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BADOL with historically bad takes in this thread. Yikes.
Why do people say Tyrod is 3-2 like hes been carrying this team?
Yeah it's embarrassing.
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Taylor started for 4 seasons in a pro-style passing offense and had authority to audible at the LOS and made the line calls that are usually reserved for the center even in the NFL.
Crouch was simply an option QB.
Apples/Oranges.
Yours is an example of what looks like a very racist perspective but is probably just you being football dumb and too lazy to research a point you extracted from your backside.
LOL...
Taylor had a 57% completion percentage in college!
Harbaugh tried to make him a corner. I guess Harbaugh is racist.
Baldo calling someone football dumb. The guy with the lowest football IQ on this board LOL.
I haven't seen one good argument against my points from anyone whose perspective on this board I respect......certainly not an idiot like you........and including jmc12290 who is usually my personal ballwasher.
That's because you're not smart enough to know when a good point is made against you.
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Whoa, racial bitterness much?
Bad look.
The bottom line is Tyrod is right.......he is held to a higher standard and race is a factor......he's used it as motivation.
I hope he gets replaced by an Aaron Rodgers type soon but I don't blame him for not being able to put up 24 ppg without talent around him.
I've seen him lead one of the better offenses in the league despite one of the worst WR corps most weeks in 2016.........but the garbage they have now is on an entirely different level.
Worst Bills WR corps ever........possibly the worst in the NFL in two decades.
Another QB is Chris Rix. The only 4 year starter under Bowden at FSU. Won 4 bowl games. Ranks at the top of FSU production records but went undrafted. Undrafted.
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You didn't answer the question:
So a white QB with Taylor's arm, athleticism, character, production, experience in a pro-style system and the intelligence to both audible at the LOS AND make the line calls for VA Tech wouldn't get taken until the 6th round?
When you were a white QB teams would be inclined to look for reasons to select you........hence Jake Locker........while when a black QB teams would look for reasons they shouldn't.
That's the nature of bias we are talking about.........not race hate.
Things have changed some since 2011 and players like Wilson and Taylor are why..........the black QB bias is not what it was even then so be careful not to look at it thru the lens of today.
Eric Crouch the QB at Nebraska wasn't even drafted to play QB in the NFL. He was drafted to play safety just like the Ravens tried to make Taylor a corner.
Even though they were both great college QB's, they knew they would struggle adapting to passing in the NFL.
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Good post. I'm not thrilled about his comments in any way; i'm not thrilled b/c I feel we don't need an article like this creating a distraction for the team in any way.
As to how TT feels personally, no one here is in a position to say he's "wrong" since you have walked a day in his shoes, from his childhood in Virginia until now.
I like TT as a person. I would let him babysit my son.
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I think if people actually reread TT's entire interview (the original article); and then go read through the posts on this thread and this site in general, TT's comments about fans being bipolar and hateful are pretty accurate.
There are a dozen or so posters in this forum who do absolutely nothing but rip TT apart on a daily basis; no matter if there are 5 threads already open discussing the same nonsense, they'll open another just to perpetuate the nonsense. These posters make this site intolerable at times. As I speak, another thread was just created on Tyrod.
To continue that level of hate towards a single player takes energy. It takes dedication. It goes beyond just being a fan; it's almost personal. Why?
This is a fan base that ripped Jim Kelly a HOF QB when he struggled at times at the end of his career. Todd Collins came in spot duty and had a good game or two. The next game Jim struggled in, he was booed. There was actually a sign in the stands that said "Jim who?".
I'm not going to be angry at Tyrods comments but I do think it's a little stupid. It's not his race, it's his play.
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He's held to a higher standard for a number of reasons and the key underlying factor is race.
He was a later pick because he was black..........he was discounted entirely as an option by most teams in FA because he was seen as gimmick "athletic"(black) QB.
Those teams were wrong.
Now that he is here, color is a factor for some..........but even for those who it is NOT......their opinions of him are impacted by his low pedigree.........which is very much related to race.
I've touched on this subject a lot lately...........the WR corps he's been saddled with is epically bad..........if Matt Stafford were here and had thrown only 5 TD's but had 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles........a lot of the same people here on TSW that are dogging Taylor would be MAKING excuses for Stafford because he's a high pedigree QB who "looks" the part of a white franchise QB.
McDermott and Beane have badly handled the WR situation and it's had a ripple effect offensively.........it has caused them to lose two games.......it may cause Zay Jones to become a waste of draft picks(MORE value than what they got for Sammy)........it has taken a bite out of Shady McCoy's quest for the HOF..........and it's got Taylor openly talking about basically not being given the same opportunitiy/benefit of the doubt that a white QB would get.
