Matt_In_NH

If your take of Josh's performance is he was not good because they had to punt 4 times then lets just agree to disagree. 27/39 329 yards, 4TD's no INT's 11 carries 68 yards. 2 TD's in the final two minutes including one with 13 seconds left...you know not making plays when it counts.

Can you point to the part of 13 seconds when JA failed to produce in a pressure situation?

If I was starting a team, I would want Shanahan over McDermott but I respect both of them as frankly great coaches. My post was snarky/sarcastic in that Shanahan is in a similar position, sure he has made 2 SB's in SF but you have to win. He had leads in both and failed to close. Was that all him? No I don't think so but this board would not stand for losing super bowl's. Getting there is not the goal, you have to win it and in that way Shanahan and McDermott are similar. Heck they have both been beaten by Mahomes and Reid more than once in the playoffs in close games.

I agree with this, Purdy would suck in almost any other offense IMO.

Reid struggle to beat the Bills....I know that is snarky and does not matter because Reid wins SB's but my point is that they are not getting their doors blown off. SO its true the Bills had close games they won...the point is they count. THey also have close games against one of the best dynasties in the history of the league.....in that case close does not count right? You cant have it both ways either close is not good or all that matters is if you win. NFL playoffs are single elimination and a play here or there is the difference vs the Chiefs. The Bills with McDermott can beat that team.

Fair point about the QB but at the same time will he bring McCaffrey, Bosa, Samuel, Kittle, and many other blue chip players with him? Their roster is better than the Bills outside of QB IMO. Also my opinion: Neither will be moving on so its a moot point but I will say if Shanahan was available I would consider it, just dont see it happening. There is only one thing for this team to accomplish and whoever comes here will be "fired" by many in the fan base unless they accomplish that thing.

The title makes no sense. It does not take guts to move on from Tre White They would save 6M by waiving him. But he would have to be healthy to do so. His cap it is 16M which is more than just his salary. 2024 Dead Cap: $10,369,8362024 Cap Savings: $6,073,901

Lets fire the guy that does not get it done for the guy that does not get it done.

When. I compare him to Tucker. Butger and a few others I don’t think he is in that class. but he is paid like it. There are 7 active guys who have averaged 87% for their career. Some of those play in domes for home games so that factors in. My comment is more about exuding confidence under pressure. Bass makes me nervous. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fg_perc_career.htm

Did he though? He has not had a lot of pressure kick opportunities. I have never felt super confident with him. He hit an upright in Detroit when the pressure was in but it went though.

That is unfortunate they said 4th quarter and then did end of game.....sets up for grievances

This board would fire him in an instant

Don't love a lot of Chris Brown's takes but he said something after the loss that resonated with me. It was something like "what if we are in the Michael Jordan era and the Bills are the Knicks". I agree with you, they just find a way to win. THe Bills find a way to win most games but when it has mattered against that team they have not. But when I really look at the last two losses, 13 seconds was a coaching disaster, the players won the game and the coaches lost it. This last one they made one or two plays the Bills did not. Butger does not miss, Bass did. Chris Jones walked Dawkins into Josh, etc. It was that close so even though the Chiefs are a dynasty and all that I cant help but go back to how close these games were/are. No one can convince me the Bills cant beat them.

Is there an opening at waterboy for Belichick?

The personnel mistakes he made....in you opinion. Just because you don't like the results does not mean he made personnel decisions that should be grouped as playing not to lose. I just don't see that is how he coached for that game. Just because you lose does not mean you can conclude he coached to lose. They lost, we don't like it, I get it. To your last paragraph about defensive performances in the playoffs, that is something else and I agree that is an issue. Hard to not call it a trend, is it enough of a sample size to draw the types of conclusions I think you want to draw? Not so sure about that. What do you want to do about it?

We know this because no rookies play under McDermott? For instance Torrence and Kincaid had a couple years under their belt. The bolded is just complete speculation on your part, there is no chance he thought Klein gave them the best chance to win? Don't answer what you think, especially based on hindsight, consider McDermott and the rest of the staff have a lot more information on each player than you do. What about the 4th downs he went for, were those decisions playing not to lose? Curious if you will answer that. If you had to say the third downs given the down and distance and game situation were playing to win or playing not to lose?

That is coaching not to lose? I was expecting kicking a FG or punt when they should go for it (of course you don't have that because he went for it everytime it was close) or just running the ball to burn clock. Did you see the interview of McD after halftime? What was your message to the team: McDermott: "Go for it". You like Dorian Williams over Klein, I say both are terrible options. Just because Williams is more athletic does not make him better. He was routinely abused when he played this year. The opposing offenses just manipulated him with scheme, it was broken down by Joe Marino a couple times.

Id like to nominate Bruce Mathison and Vince Ferragamo https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MathBr00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FerrVi00.htm

Maybe this opens the door for Tasker?

It is but the people that own it allow it....this place could be pretty ugle if it was allowed. Every fan base has idiots, the problem is social media allows the cream of the clowns to rise to the top.

Where did the Bills play not to lose in the divisional round? They went for it on 4th down. They threw to the end zone to score the TD on 2nd and 9. I don't agree with that statement.

You have been reduced to game day thread takes in the offseason

His celebrity status has gone to his head IMO. He thinks the show is about him. But IDGAF it is common wiht some of these athletes.

I understand they mean something different (playoffs vs regular season). But in terms of play on the field and coming down to the last minute/ play here play there they are in The same zip code not worlds apart.

Amazing the Bills take them to the brink everytime they play