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Pittman is a good fit for the Bills with his size and is also a good blocker. 2nd round they might have to move up to get him. I like that pick for them. Justin Jefferson, WR for LSU is another player that is similar. Really good class of WRs. Even someone like Joe Reed from UVA in the very late rounds or as a UDFA would be a good depth player because of his kick return abilities and has good hands and speed. Van Jefferson, UF is another guy that is a good WR that will be available in the mid to late rounds that is the son of an NFL WR coach and former player, Shawn Jefferson. The Bills can address the need at WR throughout the draft. For that reason they may want to pick what will be harder to come by when they have the opportunity. I think they need another solid OL player, a Edge rusher, and depth at RB and QB outside of WR. I think the Bills should pick an OL in the first three rounds, especially if they can get Mekhi Becton, T, Louisville. Play him at RT to get his feet wet in the NFL and move Ford inside. I'm even fine with them taking him in the first round, but that may be a bit high. In the later rounds the Bills could add some depth on Offense IMO - Watched the Orange Bowl and Bryce Perkins QB, UVA really impressed with his pocket presence, ability to throw under pressure, and ability to read the defense; LaMichael Perine, RB, UF also demonstrated why he is an underrated prospect that struggled behind a crappy run blocking OL, but broke several explosive plays during the season. Jonathan Greenard, UF is also a 2nd-3rd round prospect at DE that is just a smart player, a leader, and has great pass rushing moves and doesn't ever give up on plays. I watch a lot of SEC games and UF games so I know their players better than other conferences. I think CJ Wilson at corner is way overhyped as a first round CB. He misses assignments a lot and it lead to many big plays against their D, and he didn't fare well against more physical receivers. A Freshman came in and played for him in the Orange Bowl and it was a drastic improvement - although that Freshman is likely going to be a huge star in his own right being a very highly ranked recruit. Zuniga, DL is also going to get a lot of hype and be drafted high, but he is constantly injured, commits a lot of penalties, and is overaggressive on the edge leading to good OL easily taking him out of plays. This is how I know that how people rank prospects is not based on good enough information sometimes - and I get it, its hard to watch all of these teams closely. I wouldn't touch either Wilson or Zuniga. I think they are great athletes, but not great players.

The Bills move the ball consistently with Allen, but not saying he doesn’t have room for improvement. Allen is very close to being a very good starting QB if he can improve a little more with presnap reads and getting the ball out faster - which I think is coming. The accuracy is always going to be a thing that rears it’s head in my opinion but he just needs to improve a little bit there. I wasn’t a big fan of drafting him but he is far better than his stats suggest as a passer and is a far better QB than Barkley because of his pocket presence, his ability to extend drives and plays with his feet and his ability to make throws Barkley can’t. He’s also a leader that the team gets behind and follows. If Allen were turning the ball over a lot still you might have a better argument about Barkley, but you can see Barkley’s limitations as a passer and lack of pocket presence and how that impacts the offense and his effectiveness. For all of his yards how many points did the Bills put on the board.

Rookie is the best option and I agree. Bryce Perkins from UVA would be a great pick for a backup development QB. Watched him in the orange bowl and seems to be have a very similar skill set to Josh without the cannon arm, but great feel for pocket and ability to throw in and out of pocket and while under pressure. I was very impressed with him versus a tough D. Will likely be a 4th or 5th rounder. Wow. The dude is a turnover machine and mistake prone. Allen may not pile up stats but is more effective.

Snyder made his money through highly questionable means, alienated one of the strongest fan bases in the sport, and is just generally not a good person that looks to exploit everything he can. I'd say Snyder because of the damage he has caused. https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/sports/article/21066973/happy-20th-anniversary-dan-snyder-washington-fans-are-not-cheering Haslam just bought a franchise that wasn't doing much well and has done worse than his predecessors. But both are pretty bad.

McDaniels has been a proven failure as a HC and like Todd Haley - is way too full of himself and it permeates into the locker room as a guy that is going to blame you before he blames himself.

