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How many legitimate starting options are there? Maybe the Bucs? Texans?

It sounds like McGovern is going to be the RG which would move Bates back to LG. Is Bates better as a LG? So the interior of our line might approve with just one addition. LG won't be terrible and if McGovern is a better RG than Bates....potential solid group. I actually hope Brown isn't our starting RT. I think he just moves too slow for speed rushers and will get beat consistently.

Actions speak louder and the Giants gave him a 1 year/$875,000 contract extension. That's not a contract you offer someone you believe is going to be an integral part of your offense.

Special Teams doesn't absolutely doesn't matter? The 2010 Chargers had the leagues #1 offense and #1 defense but the 32nd ranked ST. I'm going to let you take a guess on what was the reason they didn't make the playoffs.... It's not about just the average, it's the context. Late in a game where it's within a 3 point game, that's where special teams can matter a lot.

I think PFF is good for data and analytics. Player evaluation is entertainment for fans. But some fans with this informational portal now think they are as talented as scouts. Just like people think they are Scientists now because they read a science blog.

Would you feel better if we brought in competition for Bates or Brown?

Do you honestly think the Bills pay PFF for player grades? Why pay a front office millions to evaluate talent when you can get a PFF subscription for $12.99 a month? Why watch so much film on a player when you can just click on a player profile and read about it on PFF? Eric Wood was on WGR and talked about how he's skeptical about PFF for basically the same reason as Lang described. Wood said he was pulling and didn't get to his block quick enough and was graded negatively. He didn't get to his block because the guard got pushed into the backfield and he had to reroute last second. He actually should have been graded positively because he didn't get caught up and was still able to get at least a little body the guy. But PFF said he was late and didn't clear out the blocker like he was supposed to. He mentioned the OL coaches grades and the PFF grades would always be drastically different. https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/tj-lang-pro-football-focus-is-absolute-garbage/ "But they don't know anything about identification, what offensive linemen are supposed to do. They think if a guy blitzes off the edge, that's automatically the tackle's block, but a lot of times that's not the case. They've always graded me well, which I don't mind, but I still don't respect it," Lang said. Apparently, most NFL players feel the same way. "I know most of the guys that I've played with absolutely hate it, just because it's started to gain so much steam now where Sunday Night Football, Thursday Night Football, they're actually showing stats up there for the players," said Lang. "I think it's absolute garbage and I think most players do."

"Baseless assumption?" You don't know the play or the check offs or the audibles. They do not know the entire responsibility of the player. Neither does the PFF grader which is what Kelce is saying. So now its with you: PFF > Bills PFF > Kelce's Where's your supporting evidence? A PFF link where you don't have a subscription to isn't evidence lol.

I just read the two stupidest sentences in the history of the internet (bolded). There is a ton of applicants too.... https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/travis-kelces-stunning-accusation-about-pro-football-focus-grades/ “The thing is that these PFF graders are grading off of what they think the play should be,” Travis Kelce said. “Whereas we might have a specific fundamental or we might have a specific call that takes us into something else and the play doesn’t work. … The graders don’t necessarily know the objective of the play and the fundamentals that we’re being taught.”

https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/travis-kelces-stunning-accusation-about-pro-football-focus-grades/ “The thing is that these PFF graders are grading off of what they think the play should be,” Travis Kelce said. “Whereas we might have a specific fundamental or we might have a specific call that takes us into something else and the play doesn’t work. … The graders don’t necessarily know the objective of the play and the fundamentals that we’re being taught.” That’s a common criticism of the site, but Travis later added to it. “I also think that there [are] agents out here paying guys to get higher grades than others,” he said. “I won’t name any names.”

Don't skirt the question. Do you think PFF is a better talent evaluator than the Bills FO? You obviously do because you think PFF is gospel. Your proof that it's "well known" about his scouting report is one PFF report? That's seriously what you're using? PFF is infallible. They never miss. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-denver-broncos-trade-seattle-seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-2022 Wilson is my fantasy QB7 ahead of 2022, behind only Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow at the moment. Jokes about Russ being the third-best QB in his own division aside: the Broncos are suddenly a legit title contender and figure to flirt with the league's top-10 scoring offenses for however long Russ wants to keep cooking. https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/travis-kelces-stunning-accusation-about-pro-football-focus-grades/ “The thing is that these PFF graders are grading off of what they think the play should be,” Travis Kelce said. “Whereas we might have a specific fundamental or we might have a specific call that takes us into something else and the play doesn’t work. … The graders don’t necessarily know the objective of the play and the fundamentals that we’re being taught.” “I also think that there [are] agents out here paying guys to get higher grades than others,” he said. “I won’t name any names.” Conclusion: "PFF knows more about football than the Kelce's." - BullBuchanan.

I don't care about PFF grades. You I'm not taking a shot at you just to take a shot....but you had Allen Robinson as a top 10 WR after your research. Robinson was terrible and not even in the top 50. You had Jeffrey Simmons as a better defensive player than TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa, Chris Jones.... The Titans were a more talented team than the Bills. You have to be open to the idea that your opinions aren't infallible.

You're funny. One. You never heard of this guy until an hour ago yet you already knew his reputation by all these experts that are highly skilled at talent evaluation? How is that possible? I would ask for proof, like a link where its wide known that he is an average pass blocker and terrible run blocker but I know you're making that up. You just want to B word about the move. And two. So every snap that he has every played has been watched and evaluated by experts much more high skilled and trained than any of us. That's true. Does that include Beane and our scouting staff? Unless you're claiming you're a better talent evaluator than the Bills Front Office. Where is the content on this model? Show us how you have this knowledge. Do the Bills FO not watch game tape?

Oh is it really known? A guy you never watched play or heard of is well known to you on his play?

Dawkins is not a small extension and that was 3 years ago. How is this a stop gap when he’s 25? Did you want Ben Powers just because of his PFF grade? From what I understand, he’s not very good. He benefited by Lamar being an incredible scrambler and runner. Of his 909 snaps he had last season, how many did you watch? He never watched him play. He just never heard of him.

Morse was signed an extension last year. Dawkins signed his extension in 2020. We invested a 3rd round pick in Brown which is where you generally want to get a good RT. Brown hasn’t been but its not like we avoided the position. Does it really matter if he wasn’t on any source of best FA?

Did our guards do their jobs last year? Did we have problems with skill players scoring? We made Mitch Morse one of the highest paid centers and Dion Dawkins a top paid LT. We have to improve on the OL but you're acting like none of the starting 5 get paid. You don't even know who McGovern is and you have somehow evaluated him.

I don’t watch much college football but do defenses just pass interfere all the time on 3rd and long? I think its 10 yards right?

I would hate this. That would mean a defensive holding would give you an automatic 1st down. That's the rule that needs to change. An Offside does not give you an automatic 1st down if it's more than 5 yards...why should a defensive hold. I can understand a PI but not a defensive hold.

You didn't even know this guy existed before today.

If you're at a bar, the women are most certainly looking at Sam Martin over you.

I was in my crawl space installing insulation this past weekend. I was getting closer to the corners and my foot disturbed a nest when I slipped on a loose dirt clump. I have plastic sheeting all down there so I couldn't see them scattering but I could feel the vibrations. I was frozen solid for about 3 minutes.

The other Connor McGovern.