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I think this might be a little bit of a stretch. We found these players without using a ton of resources to get them. Poyer was a back up in Cleveland. Hyde was a FA signing to a mid level deal and I believe wasn't the full time starter in GB. Milano was a 5th round pick. Tre White was a 1st rounder but a late first rounder. Taron Johnson was a 4th round pick. These are key contributors to our defense.

Okay...but it's still March right? I don't know the stats of teams that were trending down in Vegas in March and then go onto winning the Super Bowl....I just think it's meaningless right now with any team in the top 10ish now. Philly was 12 last year. So much more can happen from now until kickoff. I mean yeah, the Texans, the Falcons, the Commanders, the Titans....pretty sure you can keep them way down all year.

The defense didn't show up against the Bengals at all and struggled down the stretch. But you can't say our injuries didn't have a major effect on the defense throughout the year. Players that have been All Pro or 2nd team All Pro on our defense are: Micah Hyde - 15 games missed Jordan Poyer - 4 games missed Von Miller - 9 games missed Tre White - 10 games missed If you replaced the names above with lets say the 49ers and Nick Bosa, Erik Armstead, Fred Warner and Charvarius Ward missed that many games....would you expect their defense to struggle? Again, the Bengals game was still embarrassing but I think it was more mental than physical that game. We played dead. That's why I have zero problem with what Diggs did by just leaving after the game. He was pissed...no one was really showing any fight out there for whatever reason. We need more Diggs attitudes.

I think you're a little petty being that its March. It's not like they went from Favorites to out of the top 10. We could jump to #1 again. Fanduel, Oddshark, Draftkings have is just behind the Chiefs. But yes, I want more help for Allen.

They are between 2-5...how does that not make them Super Bowl favorites being in the consensus top 5? Not the favorite as we can see but a top 5. Last year the Eagles were 12th. Only 6 teams have won the Super Bowl as the preseason favorite.

Current odds. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/ Kansas City Chiefs +600 Buffalo Bills +850 Philadelphia Eagles +900 Cincinnati Bengals +900 San Francisco 49ers +900 Dallas Cowboys +1500 Baltimore Ravens +1600 Los Angeles Chargers +2000 Jacksonville Jaguars +2500 Detroit Lions +2500 New York Jets +2500 Los Angeles Rams +3000 Miami Dolphins +3000 Green Bay Packers +3100 Cleveland Browns +3500 Denver Broncos +3500 New Orleans Saints +3500 Minnesota Vikings +4000 Las Vegas Raiders +4000 New York Giants +4000 Pittsburgh Steelers +5000 Carolina Panthers +5500 Washington Commanders +5500 New England Patriots +5500 Seattle Seahawks +6000 Chicago Bears +6500 Tennessee Titans +7000 Atlanta Falcons +7500 Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7500 Indianapolis Colts +25000 Arizona Cardinals +28000 Houston Texans +28000

Because those guys aren't typically let go by teams and signed to long term extensions. And if the hit the market, they get insane money. I mean Juwan Taylor a RT just got an $80 million dollar contact to play LT where he's never played before. I'm more of a believer in drafting and developing offensive line talent. It seems like, I could be wrong, but it seems like that big offensive lineman contracts bust more often than any other unit.

You can lose instincts. Especially after an injury…you become more likely yo hesitate. I believe this is what kept Tre out for longer than normal. But then you have Von Miller who wasn’t fazed at all.

I like the moves but nothing gets me totally excited. I like the potential for McGovern and Deonte Harris. I like that Bates probably moves back to LG where I think he's stronger and an upgrade over Saffold. I anticipate McGovern is a better RG than Bates. Bates IMO made his name as a LG in 2021. I don't feel comfortable with Spencer Brown at RT. We don't need a star RT but also don't need a liability like Brown is. Jeremy White brought up a good point. You have to be really, really special in something if you're a 5'6 and playing in the NFL. Looks like the Bills are giving him that shot to untap it. We need another WR and I suspect we aren't done looking.

Yeah, I was a main culprit. It started with me criticizing the statements that McGovern isn't good because of his PFF grade isn't high. I didn't let it die. Sorry guys.

I'm with you here and it makes me laugh thinking about it. Usually when the team doesn't have the coaching, the talent or the GM...that's a 2-3 win team.

Did I tell you I scored 4 TD’s in the Chicago area city championship at Polk High?

Scoring a TD on 40% of your catches is something you tell a girl a bar trying to impress her.

“PFF is scientifically sound and valid” lol

lol this isn’t the same as Customer Satisfaction survey to see if people prefer Coke over Pepsi. Geezus dude.

Not in a player evaluation grade lol. A player evaluation is a subjective analysis/observation. Its why not every teams Draft Big Board is the same lol. Remember when you said “just because you play football doesn’t mean you know football?” I starting to think just because you have an Engineering degree….

Great. Just because he has a degree is Science doesn’t mean it can be applied to a game of football lol.

🤣PFF follows a scientific process. Dude come on. I did go to college and received a secondary education degree and was certified in Middle Grades and Secondary Science. He’s doubling down on his statement too.

PFF is scientifically valid😂 Geezus lol

I'm watching this now. Is that how scientists view black holes?

I think we've been pretty good in the slot when we had Beasley 2019-2021. Last year that was a big issue without him.

IMO, he was supposed to do more or they wanted more out of him. He was replacing Beasley and was supposed to give us that more athletic slot guy and can get a little more YAC. That type of production is something that's not totally hard to replace.

Richard Noggin sent you this. You only replied to have his quote...for a specific reason. So I guess football disagrees with Greg Cossell as well. He basically said the same thing as Lang but used the word "difficult" instead of "impossible". I've already put Kelce's quote which is the same thing. So basically any NFL Player who says unflattering things about PFF potentially doesn't have the knowledge of scope of the full game. You cherry pick your stats as well. Only using PFF when it says what you want it to say. Greg Cosell (a broadly respected pro), on the other hand, continually reminds Schopp and the Bulldog that there are NUANCES WE CANNOT KNOW when watching film. And this has been his credentialed day job for a long time. He will offer his best educated guesses and opinions, and be repeatedly (maybe evasively) insistent that the scheme-specific and even play-specific nuances in overall design, individual techniques, pre- and post-snap checks, calls, and reads, etc., are difficult to know for sure, especially in the cases of breakdowns and missed assignments. It's actually fascinating to explore and acknowledge these possibilities. But it won't get the same online engagement, most likely...

You're acting like this evaluation and system is flawless lol. Yeah it's theirs but that means the players should agree with it? They clearly think it's *****.

Lang covers that. "If a guy clearly gets beat, that's one thing. But if you're going to say, 'This guy didn't pick up the linebacker, this guy missed a blitz,' there's no possible way that you can know that unless you know what the offensive linemen's responsibilities are. And nobody else knows that," Lang said. "I don't know what Arizona's offensive line does. They might do something completely different than what we do."