For sure the D played the biggest part in the loss, but bad tackling was only part of the story. They could have played better, but the Bills were getting held like crazy on every play. It was egregious that the Patriots didn't get called once. Not saying they couldn't have played better at all, but there was a reason that a much-maligned OL was all of the sudden all-star caliber at blocking when it hadn't been all year. I'm pretty sure that's what Jordan Phillips' personal foul was about near the goal line. He'd had enough and let his frustrations out. I commend the Bills on not losing it before then, despite numerous chances to let the Pats get under their skin - Brady grabbing Oliver's leg as he's walking by. Edelman talking crap and then playing possum like he was concussed after committing offensive pass interference and trying to draw a flag for unnecessary roughness (at least they called it against the Pats). A couple of DL staying on top of Allen well after the play was over on numerous occassions, the worst being the one where it looked like the DL was actually preventing him from getting up by pinning him to the ground. The Bills will store this one away and are not intimidated, and I really don't think the Pats can take them again if they meet. The Pats lack sportsmanship - that's why as good as Brady and Belicheat are, nobody really likes them - they're arrogant and dirty and to be honest it's why everybody wants to see them beat (not just Bills fans).

Deep class and I hadn't even watched Omar Bayless play though I'd seen a few highlights here and there. He's pretty impressive, not a great blocker, but great hands, explosive and shifty.

Agreed. It's a hard position to get right sometimes and you saw Whaley and Nix really struggle to find a good WR even though they spent a ton of picks on them. Woods was probably their best pick, but TJ Graham and Marquise Goodwin were terrible picks and they way overspent on Watkins (and a lot of us knew it at the time too). The Bills need to hold steady at WR in this draft they could land two really good players at the position without having to even pick one in the first round.

I like Pittman a lot too. I'd want him over Shenault to be honest. Good at adjusting to the ball and strong runner after the catch. Reminds me of Andre Reed.

Barnwell is slowly coming to terms with the Bills actually being good, and the same can be said of some of the skeptics in the fan base as well. I'm not really a fan of his dry and often misguided analyses based on looking at certain stats as predictors rather than used in context to explain what happened in a game. For instance the stupid QBR metric is clearly not a measure of good QB play, but instead just an indicator of a type of QB play that is not really good at determining anything meaningful.

Funny thing is this a deep WR class but not likely to produce a lot of elite superstar WRs in my opinion, where the most successful ones will not necessarily be Jeudy, Lamb or Higgins. I think Higgins has trouble creating separation in his routes and isn’t very crisp in running them. Jeudy had the benefit of other stud WRs on the field with him that created far less attention on him than if he was the guy way better than the others. I’m not saying these guys aren’t good, but the Bills can wait and will have a chance at getting someone that checks the boxes they are looking for. You know they will be looking for a culture guy anyway that does all the things they expect like work hard to improve all facets of their game, is smart, and is a good person and teammate. There will be guys in the 2nd and 3rd round like Gabriel Davis (UCF) and guys very late in the draft like Van Jefferson (UF) whose father was NFL player and coach (btw Jonathan Greenard would be an absolute steal if the Bills have a chance in the 2nd round at DE - he has great technique, is a leader and is a really smart player)

That was actually the most upsetting ref call of the game. The flag was thrown after the back was already down and was probably the fishiest call of all of them. It felt as if it were thrown exactly for the purpose of giving the steelers an extra TO and a better chance to tie the game up.

Sure but he didn't come through in the Browns game this year which was very costly, and has been shaky pretty much all year. I like him, but like someone earlier in the thread stated - kicking in the NFL is all about making them because it means points every time you step on the field for a FG or PAT. Missing a good deal from 50+ isn't such an issue, but missing PATs and kicks less than 40 yds away is. And he is missing both. He should be the first one to recognize he needs to get better.

Great call to believe in what McDermott and Beane were doing. I'm still superstitious about getting too excited about them to be honest - irrational most likely, but there is an entire psychology of being a Bills fan that has you questioning everything until proven otherwise. Maybe part of it is that the Coaches are growing into their roles as well - I think that is what happens with coaches as well as players. It's a really neat thing to watch and it has us all imagining things we haven't had the luxury of thinking about for a long time as Bills fans - like coaches and players that are having a really good season and just starting to wonder how much better it could and may be.

