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Now just to be sure we ARE on the same page. In math, what is more? 3 or 1 ?

Yes EJ cost the 16th pick as part of the 16 46 222 package.

EJ as part of the 16 46 222 package.

and it was EJ as part of the 16 46 222 package.

yes.

Yes. He announced live on tv for all the world to see except you missed it. He stated Bills and Rams traded #8 for #16 46 and 222.

EJ as part of package of 16 46 and 222.

EJ as a part of package of EJ, Kiko, Gragg.

EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, cost ONE 1st round pick. There is your reality.

I give you Vaccaro at 15 or EJ package. Who gets more players?? Bills do, they get 3 players Saints get 1. Aside from whiffing on EJ as a pick. Bills got better value. I have not ever argued that pick 16 was not a first round pick. IT is PART of a PACKAGE so has different value.

not unless he was traded for multiple picks.

Yes they were both 1st round picks. But since EJ was a part of a 3 pick package EJ cost much less than a first round pick. for the 8th pick Bills received EJ KiKo and Gragg. for the 15th pick Saints received K Vaccaro. what is greater 3 or 1 ? ?? Kenny Vaccaro was not part of a trade so he cost 100% of a #15 1st round pick. EJ only cost a portion of his draft positon.

Pick 8 was traded for pick 16 46 and 222. Therefor pick 16 was worth less than a first round pick if you want to try and assign value for that 1/3 of the package when evaluating the trade and the pick.

No one.

pick#16 was part of package of, pick 16, pick 46, and pick 222, 3 players, EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, were picked with pick #8 Can not separate them for assigning value now as they are intertwined due to trade. Pick#8 is worth pick#16, 46, 222.(that is why they assign point values for every draft pick in every round) pick 16 is now inside a package of picks 16,46,222. If you must assign a value it would be approx. 70% pick 16, 25% pick 46 , and 5% pick 222. That is why cost of EJ at pick 16 cost less than a 1st round pick.

3 players, EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, were picked with pick #8.

No this is not accurate. EJ did not cost Bills the 16th pick. The 16th pick is a package of 16th pick in 1st round and and the Kiko pick and the Gragg pick. Bills got EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, for the 8th pick. If Bills stood pat and drafted EJ at pick 8 then yes he only cost pick 8. Since they multiplied the value of pick 8 into 3 picks the cost of EJ is spread out over the 3 picks. EX: I have a house for sale for 100k, someone buys it for 100k. It cost the new buyer 100k for that house. To sweeten the deal I toss in my like new truck worth 25k and my John Deere lawn tractor worth 5k. That house now did not put him out 100k. He is only out 70k. Which is less than the 100k which is on the deed that the city assessor says he paid for it. EX: I buy a box of laundry detergent for $20 and get 2nd box free on promo sale. The first box cost less than $20 as i get 2nd box also. Even though receipt says I pd $20 for that first box. EX: Carolina Panthers are selling for approx. 2 billion. Reports are this includes ownership of stadium. The franchise then does not cost 2 billion. It must be broken down to a split between franchise and stadium.

I know I am out there with this thinking and I understand if you or anyone else think I am bat **** crazy but stay with me for a sec. They got EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, for Bills original first round draft pick that year, #8 1st round. So EJ did not cost a 1st round pick as they got 3 players instead of one. For Bills original 8th pick they got EJ, Kiko, and Gragg.

sorry fixed the woods mistake. It was Kiko Alonso not Eric Wood. He cost less than a 1st because they got EJ, Kiko Alonso, and Gragg, for their 1st round pick. If they did not do the trade they would have just had EJ. So EJ effectively cost less than a 1st as Bills multiplied its value by the trade returns.

I am glad you did not have a hand in WWII.

To be fair. One is only one. How long could it last? So if they would have used something like "It starts with 89,905" it would still be on.

You know Incognito committed to playing in 2018 before he went off the rails. We just misconstrued what he meant by the term "playing" at the time of his tweets. If that is not a sign of some weird scientology-esqu Howard Hughes type living in an abandoned mansion/hotel watching movies type ****, nothing does. Bat **** crazy concussed brain is failing. http://people.com/sports/tom-brady-gisele-camel-riding/

If Bills had just used a first round pick for EJ then Bills would have spent ONE 1st round pick to get EJ and would only have EJ. Instead they traded back by giving up ONE Bills 1st round pick in exchange for ONE 1st round pick later in round 1, ONE pick in 2nd round, ONE pick in 7th round. They then picked EJ with the later pick in 1st, center Eric Wood in 2nd, TE Gragg in 7th. This means EJ did not cost Bills a first round pick because they received a 2nd and a 7th for trading back. Meaning he cost less than a 1st round pick.(as an added bonus his contract was significantly reduced due to being picked later in round)(in fact that savings likely paid for most/all of Eric Woods deal) If they stayed with original pick they would only have had EJ to show for that pick. Since they traded back they had EJ, E Wood, and Gragg, to show for that 1st round pick. I know it is semantics and hard to wrap our head around but in reality by trading back and acquiring more players EJ cost less than a single first round pick. Both on draft capital and player salaries. Update: my error. Kiko Alonso was the pick not Eric Wood.

I heard gronk wears a protective helmet all the time to prevent brain damage.........ohh wait...nevermind.

yeah whatever you do don't tell us anything douche bag media attention deficit whore.