Patrick Duffy

Probably more based on their improved play last quarter or so of the season. And yeah there's hoping for sure

Can't really argue with you here, that said he also had the benefit of being developed by one of the best. I'm sure that contributed to some extent.

Just to jump in here briefly to say that's certainly the way I remember it happened, now jumping out

Probably also was almost like protection didn't exist for Josh.

Lol, I recall vividly that very play so much that out of all the MANY times back then I would shake my head in disgust yelling WTF, this however is one that I recall specifically for some reason

Yeah it does kinda seem like he is brought up a bit more than other QBs from the past. Maybe some haven't moved on yet for some reason

Lol, such a familiar thing a whole lot of us went through and is likely the main thing if not the only thing that first comes to mind when his name is mentioned

Yup, not complicated at all simply just comparing only the performance between both of them. Even though Fitz and the INTs was frustrating he still was a gun slinger and a more exciting QB.

First I wasn't referring to him rushing, I was talking out the backfield type passes with his speed if getting him into space..... that being said, I'll still address your question, he is also a threat as KR/PR so that plays into it. He won't have very many opportunities rushing anyways unless injuries become a big factor but certain issues like the screen game etc type plays is clearly an area Bills need to figure out. If they do that then he has the speed that as you said any one of "20 UDFAs" may not have. Well yeah, you don't take touches from Cook. I'm saying if he rotates in once in a while or maybe ends up getting more opportunities due to injury and can catch the ball with just a little bit of room he could definitely make some plays

Lol, imagine the amount of porn he gets paid to enjoy

Not sure I'd go quite that far lol.....I think he could do well with his speed if can ever get him the ball in space. And we know that's something that needs improvement getting each of the RBs involved. I mean I'm just saying I don't think he's hardly had nearly enough opportunities yet to know how useful or useless he is in this offense.

Lol, I enjoy the dedicated ones that refuse to base their logic off truth. It can get entertaining at times

Yeah I'd assume majority of us know it's nonsense and clearly Josh would never do such a thing. There's always someone though lol

I can understand to a certain extent where you're coming from about this. Although I do get the impression that you're not taking any other factors into consideration and only taking a single factor of just Josh for this issue. It's more that plays part for generally every issue and have to look at the whole thing. Things such as play calling, Oline protection issues, and drop off in WR talent (specifically the slot), elbow injury etc. It's more than just a Josh problem is my point.

That is of course is taught and is best thing to give one the best chance to survive, but could still not work sometimes

Oh wow!! Shocking to hear. Young man should've had much more life to live. Sad situation and hate to hear it

There are many that considered McNabb "elite" at that time (if that's around the time you mean)

Why wouldn't it continue to be pass first offense? I don't see that changing anytime soon

Yeah for sure he has to protect the ball a bit better and work on the fumbles. I tend to agree about finding certain players that may be open on some of those shorter routes etc and also just his overall decision making at times could be better.... But I think it mostly begins with Oline improvement (as you mentioned) with better protection and allowing a little more time in certain situations than he's had up til now, that likely would be one of the biggest factors needed for improvement in that area.

I do think the slot position will be better and have better depth compared to last season...in which case could help the other areas to an extent

Agree with you regarding Elam. He definitely performed much better last few games and I don't see how anyone would disagree. As for the screen game and Cook etc, It baffles me and kinda pisses me off sometimes really that it's now been (what is it about 4 years now?) and still can't get any kind of screen game going at all basically. I mean even some of the worst teams can manage to get somewhat near average success at times. Anyways, it's frustrating lol

I understand where you're coming from here and see your point. But how do you feel about the WR position now compared to last season? Do you feel at least a small improvement or about the same or worse?

I would think it'd be a bit less than you're assuming here in amount of reduction he'd have. I'd say it probably wouldn't get to point of a major issue (especially scoring a lot). And have heard quite often it's no big deal to Diggs because he just wants to win

Agree, one of those that start off good first part of season and got figured out fairly quickly Yeah, I'm not implying the concussion didn't factor at all, just that it was more to it

Many believe the (AZ game I think) when Edwards got his head rocked was the reason for his downfall. Although I believed it was more to it than that myself.