Personally I think Herbert is vastly over rated. I still think he is very good but not elite like everyone thinks. He makes a couple wow throws a game and thats about it. He has zero killer instinct, pretty much a statue QB with not much mobility and even when he does run he slides way short with no need to for fear of contact. He just aint it. Got talent but aint it. Outside of the two or three wow throws per game he has been pretty average at best.