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I haven't watched a Super Bowl in probably 5 years. It's on but I am half way paying attention or focusing on something else. If I go to a party, I socialize more than watch. I like minor league baseball more as well because you are closer to the game. You hear conversations in the dugouts if you're close enough, you hear the sound of the ball of the bat more, you hear the pop of the mitt more....it's a much better experience IMO.

Keep in mind that since 2020, we have ended the seasons on at least 5 game win streak. 2021 at 7-6, the team didn’t practice on the bye week. The players have Tablets with the playbook…we have seen that with all teams. They can have Teams or Zooms meetings easily. We don’t know what happens with them every hour of the day.

I don't think you have to worry about AJ sitting the bench. Since Von has been back, AJE is still getting more snaps.

Come on Bob. The impact a HS kid takes isn't anywhere near what an NFL player takes. Players today are bigger, faster and stronger. When bigger and stronger players move faster, the impact is much greater. Not just impact, a body that moves faster and cuts is a much, much greater chance of injury, https://vault.si.com/vault/2001/05/07/the-wrecking-yard-as-they-limp-into-the-sunset-retired-nfl-players-struggle-with-the-games-grim-legacy-a-lifetime-of-disability-and-pain "The incidence of serious, noncontact knee injuries is much higher than it used to be," he says. Artificial turf is only part of the problem. "These athletes are bigger, stronger and running faster, and they're tearing up knees from cutting, changing direction on a dime," Andrews says. "In fact, the incidence of anterior cruciate ligament injuries is higher from noncontact than contact. I've seen guys get significant injuries just falling on the football. It's like a big tree falling." Great Bob, you remember when the NFL didn't have a bye week? I remember in the early 90's when they had 2 bye weeks. In the 60's, they also implemented the bye week. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/10/22/9573783/history-of-bye-weeks-in-nfl-and-how-bengals-perform-following-bye The first appearance of a "bye week" took place during the 1960 season. The NFL had 13 teams, and due to an odd number of teams, one team had a "bye" each week. Again in 1966 the NFL had an odd number of teams with 15 total franchises. So in 1966 the league again had a "bye week" on the schedule for each team. In 1966 and 1967 the AFL (forerunner of the current AFC) had an uneven number of teams, with nine. And so each week, one team had a "bye week". The NFL introduced the "bye week" for the 1990 season and extended the sixteen game regular season to seventeen weeks. The league has featured a "bye week" every year since then. How did they get by? They really didn't as half the league admitted they retired early from the injuries and paying for it later. A 1990 Ball State study, commissioned by the NFLPA and covering the previous 50 years of league history, revealed that among 870 former players responding to a survey, 65% had suffered a "major injury" while playing--that is, an injury that either required surgery or forced them to miss at least eight games. The study also reported that the percentage of players incurring such injuries had increased alarmingly: from 42% before 1959 to 72% in the 1980s, after many stadiums had switched from grass to artificial turf. Two of every three former players disclosed that their football injuries had limited their ability to participate in sports and other recreation in retirement, and more than half of them also had a curtailed ability to do physical labor. Of those who played during the '70s and '80s, nearly half (50% and 48%, respectively) reported that they had retired because of injury—up from 30% in the years before 1959. Players like Billy Shaw and Art Donovan could do this right? Tristan Wirf - 6'5 and 320 lbs. Billy Shaw - 6'2 and 260 lbs Art Donovan - 6'2 and 260 lbs

Not most, all. You’re not a sports guy Bob. You watch it but that’s it. Exactly. Especially for the rookies who hit the rookie wall or the older vets who need more rest time. Its week 13 and we just now got a rest and Bob wants to take that away. I played college baseball and the physical grind is not anywhere near an NFL players and I was exhausted. If you have nagging injury that you are playing through, you need that rest badly. Its the only time you can do it. Mentally, its am incredible grind.

This is incredibly stupid.

A guy I played with from HS was the best corner I have ever faced. He played in the FLA/GA All Star game and he lined up against Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson smoked him all game and I was just in shock because that never happened to Bo. That's when I knew, I need to focus more on baseball.

I am discussing it with you. I have asked you questions on something and you don't answer it because you can't give a good answer. Every team gives their players the full week off, it's nothing new, it's been that way in the 35 years of football I've watched and when the Bills do it...it makes absolutely no sense? The data actually makes the most sense since it's 100% one sided. I guess we just have really different perspectives.

We are on the same page about them making this choice. I think I have a different perspective because I played college baseball and I didn't go through anything like what these NFL players are going through and it was grueling for me and all of us. By midseason, I would take those Yellow Jacket energy pills before games just to get up. We had a lot of players on coke to get over the fatigue. Any time we had any break, we did nothing but drink beer, smoke weed, sleep, play Madden/Tiger Woods Golf, go to the pool and order about 15 Little Caesars pizzas. You're just mentally and physically tired and you just need a break. Live like Peter Gibbons.

From what I am reading they have to have at least 4 days off. So the other days, they could technically practice.

Don't give me a cop out answer "I don't care what other teams do". What's the reason that no team in the NFL practices on their off weeks? Yeah these NFL softies don't belong here because 100% of them get a full bye week. Do you want to lose out on FA to the Chiefs, Bengals, 49ers and other contenders because you are making it very clear around the league that player health isn't the #1 concern?

The guy who doesn't have any idea of the grueling demand of a season is telling us what is good for those players. Refreshing. "Even though I've never been through it, I know what is or isn't enough for these players." Entitlement. So basically every team in the playoff hunt should be practicing on their bye weeks. Yet none of them do it. Broncos are on a 5 game winning streak, sitting at 6-5. Shouldn't they be practicing on bye weeks? What about the Chiefs? They are averaging 23 ppg on offense....now where near Super Bowl Championship level. They must be content with how good on offense they have been this year. The 60's, they played 12 games. We now play 17. They players travel more because there are more teams. Players are bigger, stronger and faster....the impacts are greater. But I guess the argument is, if they make a lot of money, they don't deserve the max rest the the CBA fought for. That's amazing to me.

