Scott7975

This is exactly how I feel about that one. I think he didn't take off and run because coaching is too much in his head about that. Even if they mean to just be smart and go oob, it's just one more thing in the back of Allen's head that he has to think about. They are trying too hard to coach Allen out of Allen. Maybe down the road Allen has that figured out and is smart about his running but at this point, it's just messing with his brain. I could see the confliction in his head in the preseason game. He went to take off to run but then hesitated. That hesitation led to him getting nailed. This stuff is going to get him hurt before him just being himself will get him hurt. I liked the comment at the end of the article I agree but I also think Davis ran a poor route.

But wouldn't smart football been conservative football and taking the 2 yards instead of the Ints against the Jets? He is said smart not conservative. Isn't aggressive the opposite of conservative and Josh was aggressive.

I'll give you thumbs up. I know what it's like to leave an opinion on something and have certain select people leave a bunch of "down vote" marks and then treat you like you just spoke sacrilege and are a moron. I don't agree with everything you said but I do with some it and have said some of it.

Someone translate please.

It's just my mindset bro. I dont actually believe they are all must win. I just don't want to be at the end of the season for the third year in a row wishing we would have just won that one more game... any of them and gotten the 1 seed. Also you kind of contradict yourself here. Your first two sentences indicate its kinda a must win. Hard to come back from 0-2. It's one of the easier games on the schedule. You follow that up with "IMHO its not a must win"

I'll hang up and listen 😃 Seriously, I like to hear everyones honest takes. I certainly give mine. Yeah, I like all of this post. Although on the run game part. I did not like the design. Too many times Cook off to the side for a delayed hand off. Josh would run all the way over to him and give him the ball. It was way too telegraphed and Cook had to start from a standstill.

Yeah I read an article on this today. Thats a pretty big complement from Belichick if he actually said that. I do believe Daboll is really smart and is a good coach.

As far as I am concerned, every game is a must win. If we are getting to the super bowl its by starting with the #1 seed. Too many good AFC teams. I'm not going to jump off a cliff when we lose some games, but that's my mindset.

Tough to say. I don't have game film and it could be Josh not going his way or Davis not being open. Even if it's Davis not being open is it his fault? I know that Int, like you said was part on him. Crap route. Also on his big catch, who was in the wrong place? I doubt the offense schemed two receivers that close together. I seen that a lot since last year too.

I think trusting the line will resolve itself. It's just an opinion but I believe Josh wasn't prepared for the speed of the game. It's been a while. Training camp and practice aren't going to run at that speed. Jets are fast and vicious.

Hmmm maybe. Jimmy G is also Jimmy Glass though. Potentially, he might not even make it out of this game lol.

Pace doesn't mean anything.

Early game, I think the correct call is to take the points. This wasn't a shootout game.

Was it though? Completion% maybe. Results I'd say no. Punt, Int, FG were the first 3 drives. Even on the TD drive they were behind the sticks and Josh needed to make big plays. The last drive again a FG because again we were behind the sticks.

Ya. Like I know they are trying to coach him up. I have no problem with them telling him to be smart and get oob instead of that 1 extra yard but I think they are saying more than that to him. It's like they want him to be a Brady but thats not what he is elite at. He isn't elite at precision. He isn't an elite processor of the field. We also don't have the players that get balls in stride and take off for another 8 yards. We have players and an offensive design that those guys find a spot, turn towards the QB and stop or they aren't getting separation so they are tackled right away. Sure, we might get the occasional few yards and even Diggs might get the occasional 8 extra yards, but more often than not the play ends where the ball is caught. Prime Beasley was that guy. Like probably those 13 points would have won us the Jets game but people want to see Josh check it down every time the pass goes wrong. That isn't going to win games against good offenses. That is going to stress defenses just as much because we are more likely to go 8 plays punt than to march down the field 3-5 yards a play. People think this 2 deep shell is something new happening to Josh and Mahomes. It isn't. They played two deep shell on Josh for years now. He has beaten it with his arm, skill position talent, and his legs. Prime Brown was better than Davis. Prime Beasley was better than the rest of the guys. This is why Josh has regressed. It isn't just some new defensive looks. It's the loss of speedy, smart talent and the coaching of Josh out of Josh. I'm not absolving Josh of this game. Clearly he had mental breakdowns and got frustrated as time went on. He also clearly doesn't trust this oline yet. I think this will get better though.

yeah that works for them because they have yac guys. We don’t.

The problem is the coaches for three seasons are trying to ingrain in him not to run the football, so he has conflicting voices in his head and that stops him from committing. They need to stop trying to coach Josh out of Josh. That heave to double covered diggs would have been a first down a season or two ago and the Jets D would have been demoralized. that wasn’t a designed run. Josh fumbled the ball because it was a designed quick pass to the right and he cheated and started looking right before the snap got to him.

I think he also wasn't used to the speed of the game and the Jets are a fast physical defense. It's week one and training camp doesn't give that to you. Tough defense to start the year with, with no work. Josh will be fine. He is always going to turn the ball over because he is going to take those chances. He needs to get back to doing that less often and also scoring more so it doesn't matter though. I mean people keep saying "take what the defense gives you." Yeah, to a certain extent, but that is also designed to stop you and did often. It's easier for KC to take what the defense gives you because those 3 yard passes get yac. Our guys don't do that. Our 3 yard passes are a guy thats turned around and stopped still or a guy that has no speed to separate so he is tackled immediately. Can't take check downs all game every game... thats what the defense is giving us. Those don't score points. They just turn into punts. People are going to complain every time they see that one guy 2 yards away because the downfield pass didn't work. Well the flipside is people are going to complain we are always punting too when the same downfield guy doesn't get thrown to. Go ahead and roll eyes, gimme the thumbs down and the big red checkmark but I'm not wrong.

I mean there is film on a ton of throws. Why you cross off safety? The safety is the guy that jumped the route. A better route and a better throw and it doesn't get jumped because Davis would be in position to not allow that. Sauce could just as easily jump Kincaid. He is closer to and already headed there. Maybe not intercept because of body position but definitely to break up the pass. Doesn't really matter that the Sauce abandoned Kincaid since at best he could have tackled Davis or pushed him oob after the catch.

If this was directed at me... I am sorry. What I said came off wrong. I have listened to his podcasts before. I just don't think telling me something without showing me is going to do me much good. It boils down to Allen had a bad game. We all know that. If I am driving in the car, I enjoy a good podcast. When I am home, I enjoy visual aids to learn something.

Yeah, my positives was the pass rush. Groot and Floyd were excellent. Imagine a healthy Von on top of that. Milano is still a beast. I thought Tre was good too despite the TD pass miraculous catch. The tackle attempt on Hall was a bummer though. Hard to really say how good our coverage is with Wilson at QB though. We shall see soon. I also think Kincaid will be a stud if Josh looks his way more. The short game overall looks there to be had if Josh takes it. Lastly, I think our line did pretty well considering the Jets front. Looked better than last season to me. Ok one last positive... it's just week 1. I am upset and disappointed but I am not freaking out or throwing in the towel.

Well they all smarter than I am. (Not sarcasm.) What I see though is Davis is not double covered. I believe Sauce is the trailing guy. He is actually headed towards Kincaid in this moment. There is a ton of space between Davis and the sideline. That throw should be there. Especially with a deep to shallow read. That would make Davis the first read... if the throw is there it would be taken. By the time he got back to him the route would be over. JMO. Yes this. Thank you.

Cool man. I dont mind people disagree with me. We all human and all have opinions. Just be civil. I'm happy to discuss

Yeah and my opinion is the read is fine. Davis should be open.