Matt_In_NH

Let’s her running the qb

Lets try this singletary guy

Christ “watch the screen”

Meh, not as strong as Allen's arm!

Agreed!

So, One is in year 2 and "progressing nicely", when the other was in year two, he was an MVP candidate and in year three has had a "bad start" that is equivalent to the guy in year two who is "progressing nicely"? I am not against Allen or anything but based on that data which would you rather have, the one who was an MVP candidate and had a bad 6 games or one whos best performance is equal to those bad 6 games? Both guys are a work in progress but Goff has actually shown something, taken his team to the SB. Allen is much more of a work in progress than Goff. What does this word mean? Does not appear to be a word. I have no idea what you are saying.

So they are both roughy below average qb’s. What is the point?

Only if you can bring Bruce back

That is an optimistic Bills fan way of looking at it. The Pats schedule has been softer than ours. Lets revisit after they play Houston, Baltimore, Dallas and the KC. And after we play Dallas, Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

He talked about how great the Bills run d is.....I dont think he is totally informed. The Bills D is great but he run defense is the weaker of the two. Yeah he is a former player but I would not read that much into this. I get it we are Bilsl fans and we want to hear good things being said about our team. Those other teams are very good, Ravens, Colts, Chiefs.....I am not convinced the Bills are the best competition.

so you think AB would have worked out well?

Over the last 5 years he has averaged like 20 catches, 300 yards and a TD. He cannot make it with the Patriots/Brady. I get it, he is talented (or at one time he was.) but he cannot be trusted to live up to it. I don't think we want this team to take this guy on, I don't see why. Even if he were to work out, the chances of a relapse are sky high.

He is a WR, sign him?

So he has not done it in 6 years but when the bills sign him we expect it to happen?

When was the last time he took over a game?

ok, so it I did not miss something.....I do remember a 4th and long 1 or 2 they sneaked it that was definitely questionable. But again, the body of work for the play calling, I like what I see, sure I would change a few things. But who thinks they can call plays and never get second guessed? LOL

So when did the Bills QB sneak on 3rd and 4?

The defense kept them in the game. You want to argue about which poo sandwich tastes worse go for it.

Neither has “made it”. Jury is out on both. You want to point to record as proof you are foolish. Let’s look again at the end of next year. Allen was horrendous against the pats also. How quickly we forget.

I dont remember a QB sneak on 3rd and 4. But as I said, there are some things I would change. But at the end of the day, I like a lot more than I don't like. I dont care who calls the plays, fans will complain about some aspect of play calling. Again, it's a modern NFL offensive design and is allowing Allen to get a lot of experience throwing the ball. I don't like the designed runs. But find a team whose fans all think the play calling is great, that does not exist. It is easy and the first thing to criticize.

This is something that does not get talked about. There are a lot of new players on offense across the board, its not just the starters. To make that all work out of the gate is hard.

I see a night and day difference between the play calling this year an any recent year and frankly, I am quite happy with the play calling. The Bills are #2 in adjusted pass play % only behind the Chiefs. While I think they should work to balance more I think this shows a concerted effort to change this offense from what we have watched for the last 15 years to a modern NFL offense. We have been in the stone ages. I do agree that the designed runs to Allen are perplexing but I like the overall design. The running game is super efficient. Pass protection is a concern but Josh reading the defense and making the right throw is the biggest issue. And dont take that as a "Josh Allen hater", he is not seeing everything as he could but with time I hope that gets better. He was getting beat consistently by the all out blitz yesterday, when a seasoned QB would make you pay for doing that (at least once in a while). With the Dolphins it seemed to always be successful. I think Allen is the big factor. Playcalling is a go to excuse when things dont go the way fans want.

I was wondering when he would break that out....its interesting because he is so humble and professional sounding when he gets interviewed. Not that I have anything against the dance, I am good with it but it does not seem to fit his personality that I have heard on the radio...which can obviously be misleading.

It comes down to answering the question. Was it a run play if pass play. Oliver’s Play was a pass play. A would be passed got tackled behind the line of scrimmage...sack. A sweep is a run play....tackled behind los = TFL.

I am not remembering the one before an FG, you may be right on that one. But there was another that led to a punt where he did have time...both were "jail breaks". Not every time but at least sometimes you should burn the defense on those.