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It’s a subjective based system in which a grader gives his opinion on whether or not they believe player did the right thing. If Aaron Rodgers 5 TD 0 INT performance is rated 23 points lower than Ryan Fitzpatrick 6 INT and 0 TD performance…it has major grading issues IMO. But yes, at least we can agree on your last paragraph!

Decent depth.

I see that because you’re now using adjusted sack rate now to prove Reid is a terrible OL evaluator since PFF said he’s pretty good. BTW, Kelechi Osemele was an All Pro and Pro Bowler. He stopped playing after one season with the Chiefs because he tore BOTH knees. That’s why he stopped playing, not because he was just terrible. This style will never pick up.

I’m not sure if I should believe you or Travis Kelce. I don’t know who would have more direct knowledge.

Is Bernard that lost or is he someone that just needed a year to have the game slow down for him?

Is there a chance we get a thumper but take him off the field on passing downs and replace him with a big safety?

They were missing 3 starters because Kelechi Oseleme was on IR.

LOL at you saying PFF is better at evaluating OL talent than Andy Reid. But PFF said that the Chiefs offensive line was just outside of the top 10. But you said they were terrible that year. Now I don't know what to believe. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2020-offensive-line-rankings 11. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Any time you can lose one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL for over half the season and keep your head above water as an offensive line, that’s not a bad result. That’s what we’ve seen from the Chiefs this season, with right tackle Mitchell Schwartz missing every game since Week 6 with a back injury. His replacement, Mike Remmers, has fared admirably in pass protection in his stead. Remmers’ pressure rate allowed of 4.4% this season would be his lowest mark at the tackle position since 2014. The Chiefs’ offensive line can be made out to look worse than it is in pass protection because of the way Patrick Mahomes plays the position and the deeper drops he takes. In fact, a position-high 53 pressures were charged to Mahomes himself over the course of the regular season. It’s something that the Chiefs will gladly live with because of the plays that Mahomes can make and the way he avoids negative plays, but it’s something to keep in mind when evaluating the offensive line. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings - Chiefs #5 https://www.pff.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17 - #13

Wouldn't Andy Reid singing PFF's worst rated tackle to the 4th highest contract for his position be furthering the point they don't give a ***** was PFF grades are? The evaluation of the Reid and PFF are literally, completely opposite. And two, what you have proven is that PFF grading is worthless if it can be manipulated by money.

I know....I know lol

What's even more funny is Einstein created this thread last year.

The grade and data can't go hand in hand if money change the grade and data! Then it's not data and analytic driven, it's money driven!

@Einstein What are your thoughts on this? Andy Reid gave Taylor $80 million to play Left Tackle and he was PFF lowest rated tackle? Did Reid forget to renew his PFF subscription? He actually graded lower than Rodger Saffold. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article273093095.html#:~:text=Taylor's 39.7 PFF grade in,deal with the Washington Commanders. Taylor's 39.7 PFF grade in that aspect was lowest among all tackles who played 80% of their team's snaps in 2022. The Chiefs acquired Taylor on a day they lost their other starting tackle, as Andrew Wylie agreed to a three-year deal with the Washington Commanders.

This debate was won by you? It's slander when I say you can't keep up with the conversation after it was told to you multiple times the difference between data/analytics and player grades? I defamed your character with that statement?? You're not that sensitive are you?

Okay lol. He's your double standard again. When I bring up Eric Wood, TJ Lang and what the Kelce's say about PFF....it's just their opinion and it doesn't make them right. Correct? How does this not apply to the PFF Analysts then? Why is it "it's just their opinion and it doesn't make them right?".

If that's the case, why are you criticizing me for criticizing PFF? Or are you that guy that's allowed to criticize and others aren't? Your ability to keep up with a conversation is just poor. I said the data and analytics are good information, player grades are not. But you're now telling me again I'm saying it's all total garbage. https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Pro-Football-Focus I bet these guys who make minimal pay are experts.

This has been explained to him multiple times but he doesn't get it. His stance is "PFF knows more than you so can't criticize". I guess I can't criticize the plumber who didn't connect my drain pipe upstairs and lead to a leak because he knows more about plumbing than I do.

It's based on a guy watching a broadcast view or film and then determining if the player did what he thinks he was supposed to do. If PFF=Bills then there would be no reason why any team would hire a scouting staff. They would just subscribe to PFF. Hmmmmmm..........funny to me that you often criticize Beane and McDermott who know significantly more football than you.

Do not correct me in front of the children or they will never respect me.

Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde weren’t every down starters until they got to Buffalo. Milano is a 4th round pick. Josh Norman signed with Washington and fell off a cliff.

I beg to differ.

Chevy Chase hasn't made a good movie since Dirty Work.

Are you Carlos Mencia and just recycle the same material?

I specifically stated PFF is good for data and analytics but the player grading is for the fans. Everything you stated from Kelly to Shanahan to Reich is about that and not player grading. If a coaches grade is different from PFF grades...who is right? Are you legitimately telling me PFF knows more about the responsibility of the player than the positional coach? I'm letting you know, I'm sure the Bills watch their own film and Beane's Big Board is from his evaluations and not PFF's lol. LOL at me not liking PFF because they say unflattering things. PFF has been very favorable of the Bills with my favorite players like Allen, Diggs, Milano and several others. I don't like it because of the reasons already I put down and it's incredibly inconsistent grading system. Stuff like this. https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/09/12/twitter-reaction-patrick-mahomes-disrespectful-pff-grade-week-1/ Mahomes completed 30-of-39 pass attempts for 360 yards and five touchdowns. He accrued a 144.2 passer rating (158.3 is a “perfect passer rating”), the highest of any quarterback in Week 1 by far, and yet, somehow, PFF slotted him behind seven others. And this. This is absolute garbage below. https://www.pff.com/news/why-aaron-rodgers-earned-a-slightly-negative-grade And on top of that, you absolutely do not trust the Bills FO. You constantly criticize them all the time so if Bills = PFF....why don't you constantly criticize PFF then?