Patrick Duffy

Legal issues aside, Watson was a decent QB, but I was never quite as high on him as some others were and it remains to be seen how he performs after the time off. That being said, I never viewed him as a QB who would "worry me", (I guess is the term) few years ago and even less now considering the time off and no Hopkins etc. I will acknowledge that he may be an improvement over Baker, but when there's anything starting to go half decent for them it seems Browns WILL FIND a way to ***** it up Lol. I thought it was rough being a Bills fan, but ya got us beat. I feel bad for Browns fans sometimes because they have had opportunities and everything in place to be a really good team only to be ruined by management/FO/owner.....

Murphy McSmooth

imo I think that and couple other things might have played a big part in him leaving, one with L.A being basically by his hometown probably made the decision a little easier. Also he possibly didn't have confidence in Bills QB, which I can understand because it was really bad. Obviously I don't know for sure, but can see why it would be a factor in the decision.

We never get 2 shiny new toys, we only allowed one per decade....

Lol, yeah guess I kinda did....worded that all jacked up. Was trying to say I think he plays and won't hold out basically lol

Lol, yeah Browns put themselves in this situation for sure. They pretty much had to deny it since their plan blew up. I guess they figure they will try an smooth things over at some point and sweet talk Baker with some BS lol

I assume you didn't see Hines Ward much?? Woods is a good blocking WR, but not like Ward was. Considering who the QB was I can see why lol

You keep talking about the one KC game which was a game that was all high octane offense that neither Bills or KC's defense could not stop each other. If that's how you rate a player going by 1 game and not knowing Dane's individual stats so you just use the final stats of KC's offense as a whole then I can't take you serious. There were 7 other games he did pretty well in, but you're not acknowledging those for some reason....

Ok, well my mistake...but still my point stands, he did very well at CB2 those games in Tre's absence...so no reason to think it will be any different at CB2 next season

Dude, first of all you're implying the stats you listed as if 378yds etc was all done on Dane which could not be more silly. Secondly, I CLEARLY was talking about every game since Thanks Giving when he came in for Tre. Lastly, every CB playing against Mahomes has a hard time, Tre was CB1 and he took his spot right....

Not sure if that's the case..imo they believe he has more and will keep him around a bit longer. You know how they are with 2nd round picks lol, like Ford, one would think they know what they have in him....but he's still there and still pretty bad

I disagree, I think absolutely they could. I mean they were a ***** hair from getting there with him at CB1. No reason to believe he couldn't perform just as well or better at CB2 as he just showed at CB1

Well he's understandably upset but I think he will have no choice but to play. Unless he's pissed enough to hold out.

Lol, shhhiiiiyyyyt, don't think anyone would be interested in trading for him at the moment.

Lol, obviously top priority for Bengals, no surprise there. But man the Browns are a real piece of work....I imagine their fans emotions are all over the place. In one hand, they probably like, "knew it wouldn't take long for Browns to screw everything up again"..... Then maybe , "one decent season getting to 2nd round of playoffs giving just a small taste of success and finally future looks bright was too much" It was tough being a Bills fan for along time, but man the Browns may be worse for sure at this point lol Hang in there Browns fans!!

Ah ok. Don't know why I was thinking it was Mayock... Thanks

Unfortunately I was also...however I will say I'm happy to admit I wasn't as bad as many because I had Allen 2nd when many had Rosen at #1 or Darnold lol. I had Allen above Darnold and Rosen. In any event, so many had it wrong from fans to majority of media. Mayock(?) I believe it was was one of the few that was high on Allen

You're not alone mane...

I make it a point and try my best to not buy a damn thing made in China lol. Anything that I want to last for more than a couple days anyways lol

Yeah one of the best at his position and getting 3rd down catches. Just seemed he wasn't the same when all that stuff happened. It's like he just lost a bit of fire or something and didn't have the same excitement as before or didn't have same amount of heart in it. IDK, that's just my opinion

Wonder how many are ordering his jersey today....or first minute available if it's too early right now

I'm not sure, but I don't know if there's a vet available that is "proven" enough to be no more than average at best. Like I said though, don't know what will become available later. Guess it depends on what extent one considers "proven" to be. Main point being I'm not sure a vet CB (that's available at this time) is proven enough that would make them not take a CB early

Agree, writing is on the wall. That is why I was quoting in a different thread where some posted about drafting WR in 1st round. Anything can happen between now and then, but I think it's a little more likely they go CB in round 1 instead WR. Also to add ,WR's seem to be a deep class this year.

Seems as if that's only thing they went by...

I think they do both....draft a CB and bring another that's available.