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Sorry, I don’t remember Manning scrambling to his non-throwing side, running towards out of bounds, turning to throw an uncatchable downfield. I also don’t remember him fumbling a snap, picking it up, fumbling again when he ran straight into a defensive lineman like Mark Sanchez. Is his play of wreckless and immature not a correct statement?

Again, its the types of INT’s he’s throwing. He had been telling us since his rookie year he would stop this hero ball stuff. He should not be making rookie mistakes year 6. Throwing INT’s is one thing, throwing INT’s on balls you should be throwing out of bounds instead of throwing it up into double coverage is another.

I think they plan on using 1,000 grow lights from Amazon.

When he first hit, I feared it but he bounced back quickly so I knew he was fine. I’m sure we have all hit our head and was dazed for a split second…that’s what it looked like.

At one point, since he was creating so many Taylor threads, I counted. It was around 25 not even all the way through the season.

Then you don’t throw it his way. Diggs was running uncovered underneath. Davis wasn’t running a stop route where he can come to the ball. He was running a corner route with his momentum going towards the sidelines. It was a pass that should have never been thrown.

I’m not going down a QB argument with you because you will spin it every time. You did this with Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel back on the BBMB days. You relentlessly made excuses for them and looks like you’re still that guy. Its okay to be pissed and say our QB sucked. He only has a +6 TD/INT ratio in his last 12 games. That’s pretty bad. He might be in the negative if you include fumbles. It doesn’t mean I hate Allen or think he sucks. Monday Night was flat out embarrassing and shouldn’t have happened. The double fumble showed he was mentally out if it. The wreckless/immature style is what you worry about as a rookie, not year 6. I

If you own stock in artificial grass….sell.

You’re completely ignoring the major issue and context. Its not that Allen just had turnovers, its how he had the turnovers. If he sits back and makes the wrong read and he’s picked a few times, yeah it sucks. But when he’s bailing early from pockets and throwing it downfield for no reason into double coverage…yeah that shouldn’t happen, especially twice in one game. Then he fumbles the snap, tries to pick it up and run without looking to fumble again. Come on. Stop box score evaluating and understand context. Allen is getting killed in the media for being wreckless and immature….they’re not wrong. So yes, seriously.

The Cowboys are playing them this week and I'm pretty sure you're going to see Dak throw at least 35 times. So will KC and the Chargers and the Dolphins.

That was Jason Campbell.

I was at that game. I was on the other end of the field for the Hail Mary attempt. I couldn't see the play and had to rely on the crowds reaction to make sure it wasn't caught. That 4th down TD conversion was the loudest I ever screamed at a Bills game.

It was the most confused I've seen from him since his rookie year at the Packers.

If you live or die by one way, you're not going to survive. Miami seems to be either a juggernaut to a juggerNOT <----pun The Bills don't have a big speed element and have been a top 3 scoring team in the last 3 years. It seems we do have open WR's as well with our play design...especially underneath. I wish we could go to a more methodical approach. Our best game last year offensively was the Rams game because it was a good balance of short and long.

Having one gripe about someone doesn't mean it's his entire body of work. His game plan was fine Monday night, it was Allen that destroyed it.

The Chiefs remained at the top of the NFL in scoring without Hill. Yes and the Dolphins are extremely inconsistent in scoring.

The one thing I have a grip about with Dorsey is Allen is very successful under center and play action. We only ran that 14% of the time according to Joe Marino. Why not run something more when it's incredibly successful?

If it wasn't the very first game of the season, it would be logical. I remember you saying the Bills offense was "exposed" after the Steelers opening day loss in 2021. Was that logical thinking being that they finished 3rd in points at the end of the year?

But that's not the point.

So he did and acceptable job. And water isn't wet. Wet is what happens when water touches an object.

Why didn't you answer the question? Where did you learn to break down film in the trenches? I didn't say experts. You don't need to be an expert to understand at the basic X's and O's level. If you played offensive line at HS level, you understand how to break down film as an offensive lineman. Some people do it as a hobby because they study it. This isn't some sort of rare ability. I played WR so I've never had to break down film inside the trenches. So since I don't know, I don't pretend I know. So I rely on guys I trust know what they're looking at. Videos are posted in this thread and posters who understand the game are commenting on it. That's where you and I differ. You hold onto a thought and that's it. You don't learn anything being so stubborn. So yes

Yes he's coachable. Just because he falls back into bad habits doesn't mean everything about him is uncoachable. He is a significantly better QB that he was his rookie year.

You don't know how to evaluate and passing it off as facts....got it. Just out of curiosity, where did you learn to break down film in the trenches?

So you're perspective is putting your players in harder positions to succeed is less of a concern. White was covering two gaps. As a coach, you want that?

Okay. We will disagree. I will be in favor of the opinion on people who know how to look at film.