried at times and Bryce Brown. On the flipside this was probably the second best Packers team over the last decade (2011 15-1 tops) as they were leading the league in scoring as Rodgers won MVP and was loaded in skill players. The defense was stout enough and Micah Hyde had 221 yds in punt return yards (MICAH!). The Bills actually limited Peyton Manning's Broncos the week prior to just 24 pts the week prior, but I distinctly remembered heading into that week that no one gave Buffalo much of a chance. Additionally Buffalo had not played meaningful late season game since 2007 against CLE so it was a foreign feeling to have any emotion in a game this late in the year let alone maybe have a playoff shot. For us drought kids (34 now) this was like the first real time as an adult to have a Bills team be remotely competitive so it meant something regardless of how small that something was. Still it was kind of like hopefully Buffalo is competitive and will see Rodgers at the height of his powers which is neat. I went to the game and we sat section 223 I believe. It was the first time I ever felt at the stadium that energy people talk of when something cool or good maybe happens. My father said during the 80s and 90s when the team started to rise and was good you could tell it had a different feel in the crowd. By this point I had been to enough games to understand the difference and my brother in law who saw the 34-31 upset of the Pats in 2011 said it felt like that day. For a wintery type day the weather actually wasn't too bad. The game itself felt like something out of a movie as things started going Buffalo's way forcing GB to punt and then holding the Packers to a FG. You could tell the crowd really started to buy in that this could be a day on Marcus Thigpens 75 yd punt return and the place was bedlam when that happened. The second half went Buffalo's way as Rodgers got picked twice by Bacarri Rambo with the second INT killing a 12 play Packer drive that was going to at least put the Pack within 3 or allow them a 1pt lead. Instead Buffalo then scored a FG to go up 19-10 and put the screws to GB mid 4th quarter. One thing that is not talked about enough despite how well the Bills D played it the Jordy Nelson dropped deep pass. On the drive which Rambo got his second INT Rodgers found Jordy Nelson deep dead to rights which probably would've been a TD... but he dropped the ball. If ever there was a sign things were going Buffalo's way that was it. Still as Bills fans how many times during that past decade and half had we lost in games to good teams late despite everything seemingly go our way. I think that is why on the final Packer possession it was so loud and out of control until the fumble/safety finally happened to ice the game. At the time that was loudest I can remember the stadium when Mario Williams force fumbled Rodgers to clinch the win. Also Mario Williams was a beast all day, in general I consider him more of a success and have good thoughts then bad. You could feel the relief exude in the stadium that the upset had been pulled and the parking lot after had more people stay to celebrate then I could remember in my time going. Of course the Bills flopped the following week to kill their playoff dreams, but it was a fun season compared to the prior 10 years. Looking back on how everything has changed to now it is really wild. The Bills offense was honesty not very good then and didn't deserve to win, yet now we run a juggernaut and have a god at QB. I don't take that for granted. The hype and excitement leading to that game/annoyance we were not primetime has given way to regularly being in the national spot light and the hype just always being at mach 5. If you told most fans in the stadium that day where things would stand this coming Sunday jaws would drop for all of these things. The fact Rodgers never made it back to SB also is pretty wild as watching him at that point the guy was so damn good. That game to me though has always been the demarcation point of the Bills finally emerging from the wilderness in the national landscape. Subsequent years the team gained attention prominently Rex/Shady etc.., broke the drought in 2017, and then all the good stuff since Josh came. But for me that was the first snowball that helped to slowly create the massive run roiling today and was a really cool moment in time.

So I will comment on what I can and with insight of what my parents and family saw as I am 34. I remember or started focusing on the Bills mid 90s as a kid and the 1998-99 teams really stick out to me as the entire area is wild about the QB controversy. You really couldn't go anywhere with that being a thing and the 99 team everybody said had SB potential with the defense if the offense could do enough. I remember that Bills stuff was everywhere and when the game was on everything shutdown there was no streaming the game. Additionally because blackouts were a big deal and we had a pretty large stadium it was actually semi normal to listen to the game regularly as some of the games which were dogs def were not on TV. My dad has said the excitement and energy now or going back to 2020 on is equivalent if not more wild in many ways. The big difference is Josh Allen is essentially the face of the league and Kelly / no one else back them could make quiet that claim. One thing he has said is the games in terms of apparel are much more commercialized. People would wear Bills hats or beanies, some had clothing, but todays stadium virtually everyone is head to toes bills stuff, that wasn't the case in the 90s. My family also said in the 90s Buffalo was a city in harsh transition as the steel industry and a lot of manufacturing had collapsed years prior and things had not stabilized. Additionally Buffalo became a punch line because of the blizzard of 77 so there was a real chip on peoples shoulder nationally because of this and the Bills being good was in a sense an identity thing that we are good in something and you can't do anything about it. Take a look at the 1980 season and the "talking proud" campaign the Bills embraced with the city (the song is atrocious but whatever it was the 80s). The city of Buffalo by no means is perfect now, but the population and area has stabilized with small growth and the city has some things going for it. People still use the Bills as a big part of the identity but I would attest it is different compared to the areas feelings back then. Concluding my thesis (haha) I think the ability now to consume the Bills in so many ways and how it is broadcast as a sport with the NFL is magnified to make things much bigger and because of Josh especially it is bigger. Josh Allen is a legitimate person in the scope of the US media and popularity and how the league markets him allows him a greater window then before. With blackouts gone and the ability to watch games in replay or real time people can do things for the team you couldn't in the past. In 2021 my wife and I did our Bills party we host yearly in August due to my son being born in Sept. We replayed the Bills Dallas game in crystal clear 1080 outside in the back yard. My brother in law to test for opening night against the Rams had us over and we rewatched Bills games outdoors Labor day weekend. Outside of VHS recording and a heck of an electronics setup you just couldn't do many of these things. The social media piece is also wild in how we connect to players and some of the best things as a fanbase we have done for charity root in social media allowing a mass message to go quickly. The NFL has went from a August - January league to a year wide thing and even out of season the advertising and events never stop. With the Bills being so good right now and having Josh you get to be part of everything in a higher bigger way then before. It is legitimately awesome and something I never thought I would see during the drought.

HOLYFIELD!