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Agreed. I'm seeing a 40 burger on Sunday.

I'll always appreciate this. I remember during the drought when we were on the other side of it almost every week.

Good to see you again, @PatsFanNH! Seems like it's been awhile since you posted here....

Hopefully he just slept on it wrong.

Just saw a Pats fan say that there is no way they would trade Maye for Allen. That's....well, that's somethin'.

Has Maye "torched" anyone yet this year? He's had some decent games, but that seems hyperbolic. He's nowhere near Lamar or Mahomes or some of the other QB's we have to face.

One thing I noticed watching highlights of the Panthers/Pats game was how clean Maye's pocket was on the big throws he made. Really, no pressure. Getting pressure on him is key. He has all of the skills, but he makes mistakes and his accuracy goes way down when he has less time. I'm sure we'll do better than Carolina w/ that. The Pats have a pretty middlin' run game, so if we can pressure Maye and limit their big special teams plays, this could be a more comfortable win than most of us seem to think.

I have really looked forward to seeing that from Bills fans about Patriots fans.

Fans are usually like that, but they're at the next level. And the recurring theme is that once they "complete the rebuild," they're re-take their rightful place atop the division moving forward. As though while the Bills have Josh Allen, they'll be no challenge. Too much success can delude a fanbase at a concerning level.

It's easier than Schlittler for any Yankees fans here.

I kind of like the uni's. After seeing some of the hideous throwback colors on some other teams, they look like they're from the future or something. I always wonder if certain colors are easier to see for the QB when he's looking downfield for a receiver. Seems like if there anything to that, these would stand out a bit.

Remember when we had Schwarz? THAT was a defense.

No - they'll be there. The AFC is not strong. They're still a great team.

I get that it's a division game, but I'm starting to think the Pats hype is a bit out of hand - both here & nationally. It just seems like a lot of that is based on scoring 42 last week. And some thought the Panthers had turned a corner because of their previous week. But that's a bad team. I watched the highlights - it almost looked like they hadn't practiced this year. The special teams play was abysmal, and Young didn't look like a pro QB. The Pats lost to Pittsburgh & the Raiders. If a guy doesn't step out of bounds by an inch or so, they would have lost to Miami. We're a mile better than them, we're at home, we usually play great in primetime, and we're coming off of a somewhat lackluster effort which should be motivating. I still think the jury is out on Maye. He plays great when the line protects him. Any team that can get pressure on him can cause turnovers, and I think our line will keep great pressure on him all day. Their O-line is weak in a few spots.

You know what? I still hate the New England Patriots.

All I'd say is this: During the drought, I felt like we always ended up on the wrong end of the officiating. PARTICULARLY against top teams like the Pats. Those games were often comical w/ the PI's & roughing calls against us. Now? I kind of figuratively blush at some of the calls we get, especially Allen & PF's.

I was worried when I saw how much the Pats scored on Sunday. But I just checked the game stats, and it wasn't like they were running all over the field. Pretty modest offensive #'s for 42 points. Looks like they really benefitted from some huge special teams plays and great field position, and an inept Carolina team. They lost to the Raiders and Steelers, and pulled it out against Miami in the final minutes. My take is that this is still an average team. It's also a much-improved division rival playing in the biggest game they've had in quite awhile, so I'm not taking them lightly. But we should win this one at home if we take care of the ball.

Cincy is really poorly constructed. No O-line, no defense, and 2 superstar receivers.

I don't know how anyone can hate the Jets. That team is a bottomless pit of misery for that fanbase, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Everybody eats here. We just need everybody to get open more.

Rapp is a backup. We should have picked up Peppers, imo.

Are Ed and Milano definitely back for the Pats? Any chance we see Hairston?

But do you pick a guy who isn't quite the guy you want just to keep that guy from landing w/ a rival?

Well, looking at our own game against the Ravens - wouldn't you say Coleman gave us as big of a spark? He was outstanding in that game.

Vrabel has always preferred this approach. I hope we don't defer if we win the toss. Best way to set the tone in this game is a long scoring drive to start it off & make them play catch-up.