We are averaging 34 ppg with Cook in the line up under Brady. You say give them something else to defend besides Allen, well they are with Cook. Which is why he has 100 total yards in the last 2 games. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php

LOL. We have averaged 34 points per game in the last 2 with Brady as OC and Cook as the main back....who had 100 yards total in both games. 34 points a game isn't good enough to carry or something?

I think this is like the 3rd incident with him and DV....he's been in these situations before. Ugh, it really doesn't look good now but we have to wait until the facts come out. Von took a selfie with my son and I last year and signed our poster board....he was so kind. I hate having to think this about him now.

No we actually did reply to each other. Yes, I do agree that the NFL players and bullfighters and ballet dancers and anyone else who mangles their bodies for a passion...that doesn't mean I won't feel for them when they get hurt and certainly won't be in disagreement if these NFL players get a few more days off on their bye week. My Paper Mill GM comment was just to state they do it for money as well. Just like athletes, they do it for money but they seem to be criticized for it. They are like everyone else. Everyone makes a choice about most things. If that choice gets them hurt, I think it's a bit harsh just to say "well it was their choice so I don't feel bad for them". It was Tre White's choice to play football and when his Achilles tore, my heart broke.

Who cares what other teams do? I care. You really do want to be the only team that practices on bye weeks. The players fought hard in the last CBA to have practice and contact reduced, you know, especially since another game was added in the regular season the last few years. But lets punish our players for being 6-6 and tell them they have to stay and practice on their bye week like their a 1980's high school football team. Buffalo will surely be desired destination for decent FA's.

I think you have me confused with someone else. I didn't reply to a comment of yours I believe....unless I'm mistaken.

A General Manager at a paper mill makes a lot of money. Do you think he works all those hours because he loves making paper or is it because they pay him well? Money is the ultimate factor in every position in every industry. It seems, for whatever reason, athletes are criticized when money is their top motivator. NFL players are motivated by money, the fans, the attention, the glory, the rings, their teammates...it's not just one thing. These players were once little kids and fans once themselves. If the players didn't really care about the fans, they wouldn't give back so much to the community. Fans are mentioned all the time in post game conferences. Allen brought them up after losing to Jacksonville because he felt bad the Bills didn't give them a good product on the field after making that trip. These guys aren't all just shallow people POS. You can see it in Allen that he wants to win a Super Bowl for the fans and city of Buffalo.

I watched a documentary about Frank Sinatra years ago. The most desired man in Hollywood, filthy rich, could have any woman he wanted, was the leader of the coolest group in the world and was known as a the ultimate Alpha Male.....yet was still clinically severely depressed and attempted suicide multiple times.

It is. These guys mangle their bodies for our entertainment and a fan questions them wanting a full week off during a bye week? Talk about an entitled and privileged attitude. Continuous crippling pain Seventeen years removed from his NFL career, ex-quarterback Don Majkowski says he can no longer hold down a job. He can't stand for long periods, and sitting is also tough. He has undergone nearly 20 surgeries related to football, including 11 on his ankle, three on his shoulder and two on his back. He has a 12-inch scar on his stomach, and he can't walk very far because his left foot is fused with his ankle by a pair of metal plates and 13 screws. "It's like walking on a pirate peg leg," he said. No one warned Majkowski that all those blindside hits might result in lumbar spinal fusion and degenerative disk disease, and certainly no one mentioned the crippling pain that preceded it. What few warnings he did receive, he didn't particularly listen to. "You hear stories of what you will have to face when you get older," he said. "You don't put much merit in that when you're younger." https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/05/16/do-no-harm-retired-nfl-players-endure-a-lifetime-of-hurt/

Okay so you did answer my question. You do want to the Bills to be the ONLY team in the ENTIRE NFL to have shorten bye weeks to practice. Come to Buffalo, we aren't going to give you full bye weeks while 31 other teams will. In your mind, 4 days should be enough for them. Practicing or playing every week since late July when they report to camp. Not to mention OTA's and weight training/conditioning, training room, film....it's grueling. Every weekend late July to January (longer if you're in the playoffs) is taken away by football. And you say it makes "absolutely no sense" for them to have a week off? This sounds like someone who has never done anything physically exerting for long periods of time. I don't know if you have or haven't but it definitely sounds like you haven't.

We have the talent to do so. We have the coaching to do so up to 55 minutes. It's that last 5 minutes where we aren't good enough to do it. So, we will have to comfortably ahead before we hit the 55 minute mark.

So you want to be the ONLY team in the NFL to have players practice on bye weeks. This is what you want our team to separate themselves from everyone else...practicing on bye weeks? Bye weeks are there to help your bodies and mental health to heal up because it is a very hard contact and mentally grueling sport....it seems you want them to reduce that time. Football season is played during the school year and many of these guys don't get to see their families or their kids play a sport. A Baltimore Ravens player kid played on my kids football last year. The only game he came to was on his bye week.

I don't care that he's a RB, that ball needs to be caught even if you're an unathletic FB. It wasn't an exotic route. He won the route, Allen dropped it in the bucket perfectly and Cook just simply dropped it. I love the guy and he's a great talent but man, he seems to not be completely focused or something early in games. Horrible way to start the Broncos game with the fumble. Killed the momentum on the opening drive against the Eagles. Last year against the Rams, fumbled on his first carry. On the first drive against the Jets in the opener, first drive he completely whiffed on a blitz pick up.