Matt_In_NH

He can live it down by playing well......in the regular season.

People actually pay for the protection plan?

It has very little to do with a TD, he has been running as TE2 because he earned it and jumped over O'leary. Nobody is calling him Gronk except Steve. I think Lee makes it because of his blocking ability, they are going to need it. So if can also be an FB that may get him a roster position.

I could see that happening. Can also see Thomas getting cut.

Ducasse, Groy, Miller, Mills are absolute HELL all right!

Henderson is an upgrade over Mills but he is one pee test away from a year ban. Kuoandijo on the other hand is not worth talking about in my opinion.

QFT

He knows where he is going before the snap and nothing stops him from doing that on some plays. DB's guess on those hitches and he will give up pick sixes, that is what Peterman does. It is also what he does well, get rid of the ball in 0.75 seconds cause by 0.76 seconds he will be sacked.

That was a bad contract from day one. But I dont see why you waive him, he is talented and has something to offer. If you are saying we should play the younger guys for experience I guess that is something you could do. I am sure the contract is not tradeable so he is a Bill for one more year.

Great post! What we see on these forums is that a lot people see things as black and white about pretty much everything.

There is no such thing as a crystal ball, all evaluation techniques are flawed in one way or another. Analytics is just one tool, you can never just go by one tool in and of itself. The makeup of the person, mitigating circumstances of the data the analytics use need to be considered as well as many other factors. All the evaluations are done based on what a player has done in the past with a particular team and particular coaches. It is also a small sample size and he is young, he has growing to do still. I think we need to pump the brakes on him though....hopefully it works out as well as we all hope but the guy has played a couple quarters in preseason, no way enough to know what will happen down the road. People are actually saying look at how good the Bills did selecting Allen instead of trading for Foles cause Allen has done well while Foles has struggled in preseason. There is complete amnesia about what Foles did in real meaninful, super bowl winning games. Now we only need to know about his stat line in his last preseason game to know he sucks. Dont take that to mean I want Foles over Allen, I am just saying we need to relax and let things play out.

The only people who say Kelly over Brady are bills fans or just people who hate Brady and are irrational in my opinion.

4th preseason game snap eater.

Peterman will one day win a SB as an OC and then become the Colts HC?

Take it easy man. Not looking for perfection so dint act like I am. I think Allen will be great but there may be a benefit to him sitting the beginning of the season against some touchy defenses. Pre season defenses don’t do a lot of scheming and stuff so you have to take good and bad in preseason with a grain of salt. What you you don’t want to do is start him and have to pull him if it goes badly.

Look at his first throw against the browns. That was a mis fire. First thrown against the panthers was out of bounds. There are others. He still needs work on mechanics.

The role is bell cow 40% of the offense. If it’s not that it’s differnt. I don’t get the same but less thing you are selling. Honestly just give it up. The chances Murphy takes over for shady long term are slim and none

I see the undeniable physical talent but I also see the inconsistency. Not sure he should start immediately.

You mean against the Browns second string. But He didn’t play much cause he was one of the best ever. Not some dude trying to make a team.

Same role on smaller scale? So same or different? Absolute no from me on the question in the title. Murphy maybe could be someone like Kenny Davis. He really should not be compared to a hall of famer

Not sure what that means. A minor injury would hurt a lot, a major injury sometimes does not have that much pain. Lets not jump to conclusions.

He threw that punk to the ground. It was kind of awesome in a way

Rookies tend to do that

Like that guys GPA in Animal House............ZEROOOOOO......POINT.....ZEROOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

People were calling for him to be cut after the game.