Great win. The Cowboys are very talented, especially on Offense. Although, you don't get to 6-6 because everything is copacetic. The Bills are the better team, although they may not have the top shelf "established" talent, but they did some things to establish that they are very talented as well. I was very much in the "Oh boy! Here we go again." after the first drive by the Cowboys (penalties and run D were very frustrating to watch), but then the Bills settled down and turned the whole thing around like very good teams do. The Bills are hitting their stride and we can only hope that they continue to pick up momentum over the next couple of weeks. Going 2-1 over the next three would be a very good outcome, but I know a lot of us are thinking why not 3-0? I'm starting to think that as well, but this is a young team and this is a very tough stretch of games. They are certainly capable of it, but they've got to continue getting better to do it. Whatever they do, this has been a pretty fun ride so far, and I think this team is really going to be a good team for a while. I've openly questioned what McDermott and Beane were doing in the first 2 years, but I will have to concede that they certainly look like they had a plan that they knew they could execute and are starting to reap the rewards of their investments. They have been focused on building a team that is more than a collection of talent - a collection of talent doesn't work very well in the NFL as has been demonstrated time after time. I was critical of what I perceived as missteps by Beane and McDermott (not that they haven't had them, but all coaches and GMs do) - but in moving out those that had talent but didn't fit the vision, they appear to be creating something special. I guess as Bills fans we've seen the rebuild before and we just didn't want it to be a tear down that turns into a failed rebuild with a Coach and GM being desperate to keep their jobs doing whatever they can to push off the inevitable. They've got a young core that still has a lot to prove, but they are starting to prove it. Dallas was one of those prove it games. The next 3 are as well. The Ravens are the biggest challenge that you can have and if they play well and somehow take them down -watch out. The Bills are built to handle mobile QBs with their team speed on D, but the Ravens also run it right at you with toughness as well. If they can neutralize the running game between the tackles and have their own success on Offense it may be a very entertaining game. I know McDermott and Frazier are looking at this one and are capable of creating some issues for the Ravens but will be happy to have a couple of extra days to game plan.

Lots of options in the draft. I like Justin Jefferson from LSU, Tee Higgins from Clemson and Terry from FSU - WRs that go after the ball with body control and size. The kind of guys that move the chains and can make contested catches. The draft isn't full of blazing speed WRs(there are a few), but it is deep with good solid WR prospects. DaVonte Smith could also be one of those guys who is a solid choice in the 2nd or 3rd round and is pretty good route runner and runner after the catch.

Tie Breakers definitely favor Pats if they have the same record as Bills - unless they drop one to the Bengals or Dolphins. I just don't see that happening. I do think it is possible that they lose to both the Chiefs and Bills. But that means the Bills would have to run the table to win the division. A tough task, but who knows.

Bruce Lee is smiling somewhere. He always said to be like water and that he didn't believe in any particular style because they limited growth.

I thought they really stuck with the run game against Denver, even when it seemed like only 1 in 3 designed run plays was successful to start the game. That eventually changed as the carries mounted, but I think that they need to stick with it like they did on Sunday, as long as they are moving the chains. Now how and from what formations they run is more of my issue, but I like what I saw on Sunday as opposed to earlier in the year. I think they saw a weakness they could exploit with the Broncos run D and they committed to it. I do like that Daboll is adaptive, but there is a fine line between doing what you do well and doing something to exploit a weakness regardless of whether it is something you typically do (or can do). Sometimes I feel like they try to adapt too much to the other team and that has gotten them into trouble. Sometimes they get away from what is working because of what the defense is doing. Sometimes you can still do what you want despite the opponent trying to stop it the best way they can. I guess it is a philosophy of be adaptive because you need to be against the team that can stop you. I'm kind of torn on how you play it, but I can see why they do what they do. Maybe as Josh and the Offense get more cohesive and prolific you worry a little less about cat & mouse games and impose your will the way you want.

