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Your ability to miss points is incredible. You specifically bring up total yards as a reason KC defense didn’t play that bad. The Bills gave up less yards and less points than the Jets. But the Bills were shredded and KC didn’t play that bad.

Yeah and it's hurting us. Need to fix this ASAP.

When the Bills gave up 307 yards to the Jets, you said the Bills defense was shredded! But the Broncos put up 320 yards, KC's defense didn't underperform?? So now we can't use total score. We have to use total yards. But then we have to separate redzone now. Holy! It's past bizarre now.

The Bills are 4th in offensive scoring and 2nd in defensive scoring. They are well above average in both areas. Do you not have basic understanding of averages?

Yep. The 3-10 Broncos are actually good and KC should have struggled with them.

LOL nope. I'm not cherry picking, I'm giving you examples of how you can't just use one game to determine everything like you do. "The Eagles dominated the Giants yesterday!". When the Eagles don't dominate "you can't use every game". That's what you literally said. When the Steelers were 11-0, they were 3rd in Super Bowl odds. We are still #1. They lost 4 out of their last 5, we've won 4 in a row. So basically you're trying to make an argument you can't judge a team by an entire season now.

I thought Tua won the MVP last night.

This does not answer my question at all. I find it amazing I can't use a game that happened just two weeks ago but you go and pull up a team from 2 YEARS ago. What did bringing up the 2020 Steelers have anything to do with this discussion?

Is it possible the Dolphins don't even make the playoffs? 8-5 with the Bills, Packers, Patriots and Jets. I can honestly see them losing all these games. 2-2 in the last 4...would 10-7 get them in for sure?

Why can't we use every game? Shouldn't a team be based on a 17 game season and not a few cherry picked games?

And they still are. Was is past tense. https://www.thelines.com/odds/super-bowl/ https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nfl?tab=super-bowl https://www.bonus.com/odds/super-bowl/

Do you think Philly and SF dominating yesterday strengthens your argument? SF two weeks ago won 13-0 at home against a 4-8 Saints team. If the Bills only scored 13 points, at home against the Saints....what would your reaction be? The Eagles needed a last second TD to beat the Colts...a Colts team coached by Jeff Saturday who has never coached. The Colts are obviously tanking and were close to beating the Eagles. Eagles lost the Commanders and struggled against the Texans lol. If the Bills struggled against the Saints, lost to the Commanders and struggled against the Texans....what would your reaction be?

What about KC? When Mahomes had the ball at the 25 with under 5 minutes in the game and a chance to close the game out....what happened? Did Mahomes close the game out?

I think anyone here who played football understands that it's tougher to catch a wet football. Wet football weather are usually lower scoring games because of it. However, the balls he dropped weren't lasers. They weren't difficult catches. He simply dropped them. Not every WR was dropping balls.

Since the the Chiefs "took care of business" because they won, then yes, the Bills have taken care of business. But that's not the case with you because you move criteria with every argument. What I find funny is you criticize Bills fans for making excuses when the Bills don't dominate. But you make excuses for other teams when they don't dominate. You have made excuses for the Chiefs (Wilson is a good QB/Chiefs closed the game out) and the Bengals (avenged an earlier division loss). Both teams struggled but not to you.

His career doesn't matter. We are talking about 2022 Russ because we are talking about the game yesterday. He's awful. So KC allowed the worst QB in the league to come back from 27-0. Minnesota was 8-1 and in 1st place in their division. What was the Broncos record? Guess what we did? We avenged our loss to NYJ just like the Bengals did with Cleveland. But you aren't going to say that, you're going to say the Bills struggled. I know you would have been pissed if the Bills allowed a last place team to come back from 27-0. Trust me, we know you. But you would never say "the Bills took care of business". You would find a negative and run with it.

Used to be but he's god awful now. The Broncos offense is historically bad. 14 ppg!

Again, answer the question. What would have your reaction have been if the Bills allowed the Broncos to come back in the game after being up by 27? Quit skirting the question. Russ Wilson is a very good QB? Did you just say Russ Wilson, who is probably the worst starting QB in the league right now...did you really just say he's a very good QB? Wilson is a very good QB when they are averaging 14 points per game on offense. I cannot believe you are saying this....actually I do. Show me where I'm twisting facts. He's right you know. Russ Wilson has been a really good QB this year. That's factual and cannot be debated.

He praised KC for closing the game out against the Broncos. If the Bills played like the Chiefs did against the Broncos, he would be ripping this team. Absolutely ripping this team. "How can you let a last place team get back into the game when up 27-0????"

If the Bills were up 27-0 and let a last place team back into the game, how would you react? Would you say "the Bills took care of business?"

I am definitely on the train that we need more pass catchers. I thought Davis and McKenzie would fill in fine. Davis finally getting the #2 position and thought McKenzie would give us the YAC element from the slot. Both have been disappointments. #2 needs to be upgraded but we can't do that this year.. McKenzie needs to sit. I can't wait for Crowder to come back or move Shakir to full time slot. I have no faith in McKenzie and he scares me that he's going to have a ball bounce off his pads, go in the air and it becomes a pick 6.

I don't think they're going to look silly. If we had a dome in 2014 and a few weeks ago, we couldn't have played the game.

If the Bills were up 27-0 and allowed a last place team to come back where we had to squeak out a win, what would your reaction have been?

As soon as it switched to snow, both offenses started moving the ball.

That still doesn't make it a great game. These are stats our RB's have put up before.