Patrick Duffy

In regard to the bold, just wanted to point out that while you are certainly correct, the first year Josh was playing with the worst group of WR's I think Bills may have ever had. The OL was an issue also, however I don't think the OL was nearly as big of an issue as the down right awful pass catchers were. 2nd year obviously was good improvement, due to upgrade with J. Brown and Beasley. Actually had a couple reliable WR's he could count on. Anyways, just wanted to point out that Murray not only had Hopkins, their WR's were pretty decent outside of Hopkins. As far as Tua goes, he had a solid group of WR's also. He just wasn't very good last season.

Yeah, at least we are getting down to some action here really soon. Less than 2 months preseason, TC right around the corner. And if you're in your 40's like me or older, time flies fast. So those 2 months or so will be here before we know it.

I would guess T. Hill or T. Kelce. Could also see them going with K. Murray or Hopkins. I would guess one of those 4 as front runners, but will be revealed soon. When's the last time a Defensive player was on it? I haven't played in a very long time. Last D player I can remember is Ray Lewis. Not sure if anyone on D made the cover since then.

He did better than I was expecting tbh. I knew he was a big threat running, but he threw better than I expected he would.

You're right it doesn't mean anything in general terms, however it's definitely concerning if you're a Fins fan when he is throwing 5 INT's during 7 on 7 with no rush or anyone in his face. Not many INT's happen during 7 on 7 with any QB, certainly not 5. First I have ever heard of a QB throwing that many during a 7 on 7 drill. But yes, you are correct it doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it for sure isn't something to disregard.

Lol, Was that the season that Fred Jackson had that run against the Bears and just embarrassed their S? Think it was but not 100% sure. Anyways, I don't consider anything in that season or any other drought years a defining moment myself. But that Fred Jackson run surely got my blood pumping that day...

Lol, of course it's in Florida.....and no, hard pass....

Wow, be interesting to see how this plays out....

Yeah if I remember correctly Whaley wasn't too high on EJ. I don't recall the exact words, or situation, but think he didn't really want EJ starting or whatnot. Think I remember it was kinda an issue with someone kinda forcing it ( I guess you could say) because he was a 1st round pick. I don't recall the details, but I agree with you he wasn't an EJ fan, or it didn't seem that way.

I didn't sugar coat it, and I did call it what it was. I said they whooped the Bills on both sides the ball. I was agreeing with you dude 😳

Ok thanks, I have never had the pleasure of attending TC. So wasn't sure.

I'm sorry,I just got a chuckle out of this for some reason. Anyway, Just for the record and my 2 cents, I guess one could say Chiefs didn't destroy Bills as far as looking at the final score, but they basically had their way with the Bills nearly the whole game. In the AFCCG, directly after Chiefs muffed the punt return and Bills only got 3 points off it, they whooped Bills up and down the field on both sides of the ball. Was rather disappointing.....but hopefully Bills have learned and can take them down this go round., because I assure you they will be the team to beat (without any major injuries) to get to the Super Bowl.

Scar face, Wedding Crashers off top of my head

You can't go with family at OBD to watch like you could at SJF?Just curious because I really don't know....

Beane has had his share of bad decisions and likely could have done more at first with some of the pretty decent players that was left for him after Whaley/Rex and co. departed. Not sure how much confidence some of those players had in going forward with Bills seeing how things went to downhill so bad. Myabe that could have played a part in him re-doing the roster the way they did. I don't know, but they also wanted their own guys and whatnot..In any event, the biggest thing that makes Beane is Josh Allen. And will always be Josh Allen for the most part. But still, I give him credit though, he has done a very good job between he and coach MCD with changing culture/etc and have created a very tough team to beat.

imo the EJ pick was on both of them since both Nix/Whaley were the ones with the most power at that time as far as the draft goes. Anyways, that class was a downright awful QB class. None of the QB's in that class should have been picked before the 5th round, and that statement is not hindsight for me. I was never a believer in Geno myself....especially EJ. Although I could/can see why a team would have more likely taken a shot by with Geno. Still wouldn't have picked him no where near the 1st or 2nd round. Back then I could see using a 3rd at best. But EJ man, lol.....I for sure didn't like that pick. Especially in the 1st round. I get Bills were desperate for a QB in those days and understand wanting to take a swing due to the QB,s were (imo one of the worst, if not the worst) classes maybe ever. But was really bad to use a 1st rounder on him. Anyways, glad those days are over. Water under the bridge now. I'd go through it all again knowing Bills got a player like Josh Allen.

Davis same as Diggs. Didn't think he was quite as fast....impressive.. Wonder if Devin S. got any faster with the way he looks much stronger....

Yeah that's what it looked like to me also.....

Yeah it's mostly at times he is trying to make a move or bigger play a little too quick before he has a good hold on the ball. He can get extra tough yards and bull doze players at times. Love that part of his game. But yeah, dude just got to make sure the ball is secure 1st.

I for sure think we haven't seen his peak yet. I think he gets even better. Only "hurdle" for him imo is making smarter decisions at times and he will, since he will be learning even more. Far as the crowd thing goes, I'm in the crowd that's not concerned with that one single bit (and don't get why some are concerned as much as they are about this). I mean the playoffs had fans, obviously playoffs are going to be tougher games anyways. The crowd/fans aspect simply has nothing to do with his play imo as far as him regressing, or the notion he played well because of no fans.

Well I'm with you on this...Not saying he doesn't ever draw double teams but it's definitely not as much as some make it out to be. I don't dislike Star or anything like that, to me only thing is the amount of $$ he is getting. I just think he's not worth that much. But anyways.....hopefully he will surprise coming off missing a season. Will see soon enough.

Now that guy I'd say is at higher risk of heart/health problems. Doubt he would work out...🤪

Lol,I mean if you're going to pick Dak over Allen, then that's fine....but damn you got to have a better argument than that silly ***** he just spewed. Lol That was something else I tell ya

I'm in NC. Did mine electronically also...mine also says still processing. If you owe them though they want that ***** quick lol

Still waiting on mine too. Filed Jan 27th. Frustrating.