Yeah very interesting game between the 49ers and Ravens - two of the frontrunners going at it. It'll be interesting to see how the 49ers DL plays against the Ravens, because Aaron Donald was completely neutralized last night and the Ravens had their way with the Rams D, which is pretty good. Roman knows how to coach mobile QBs and build a strong offense around them, and Jackson may be the best one he's ever had (although this looks eerily like Colin Kaepernick's break out year). The Bills are definitely in the mix as a solid playoff team, but we are about to find out a lot about them over the next 5 games. I think that they go 3-2 over that stretch - I think they most likely beat the Steelers, Cowboys and Jets, and most likely lose to the Ravens and Pats. 11-5 sounds pretty good to me and about right.

On initial reaction most people wouldn't consider the Bills to be on par with Chiefs, because the Chiefs have that explosive Offense with a lot of top notch talent on that side of the ball. Here's the thing - they are not really anything more than a good passing offense with a mediocre to below avg running game, and a below avg defense. They are pretty one dimensional, and they are great at that one dimension, but it's why they have 4 losses and will likely be a 3rd or 4th seed accumulating a couple more losses before the end of the season. By comparison the Bills are everything that the Chiefs aren't - a strong running game, a strong defense, and a passing game that is mediocre to below avg. But that passing game isn't necessarily bad, it's just limited and short on big plays. The Bills are a more balanced team from top to bottom than the Chiefs, but they don't have the Pats D or the Chiefs O. The Bills' balance makes them dangerous to play because you have to beat them in so many facets, but it also means the Bills' have to play well in all facets to have a chance to beat good teams. After watching the Ravens dismantle the Pats and Rams - I'm pretty sure they are the best team in the NFL right now, but there is still some time to go and things change in the NFL pretty fast.

Yeah he is showing poise and patience - I think Josh is on a slower trajectory than some QBs who have become pretty darn good in their first few years, but I think it will lead to a more reliable foundation for him to be a very good QB if the progress continues. But that's okay, because this team is growing together and they are getting better and learning to trust each other as they grow. I think Josh was a perfect fit for the city and the organization - a good balance of modesty and swagger, smart, hard-working, and team-first guy. He had me take notice against the Vikings and then at the end of the season last year I was pretty convinced it was the right pick, despite my initial reaction that it was a really poor pick during the draft. I liked Lamar Jackson a lot out of the group and thought he was as good a prospect as anybody, but didn't really like Darnold or Rosen. I liked Mayfield, but thought he might be more of a system guy than people thought and I think that is still right. I think he is about as good as he is going to be with a little improvement, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I don't see his ceiling as being very high. I'm not sure how good Jackson would be without his staff selling out on what Lamar can do well (which isn't a knock on him, but instead is really good coaching and player development). Both Jackson and Allen are fortunate that they got drafted by the teams that they did. As for the team as a whole. I think that they are a well coached team that puts the concept of team front and center and I think they have the right players for that, and those types of teams are dangerous as they gain confidence. I think the 4 best teams in the AFC are all well coached - Patriots, Ravens, Chiefs and Bills. I think the Colts are well coached too, but I don't think they are talented enough to overcome their injuries and the void left by Luck and I think the more talented Texans likely beat them out for the South, although I don't think that they are particularly well coached (Bill O'Brien is severely overrated in my opinion). I see the AFC as a 4 team race and the Bills are about on par with the Chiefs when you look at a sum of the parts, and the Ravens and Pats are a notch above but also flawed enough to lose to any of the other three teams. The Ravens may be the most complete team, the Pats have the best D, the Chiefs have the best O, and the Bills have a very complete team that is a bit short on top level talent with a few exceptions. I think the Pats are too dependent on their D and their Offense will cost them at some point - a team that is physical and runs it at the Patriots can beat them. Their teams have always been very balanced, and I think that it could haunt them that they are not this year.

