Matt_In_NH

He is no rockstar

Saying Josh Allen choked is kind of ridiculous. However any criticism of Josh Allen results in pitch forks back at whoever said such a thing....the masses will breakdown the decision or play and try to mansplain why it was the perfect action or decision and others are always to blame. He had turnover worthy moments that did not result in turnovers.. Patrick Mahomes also had turnover worthy moments, one of which resulted in a actual turnover. My point is Josh Allen is great, we should all be happy but it is also ok to say this play was not his best for the following reason. The game was close, it came down to a couple crucial plays/calls by the refs. The way this works nationally though is what it is, it is Josh Allen losing to Patrick Mahomes....just like it was Manning beating Brady in 3 of their 5 playoff matchups. Mahomes is 4-0 vs Allen. The last two Josh got the ball with 3+ minutes left and timeouts down by 3, both efforts resulted in 0 points....it sucks. There are reasons beyond Allen and Mahomes that made it that way but that will not be what gets discussed.

Lets work on another play maybe........it was embarrassing to watch them run it unsuccessfully over and over and I dont think this would have made a difference.

Maybe then they can break the team record for points per game they set last year.

Allen puts up more stats in his era than Kelly did in his. That is the point. Kemp was 3 score and 4 years ago. Almost nothing can actually be compared to that.

He helped with the 8 team league so he is your favorite? The number of teams makes it like winning the divisional round. Kelly did not rack up stats compared to Allen. Kemp is the reason the team was motivated?

Can you quote where I said the defense played well? I actually just made a joke/sarcastic post becuase you meant to say the Chiefs never score "more than 30 points" but go on with your narrative making........

Do you mean twice?

He will quit before the season starts

And getting the ball with 3 minutes left down 3, failing to convert....Baldy broke it down, failure to recognize what was happening presnap, not that it was easy but it was there to be figured out. At the end of the day it was a well played game by both teams and the Chiefs made one more play. The third down on that drive...the bubble to Cooper could have been a big gainer if he can shake out of that tackle. So many little things

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Even though I said what I said, I dont believe the premise of this thread that "Josh choked". But he did not have his best game. Mahomes had turnover worthy plays also.

Which is totally realistic. I mean even though they broke the team record for points and points per game this year they were only second in the NFL in points scored. It is a major problem

After watch Baldinger's breakddown I agree with you. When I saw in real time I thought he had it. The real issue here is not figuring out what was coming pressnap.

the 2 point conversion was a QB call?

The point about turnover worthy plays is not be be obsessed, you do it because one game is a small sample size and sometimes you get a better view on performance than looking deeper than just the stats. You play the game again, you likely have turnovers.

The Chiefs were geared up for it, they stopped it or greatly limited progress every time. The decision to take the XP off the board and take the 2 point try was aggressive but probably the right move analytically. However, QB sneak is your best play there? You have to get an entire yard....Did not like it in the moment. Then in the second half up by one with the ball, they ran it I think 4 times out of like 8 plays, none of them were particularly successful yet they just kept at it. After the third down, I was like roll him out and give him options, nope lets do it again. Josh new they were stopping them so he did the leap over the pile move at midfield which was a bad move, you are fumbling there, he did, they got it back but that should have been enough for Brady and McDermott to step in and put an end to it. Nope lets do it again....this time its super close and we blame the refs....I think he got it but the call to do it again was way worse than anything the refs did there. That play turned the game. That was a turnover that KC needed.

Upon reflection, it is true Josh did not play his best. He was super jittery on the first drive and he had the orbit motion on 4th down, it was there. He was hitting that in the regular season but the best way to beat any QB is to speed up their decision making process. As soon as he looked away from Shakir, it was over. Even then he made an incredible effort to get the ball to somewhere someone could catch it. And it should have been an easy catch albeit non standard. The OL was not great, Kincaid was not great. Elam was not great. Yes Josh could have been better but we can say that about many other players also. You don't see the poor play in Josh's numbers but he had three fumbles, two interceptable passes and he was not figuring it out presnap like he has the rest of the year. His decision to extend the ball over the line on the first 4th down was poor, that was almost guaranteed to be a fumble, it was, luckily they got it back only to fail on a QB sneak 4 plays later.

I would love to an actual unbiased breakdown of all picks/FA's from Bills, Chiefs, Steelers and whatever other teams have had the same regime over the last 7 years. People love to do their cherry picking. Not saying anything is or is not true but I have never seen a good breakdown of GM's over time. After a loss fans get negative and find problems in everything.

I have hope

This is the only way I see that happening.

Calm down dude. I can be unhappy and your comparison can be wrong at the same time.

He has two more playoff wins than rivers.

Good thing this is not happening. Here we go with the magical never happens except to the bills stats.

McCarthy blows. That would be a downgrade.