Matt_In_NH

Its too early to tell for both. You make a couple good points, especially about the reps. I am not sure the Jets have a better supporting cast, if they do its marginal. This staff totally mismanaged QB all offseason and we are seeing the result. For the bolded, on one had I could say both stats suck but the Jets under Darnold gain a lot more yards and score a lot more TD's than the Bills under Allen. Completion percentage and ratings both suck balls. But at least Darnold has some success throwing the ball, Allen really does not as of yet.

Usually they just give you a prescription for some pot

you are mixing them up. Leodis's lawn was after the Pats debacle.

Out of the three there, its hard to pick which was worst. They were all so crushing in their own ways. And all so go darn wrong.

Pats 61 Bills 5

Remember when Pennington threw for 4500 yards and 45 TD's? that is what Luck is on pace for. You really dont think his arm can continue to get stronger?

I dont think they are more focused on defense than offense in the big picture. I mean they have built up the defense first but that does not really say they favor defense over offense. Given the state of the team they inherited, that is the way it happened. It takes more time to get a QB and develop him than to get some nice defensive pieces.

What? Just fire them now then. Seriously this statement is ridiculous. They are rebuilding, they have shed talent and payroll. A third of their salary cap is for guys not on the team. The offense is terrible and is not really fixable without an offseason. To expect them to win on Monday night given they have bottomed out (by design) is outrageous. I am just hoping this does not go as bad as a couple other prime time games have gone with these guys. Remember Randy Moss 4 td's in the first half? I dont think they need a Czar....that is Beane, he has total control of the football team. Hopefully he knows what he is doing. Jacksonville has a Czar, talent everywhere and they are 3-4 on a team that is supposed to be competing for a SB. We need to remind ourselves, the plan these guys had was to tear it down to then build it back up. We experiencing the bottom....its not fun but had to happen.

I love it but also cant do the flat brim thing....just doesnt work for my head.

Darnold completes 56.1%, 10 TD's, 10 INT's 221.7 ypg and a 74.3 rating Josh Allen completes 54%, 2 TD's 5 INT's 138.7 ypg and a 61.8 rating. Darnold throws for 165% more yards than allen per game, has a better rating and TD to INT ratio. Based on the stats Darnold is significantly ahead. Neither are performing in a way that will win you a lot of games but Darnold is throwing for a reasonable volume of yards/td's for a rookie. There are not a lot of signs of life from Allen IMO so far other than a few plays he has made with his legs. Both can improve immensely though given some more experience this year, an offseason of work and an influx of talent. I am not gonna lie though, I worry if Allen can get it together.

The only part I care about is Josh Allen's development. So far that is going terribly bad.

Two games against this offense will correct their stats.

Josh Allen for Derek Carr? Bills get the big contract, Raiders get the big arm.

Yeah ok....take some more puffs of whatever you are smoking when the magnitude of your point differential is greater than the number of points you scored that is bad, and sad.

There have been plenty of players open where the QB is not seeing it fast enough to react. There was a good breakdown of this in the GB game that I waw online. Players not getting separation is a problem but a lot of times defenses play zone and guys are open, its a matter of reading/anticipation and throwing a ball that can be caught by your guy even in traffic. Im not looking for perfection or anything just signs of life like you see from Darnold and Mayfield. Do they have all pro WR's running around out there?

He's a hot head. He has a history of mouthing off to refs and getting flagged for it, probably more of that. Great player but that stuff is inexcusable.

Not with an aging overpriced vet. It wont change anything this year. The QB has to be able to read and process defenses pre and post snap first.

People got crazy after we signed Harvin who hadn't done anything in years. He continued that and then it was Woods was just a blocker, Hogan was a lacrosse player......no one saw the talent then. I am not saying the guys today measure up to those guys but they woudl be better if the QB could get them the ball on time. Right now the QB (Allen) cant do that, these guys are not 32 because of the WR's its because of the QB. A competent QB would have the offense performing better. Maybe Allen needs to grow and need time/experience but to place all the blame of his lack of production on WR's is nonsense.

Arm talent and scored high on wonderlic.......yeah I know all about it.

And when he is here getting 2-3 looks a game and drops a couple passes, what will people say? "We dont have any wr's" QB's make WR's WR's dont make QB's Get a QB first.

These boards are full of hindsight warriors however not selecting Mahomes is more relevant to Buffalo than the other teams since they traded the pick to the Chiefs for the sole purpose of collecting draft capital to get a QB in the future.

They are trying to do items 1 and 3. Committing to Peterman is a terrible idea. Special teams could improve and it wont change anything. The main problem is the level of ineptness at QB is off the charts bad, worse than 1985 bad. No amount of running the ball or leaning on the defense or starting an interception machine will change that. As far as post season....its over. There is however valuable time and opportunity for Allen to get some experience and hopefully improve.

I agree, if one player is clearly way better you have to go that route. Virgil is also not wrong though but I would argue they can make huge strides on offense both in the draft and in FA with all the money available. Question though, is it ever ok to draft a first round qb two years in a row? I get Allen needs time but if he does not work out where are we?

1 step plan: 1. time machine to mid January. This ain't gonna be pretty no matter what.

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