Royale with Cheese
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Yeah I'm listening to it. He's always been pretty high on Taylor.
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1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:
I see other teams adapt and get better. NE is the best example. I can't tell you how many times their defense has come out flat to start a season and yet every year they finish top ten in keeping the other team from scoring. I want that. They run or pass completely based on what the other team is doing. We run the same stupid offense no matter what. At least last year and the year before we ran the same stupid offense no matter what but it worked most of the time. I am worried this offense just isn't going to work regardless of QB. If Taylor and then Peterman isn't working, then we draft some "franchise" QB and throw him to Dennison and that doesn't work we are really creating a huge void and dedicating seasons and resources to a problem that may always be coaching.
It's easy to use NE as an example because they have the greatest QB of all time. Everything is easier and deficiencies are masked when you have that guy under center.
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17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Yea it was sarcasm.
Noted.
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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:
They gave some similar traits (mobility and athleticism) but Jackson is much more of an advanced passer, especially this year.
Yep...which is why he's a first rounder and not 6th.
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3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
No, he's talking about race. Trust me. I'm reasonably familiar with Schatz's work. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, so don't shoot the messenger.
I guess we agree to disagree.
They both have the same issues throwing from the pocket. With the production and Jackson puts up, he should be the #1 overall pick but he's not even being considered that.
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1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:
No. I'll be blunt: he is saying that a lot of NFL fans are straight-up racists when it comes to the QB position. I'm not going to pass judgment one way or another on his views, but that is what he is saying. It's pretty clear.
I think it has to do with their style of play and race has nothing to do with it.
Lamar Jackson, just like Taylor, has problems throwing from the pocket.
Tasker is on WGR and stated that with disciplined defenses that will keep Taylor in the pocket, you essentially can't do anything on offense.
Tyrod's inability to throw with any kind of consistency in the pocket really limited this offense.
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Just now, ScottLaw said:
Definitely a raw deal.
He had one absolute stinker and gets the hook.
Really questionable talent evaluators at OBD. Flame away.
He's had more than one stinker this year and the previous two.
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Just now, PABillsfan23 said:
Teams have been shutting that down.. gotta be able to throw from the pocket in this league.
Defenses didn't bite on the play action because they didn't care if we threw the ball..
When we rolled out, they just attacked Taylor.
Nothing was working.
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
Look I want the top QB overall and you're not going to stop me from getting it.
I'm willing to give Peterman a chance. He was my one my favorites coming out this past draft and I would have been okay with drafting in the 2nd or 3rd....I'm a little bias.
But I'm also not expecting anything other than see him play. I hope he's very good but not going to hitch my wagons to him just yet.
I'm excited to see what he can do but also not watching Taylor anymore. I hated seeing our offense so one dimensional and not even having a adequate passing game.
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7 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:
Why is marketing even being brought up? The Bills offense is putrid. Something needs to change and it has. Will it work? Who knows but sometimes making a bad decision is still trying different options.
Exactly.
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3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Because that was the rationale that wasted three seasons on Taylor. The Bills don't have the luxury of developing a marginal guy and hoping for a miracle, they desperately need a blue chipper to build around. I have nothing against Peterman, he hasn't thrown a professional pass yet, but you cannot keep hoping and praying on backups and 5th rounders while giving each new staff 3 years to turn the Bills into a contender. This franchise just doesn't have the talent, time, or resources to do anything BUT take a flier on a top guy, especially now that it's pretty clear there are going to be major changes in the offseason.
It's not relying on hope and prayer. If Peterman plays very well, I say we stick with him. If he doesn't, you draft a guy high. If he plays okay, you draft a QB high.
If the draft were today, I take a QB high.
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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
I think that's about as bad an idea as I've heard in a long, long time.
DO NOT bank on Peterman being anything more than a backup. Unless he carries us to the Super Bowl this year, FTLOG draft a QB high in 2018.
Why cant we just see how this plays out first?
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33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
I just used him as a name. Dont settle get another QB early in draft
If Peterman plays very well, I want to stick with Peterman.
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His benching last year was unfair but this year it was warranted.
He took both of them like a pro.
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8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Point no matter what Peterman does this year what does it hurt if your take Rudolph? With one of your firsts????
Because if you feel as a coaching staff Peterman is your man gong forward, you don’t waste a draft pick.
And me me personally I don’t want Rudolph.
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2 minutes ago, timekills17 said:
You realize Peterman is a whopping one inch taller than Tyrod.
I agree with your comments about a faster release and Tyrod's lack of anticipation/reluctance to throw to an "NFL open" receiver, but it isn't going to be better with Peterman because of the height difference.
Tyrod is listed at 6”1 but he’s not 6”1.
I’ve seen him standing next to Sammy Watkins in the past who is 6”2 and Tyrod was more than an inch taller.
i also know someone who met Taylor once and said they were eye to eye....he’s 5”11.
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1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:
Better than 5-4 with this roster? They should be 4-5 given the Atlanta giveaway by the refs.
If you want to play the “should be” game then we can also say we should have beaten Cincy and Carolina if we didn’t have atrocious QB play.
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11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Yep unless he AVGs 300 a game >70% and a 2 to 1 TD ratio or better yep nothing should change.
Whats the success rate of 5th round QBs for long term top end Careers?
Not very high. But you still wait for it to play out. They know him better than you and I know.
Whats the success rate of QB’s drafted out of Oklahoma? Would pass up on a Mayfield because of history?
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Just now, MAJBobby said:
He is a Rookie with no tape on him. He shoukd have some really have some nice games.
But dont change your Plans. There is NOTHING wrong with having two Young QBs on your roster.
If you settle yet again and push the other needs button they are no different than any other regime. Take a QB early in 2018 (talking first or second at latest)
So in your opinion, it doesn’t matter what Peterman does. He could explode and take us deep into the playoffs and that won’t matter? Is it really hard to just see how things play out first?
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It’s up to Peterman. If the defense focuses on stoping the run and dare him to beat them with his arm, well Peterman has to make them pay. Then we become a balanced attack and can’t focus on one aspect.
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Just now, MAJBobby said:
You still take your early QB. Then let them compete. DO NOT CHANGE your plan.
Get a QB high in 2018 or you are going to fall into the Edwards and Fitz trap
If Peterman goes on a tear and feel very good with him, I’m okay with drafting other needs high.
Fitz and Edwards were his not QB’s. We are looking to see what we have in Peterman. He’s inheriting a team that’s currently in the playoffs so we will get a good evaluation.
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Just now, MAJBobby said:
If this Regime sits in their hands and goes with Peterman in 2018 and not draft one early they are no different than any other Bills regime and are idiots
Only if Peterman doesn’t show anything.
If he goes on a tear, then you would go with him in “18.
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19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
I'm sure someone else must have said this, but here goes:
The players are the same as last season. The offense was good last season. The only thing that changed was coaches and the system. Explain again why the problem is the players not the coaches and the system.
When the system changes the players need to change and that may be what's good about the Peterman move. But the system didn't have to change.
It doesn’t matter what system it is if defenses keep Taylor in the pocket.
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McDermott “Just kidding”
Nfl.com: Potential landing spots for Tyrod Taylor
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I think Arizona would be a good spot for him because Arians like to go vertical. Every route he has, at least one guy is running deep.