My god Baldo this is just terrible.
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It's a milestone with this receiving corp. Hope Matthews is back.
It doesn't matter who the WR core is, he has never reached 225 per game average with the Bills. So yes, you're right it's a milestone.
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Really going out on a limb with 225 yards like its some huge milestone
LOL I know....first thing I thought of.
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Clemson lost because of Tyrod Taylor.
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If you had supreme intelligence, you would have realized there's no way the poster came up with that himself, and just googled it.
I absolutely googled it.
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It's because Lawson is so good "setting the edge". Gimme a break.
Man you are just so sensitive.
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I agreed with your scouting report.
You posted a link with Whaley talking about Lawson's pass rushing ability.
You did not agree with anything except post a link.
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Someone asked why it was a hot button issue. I answered.
A GM trying to sell his first round pick you don't say?
I guess my scouting report I posted is irrelevant. Yours is the best.
Rob Nincovich type players are just disappointments.
I just hope he can pressure Cutler when we play them because he's great.
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When he was drafted, a very vocal number of fans thought Shaq was a top 5-10 talent who was drafted late because of his shoulder. His surgery and setback were regarded as the "price" for getting a top 5-10 talent at #19. And that once his shoulder healed, he would be a different player.
That's why it's still debated.
Shaq wasn't drafted to be a terror of QB's. Here's his scouting report.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1 SOURCES TELL US "I see Shaq as an outside linebacker in a 3-4. He's not the guy you want to turn loose against the quarterback, but he is the guy that will make it hard for tight ends to block him in the run game. We knew we couldnt run at him and it changed how we called plays." -- ACC offensive coach
NFL COMPARISON Courtney Upshaw
BOTTOM LINE
Productive backup for two years before putting together an All-American season in his first year as a full- time starter. Lawson is built like a full-grown man and combines his instincts, toughness and power to fill up a stat sheet and set an early tone. Lawson's frame and game are easily translatable to the NFL, but his average athleticism and pass rush skills will likely have teams viewing him as a 3-4 edge setter or a 4-3 base end. Lawson may also have value as 3-4 defensive tackle in an upfield scheme.
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in his half year of play and through 4 games your trying to make this determination......seriously?
He is being serious.
Here's another example....look at this thread he created.
https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196392-the-smokin-jay-thread/
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I have said and will always say when he is ok the field and over 80% health he is one of the best athletes on the field.
He's a loser, though, because he loses and does so like a loser would. A poor sport and whiny baby.
I base my opinions on the player. No emotion. I don't do emotions.
the bold and giant font about his stats say otherwise.
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Unless they are the 86 Chiefs, who went 10-6 and made the playoffs with a historically bad offense..,........,...
there is no doubt this Bills team will be a 6-7 win team with this offense.
Defense is good, ST is above average, offense is one of the worst in team history.
Just being honest.
You can't get consistently outgained, yardage wise, by your opponents and expect to be a contender. Ever since the Jets game, the Bills have been badly outplayed by their opponents from scrimmage. While it's no big deal to get outgained in an individual game, but to have it done week after week, no matter whom the opposition is, is very telling, in a bad way.
We haven't even gotten above 300 yards total offense since week 1. That's unbelievable to me.
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I personally think he should go by Shaquille. That's his only mistake.
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Didn't he come out earlier in the year and say he did NOT fit Rex's scheme and he didn't know why they had drafted him? He seems to feel he fits the current scheme better.
He did. Specifically said he didn't understand why Rex thought he was an OLB.
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hitting targets like he does is similar to going target shooting with a shotgun. You're gonna connect some times
next weekend he will go for 300+ yards and account for 3 TDs and be a God again.
I don't think anyone is saying he's a God. You're just using that exaggeration to make your point sound better. He's just not as bad as you think.
Do I think he's elite? No, not at all. Is he a terrible loser? No, not at all.
You base your opinions on players completely on emotion.
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Oh, that's a perfect reference point. Pass rushing is often about how they complement each other. Rare that you have two phenom edge rushers.
Ninkovich being really disciplined, helping to contain while Chandler Jones flies in from the other side? That can work for Shaq & Jerry.
Shaq and Jerry sounds like a Barber Shop duo.
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I guess 17 years of failure gets ingrained. Such low expectations. It's sad.
You're right. Rob Ninkovich was a disappointment in NE because he only averaged about 5 sacks a year.
Can you please start a box score scouting website?
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Yes...with Donny recording.
Tyrod Taylor held to higher standard bc he's black ?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He makes things up to fit his agenda.