I hope that they continue playing like this. This is how good teams have to play - step up the performances as the season progresses. It's the time of year that teams either start falling apart or start jelling. It looks like they are jelling, but we will find out more over the next few weeks. I wasn't a fan of the pick when they moved up for Allen - I think I had been beaten down by so many bad picks over the years that I didn't trust "the process", especially after they passed on picking a QB in the Mahomes and Watson draft - and I really liked Mahomes (disclaimer: I didn't ever think he'd be a 1st rounder and thought he would be there in the 2nd). I absolutely knew Manuel was a joke of a pick when they made it - I watched just about every one of his college games and never saw anything that looked like a pro QB other than his size. So not having watched Josh play much, but watching some plays I was pretty sure the Bills were falling in love with potential rather than anything that was tangible. I think that they did fall in love with Josh's potential, but this staff and organization knew how they were going to groom him and saw things that they knew how to coach up - things that EJ didn't have and a staff that knew what to do to groom a young QB. Has it always been pretty - NO. I think they were looking pretty incompetent at the beginning of the season last year - but they just wanted to be able to ride with a guy that they hoped could play and might even garner some value if he played decent in Peterman. That was a poor plan, but they didn't have much to lose with the roster they had last year. Now they have a guy coming into his own, albeit slowly but with a lot of confidence and still learning. Yesterday was another step for Josh and the offense with that no huddle they ran - that was honestly a great showing and very encouraging. Especially coming out on the first two drives and moving the ball right down the field after being pinned deep both times. This set the tone for the game - we are coming at you and we don't think you can stop what we are doing. For the most part that is exactly what happened and had those FGs been touchdowns - the game could have gotten very ugly for the Broncos fast. A few weeks ago I said I saw a good team that hadn't tapped it's potential - now we are starting to see it.

The dropoff at WR from Beasley and Brown has been huge. Roberts and McKenzie are just not good WRs unless you utilize them in bubble screens and very short routes that tries to utilize them in space. You can really see how bad they are at running routes if you watch the all 22 - sometimes they slow down not realizing that they are being targeted, misjudge the ball while it is in flight, or just don't run crisp routes. Daboll is being very un-Patriot like in not utilizing them at what they are best at. Last year they used McKenzie the way they should have in the passing game - this year the only thing of note he does is run the shuttle pass sweep. Foster has been inactive and he's definitely not clicking with Allen for whatever reason, but I've seen him misjudge a couple of throws pretty badly. I like what he did last year, but whatever they had working last year they are not going back to or it just simply isn't working - I don't really know. Williams has played a decent role when he gets a chance - I like his ability to be a big target but for some reason he doesn't get much opportunity - maybe he is just not getting enough separation, but at least he is a threat. This one is a head scratcher for me, because he is probably the only guy outside of Knox that can win a contested throw, which is especially nice in the redzone. Is Allen to blame for some of this? Sure - if something isn't working everyone is playing a part in it. But I really think Daboll is the guy that it starts with and you can go from there. Expecting him to get better may be expecting too much tbh. He is going to do what he has done in some way and I don't expect him to have an epiphany and morph into an excellent OC over the rest of the season or next, etc. He's okay - he's not the worst, but they could do better, and they could do worse.

The Bills need better playmakers and more touches and snaps for the ones on the roster that might be. They don't have a guy that is great at body control at WR that they suit up regularly. John Brown and Cole Beasley are decent receivers but not a 1 and 2. The other guys like Roberts and McKenzie don't adjust and track the ball in the air very well - this is part of the issue with the deep balls BTW. It's a large part on Josh but not entirely but I've seen the WRs slow down or adjust their route late on these deep balls to then see them sail over them and thinking to myself that could have connected had the WR continued running at top speed. I get that the ball placement could have been off and caused it, but deep threat WRs make a living tracking these down. They don't have a RB that is a big play waiting to happen that the give the ball to enough. Singletary doesn't get enough touches and they need to utilize him in the screen game more. They could also use a better option than Gore as the change up RB. Yeldon is a fumbler but is a good option in the passing game. I like Gore and think he is a tough runner, but he isn't going to juke, run over, or electrify - he's a grinder.