Royale with Cheese
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2 minutes ago, ProcessTheTrust said:
Let's hope KC keeps struggling, the Chargers take the West, and the Chiefs end up giving us a higher pick than we expected after that hot start.
The Chiefs are playing as bad of football as you can play. They are playing every bit as bad as the Browns and Giants....who they lost to.
What if we end up getting a top 8 pick now?
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2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
Well I hope they get those losses rolling starting tonight haha
Who knows what to expect about the Texans.
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Jeffismagic? Was he fuming as well?
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I wonder if Gillisee will be active this game.
1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:Sure but if we beat Miami twice and the Colts while losing both to the Pats then Baltimore needs to lose 3 I think.
I think you're right but I think 3 is a strong possibility.....especially since their offense is pretty bad.
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Just now, grb said:
Uh huh. And years '15 & '16 other teams never caught on the Bills were a run-first team? They never realized how uniquely bad Taylor is passing? Only this year did the light bulb over their heads flash-on and suddenly they realized the Bills are a run-first team. Well, it's a theory I guess.........
Also : You want to prove Taylor is sooooo bad, the fact that he's had an abysmal offense to work-with is irrelevant.
But, two problems :
(1) However well Cam did or didn't do without this receiver or that, quarterback performance in the NFL regularly rises and falls with the strength of a OBs supporting cast. For every "Cam" (if you can even find more than one), there are countless counter-examples refuting your point. One on ready hand is the current feel-good story of Case Keenum. No doubt he got "a year of film" on the rest of the league - and that's the reason he's been able to up his game so much, right? It's kind of hilarious to see posters here drooling over Keenum coming to the Bills. Switch out Case & Tyrod's situation and I bet Taylor over-performs and Keenum suffers. What do you think?
(2) The fact is Taylor has performed very well with good - not elite - talent. Here are the numbers again : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 INTs. Unfortunately, injuries restricted his time playing with both Watkins and Woods to fifteen games over two years.
We have been bottom of the league in passing for 3 years.
His raw stats look good because he makes safe throws.
I never said Taylor was sooooooooooooo bad.
It's not just this year, he's trending down.
Multiple teams have said what about Taylor? Make him play QB is how you defend him. That's just 3 that said it to the media, we know it's obviously the game plan.
Why do you think teams say keep him in the pocket? Is it maybe, just maybe, they feel he's not strong throwing with in the pocket?
At your #2, the fact Taylor has performed very well with good, not elite talent. If he's cut this year and hits the open market, I'm assuming he will get a very nice contract? Maybe top 5? I mean, what team wouldn't want a QB who can perform very well with good talent?
We've had two different regimes who aren't committing to him long term and both put walk out clauses in the contract. In fact, he had to take a pay cut just what, 7 months after signing the original extension? How often does that happen to a QB who just signed a multi year extension? Does that not speak volumes to you?
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Just now, PromoTheRobot said:
He absolutely does. He's just very passive-aggressive about it.
I listen to WGR every morning and just listened to his last segment.
He's like most people, doesn't think at all he's a long term answer. He said it this morning. He just think he's limited but does say he's overall right around average but would like to do better.
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3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
The ball was at his stomach not the ground. He didn't need to go to the ground to catch it. Placement could have been better but it is what it is. Look around the league and see that no QB throws 100% perfectly placed balls. Some look perfectly placed because people don't analyze QBs to death like they do Tyrod.
I don't see the point of these threads. Pretty much everyone has come to terms that Tyrod is not the long term answer. It seems pretty obvious the new staff will be going after a QB in the next draft. There is nothing left to prove about Tyrod. He is what he is. There may be a few fanatics that still believe. There are also a few that act like he is worse than he really is.
Nothing else really needs to be discussed.
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17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Jeremy White hates Tyrod.
No he doesn't.
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1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:
Ya that game was so crushing. Especially after smoking the Colts a week earlier
After the first 8 minutes of that game, I thought to myself "we may be legit".
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Rex's 2nd game.
I believe the Pats took the field first, 3 and out. We got the ball, marched downfield and scored a TD.
Then it was just horrible after that.
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I think Milano needs to play a lot more.
I think Yarborough got the start of over Shaq but since they are heavy rotation....I'm not sure if it matters.
Dawkins is looking good.
Jones mental block seems to have disappeared.
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5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
In every game you can probably find 10-15 missed plays and open receivers....... That's a given. Don't need game film watching yesterday with my 2 eyes.
The OC put him in bad positions as he does most games and when they were in favorable positions it was usually a draw that didn't get the first down......
Go to the play by play and read for yourself.......
I guess you think you're the greatest broadcast viewing fan ever. Don't need game film, just the broadcast view. I also don't trust your eyes at all because you have admitted you're petty so everything you say is 100% bias and hypocritical.
The bolded is a complete BS statement.
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2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
What did Taylor miss yesterday......... Waiting 2 hours for an answer.
How many of us have game film less than 24 hours after a game?
So since no one has access to it on a message board, in your mind that means he didn't miss anything?
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3 minutes ago, Marty McFly said:
Since its a point about the QB leading this roster to points, you have to drop the ej manuel game vs the jets and then it shows we are top 10. Somesht like that. Meh
5 passes?? Wow. Wtf Dennison.
Got it.
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Just now, bigduke6 said:
the only reason Taylor would want to stay is, nobody else in the NFL will give him a shot at starting. He took a pay cut last year to stay with this team, his agent knows the landscape, u dont do that if you have better options elsewhere. this is Taylors only shot at playing. and its coming to an end.
There's always Cleveland.
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2 minutes ago, teef said:
i completely support tyrod, but am not a big fan if that makes any sense. he does some things well, but i'll be furious if he's in the long term plans as qb. if he's here next year while qbs develop, i'm more than good with that.
I agree with this.
Although I'm not sure why Taylor would want to stay. Benching 2 years in a row and showing obvious signs they aren't viewing him as a long term answer.
It took McDermott until Wednesday to name him starter after Peterman had 5 first half INT's. McDermott was still deciding after on which QB after that disaster.
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Just now, Wayne Arnold said:
15th in score percentage.
This season? 16th.
So not top 7 right?
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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:
On what planet were the Bills Top 7 in scoring last season?
they were #10.
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Defense needs to play lights out and like they did earlier in the year.
If it leads to a shoot out, Tyrod needs to step up big time. We won't be able to run the ball and keep up with them. Taylor needs to be on fire and I'm really hoping that happens.
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4 minutes ago, grb said:
Or let's say Dak was our quarterback. Check out how he's currently affected by a slight drop in talent, even though he's still got a way-better supporting cast than Taylor. Switch situations, Dak & Tyrod, and I wonder what would result? One clue would be to look at the fifteen games these past two seasons when Taylor had both Watkins and Woods playing.
The numbers : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 INTs
Pretty good, huh? The 8.25 number is pretty exceptional even without ...... wait for it ..... YAC !! That was the result the one time Taylor had a true pair of NFL grade receivers to throw to. This year? No number-one (traded away). A bunch of number-twos / slot receivers who have divided their time between being injured and (first half of the season) being a head case. LeSean McCoy is a wonder, but he's running behind a line which resulted in a 9yd game (Panthers), 21yd game (Broncos), 25yd game (Jets), 49yd game (Saints & KC).
Speaking of the O-line, I really wonder how Carson or Wentz are going to handle playing behind them in our hypothetical scenario. Do doubt their play won't be affected at all, right?
Or could it be Dak has a year of film and has been figured out a little more? is that not a possibility?
Can we take a look at Cam Newton in 2015. His leading WR was Ted Ginn after Benjamin went down? How bad was their offense affected without a true #1 WR? Lead the league in scoring?
His one game with Benjamin, a true #1, he had 56 yards passing and did not throw to him outside of the first drive. Deonte Thompson in 4 days can have a big impact but Benjamin can't after 10 days?
You don't think the defenses focusing on McCoy has anything to do with it? Keep Taylor in the pocket and focusing on stopping McCoy is the game plan against us.
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Just now, ScottLaw said:
Last year, not this year. Last year.
What has changed between this year and last year?
Well then lets take a look at last year.
New England ran about as much as the Bills and weren't bottom of the league in passing and scored a lot.
Atlanta ran just a little less than the Bills (4 less attempts) and weren't bottom of the league in passing and scored a lot.
Pittsburgh ran just a little less than the Bills (4 less attempts) and weren't bottom of the league in passing.
Seattle was in the middle with both.
Oakland was top 15 in both.
In fact, Indy last year threw the ball .8 less than the Bills per game. We were 30th in passing, they were 6th. Cincy threw less than us last year, 31st in passing attempts but were 15th in total yards.
Problem is we are one dimensional. How many teams now have said "make Tyrod play QB" is the way to beat them? What does that mean to you?
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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:
Again, Top 7 in scoring.... WHEN YOU RUN THE BALL SO WELL AND SO MUCH AND SCORE POINTS DOING IT YOUR PASSING OFFENSE IS GOING TO BE RANKED LOW.
Common sense.??
Common sense?
The Eagles currently runs the ball more than the Bills. Their passing offense isn't ranked low and scores more than the Bills.
Minnesota currently runs the ball more than the Bills. Their passing offense isn't ranked low and scores more than the Bills.
The Rams currently runs the ball as much as the Bills. Their passing offense isn't ranked low and scores more than the Bills.
The Saints currently runs the ball as much as the Bills. Their passing offense isn't ranked low and scores more than the Bills.
The Steelers currently runs the ball as much as the Bills. Their passing offense isn't ranked low and scores more than the Bills.
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Just now, TheTruthHurts said:
This is an accuracy thing. He doesn't miss those throws often. What he doesn't do is throw a wr open with anticipation and accuracy.
Yes I agree with your second part 100% but he also misses a lot of wide open WR. He leaves a lot of plays on the field and it's shown on film all the time.
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Just now, Billsfan1972 said:
Goff missed Watkins by 5 yards and was intercepted if you want to go to that thread...... But yep call me a hypocrite if it makes you happy.
Not every ball is thrown perfectly, but it was a completion and an easy catch and positive yards. When they are bad passes that miss an open receiver and cost significant years that's a huge issue.
You are a hypocrite and an extreme one as well. You'll criticize every completion by Goff because it wasn't "perfectly thrown" but it's fine with Taylor. Not every ball needs to be thrown perfectly for Taylor but it has to be for Goff. Remember you admitting how petty you are?
You point out one pass by Goff? Wow.
Taylor has never missed a throw right?
KC Fans Fuming After Loss
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The Chiefs have lost 4 of their last 6 averaging 18 points per game.
In the losses, 12 points per game. Pretty bad football.
Yes the Browns are playing worse and have been worse but if they play each other right now....I'm not sure who wins.