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He was good enough to get 58 catches for just shy of 1000 yards with Brian Hoyer, Jimmy Garrapololololololol, and CJ Beathard as his QBs in SF the year after leaving Buffalo. He is better than Robert Foster who is what Allen had. His problem was he was made of glass. At the time we got him, he was one of the fastest receivers in the league which is great for a guy that can blaze a ball 50-60 yards with the flick of a wrist. I don't care that he wasn't a good route runner. With a QB like Allen all I need is for him to run streaks down the field and play decoy while Allen has two other very good receivers to throw to. He'd get some big plays too. As you are entitled to your opinion but no, it was a talented group. Watkins and Woods alone is a talented group. Way more talented than what Allen had in fat ass no effort Benjamine and Zay Jones who is decent now but not back then. As for Chandler he is about the same as Clay, who Allen had. I said he was a 500-600 yards guy. That isn't a stretch. He had 497, 655, and 571 yards. Thats exactly what I said... 500-600 yards. This whole argument was can he make the playoffs with Marrone and that group. Not about whether the group was world beaters. Yes, he makes the playoffs with that group. Marrone was one game shy of doing it with garbage at QB. (same record as McD just not the same Bengals luck) Allen makes that one game difference IMO.

probably. He has another article about 13 secs he wrote a while back but I haven’t read it yet. Wallace was just playing yesterday.

My first post stated that Goodwin was glass and not that great but he had speed and could catch. Perfect for Allen’s cannon. With Watkins and Woods that’s a decent trio. As for Chandler, also not great but a 500-600 yards per year guy. Jackson was still good. Spiller washed out but Gailey got good production out of him. you paint that as terrible. With an elite qb like Allen that is a decent crew.

There was. Maybe you missed my post Watkins, Robert Woods, Goodwin, Chandler, Jackson. Hell Spiller was on that team lol. Not a great back I know but Gailey got a lot out of him. Thats probably a better group than some of the crap Allen has had here. Even the oline was decent.

I can do that after I get back from taking my wife for xrays. GoBills808 listed the two i remember and they were mostly saying good things iirc.

actually there are some named sources. I'd have to go re-read the article but there were some players named.

I'd say definitely a playoff team with Allen. The Bills also had Robert Woods and Goodwin. Woods is a suberbowl winning WR and very good. Goodwin is a speedster that Allen probably would have lit up. Goodwin wasn't all thaaat good and made of glass but I still think with Allens cannon and his speed it would have been a pretty good connection. Also Chandler at TE who isn't great but a 500 yard guy. Not terrible. Pretty decent lineup if you ask me.

Yeah but I'm a rebel. I get that point of view I just don't want any excuses like last year "we were mentally exhausted" type stuff. I never bought into that excuse making.

Everyone matters otherwise it's biased and he did interview people that left and came back but again.... you didn't read the article.

Because it doesn't fit what they want to believe. Also most of that stuff is behind a paywall and probably some people didn't even read the free parts... just the snippets posted here. I swear if it wasn't against the ToS of this website, I would copy paste the whole thing here lol.

I share that opinion Not everyone in the article said negative stuff. Look, I know almost no one in this thread has read the entire article but I have said all over this thread that the entire thing isn't negative nor is everyone he talked to. Also IMO, the 9/11 part wasn't even the worst part of the article and it was a small section of a large article. It's just what everyone is focused on.

I mean the dude took over a 3 win team and got them to the playoffs with Christian Ponder and Joe Webb at QB. He might not have done well but he wasn't exactly set up for success at QB either.

Frazier for sure.

Not really. Journalists just use other sources and peoples agents to get interviews. Sure, he don't have the access of Sal C., but he can easily get interviews with players and staff. I'm tempted to pm you the entire story but I'm guessing you will just biasly rip it apart because you don't seem willing to have an open mind about the whole thing and don't seem to like the guy.

I'm guessing you didn't read the entire article either. Pretty sure he did get some comments from current players and assistants. Just because he doesn't have credentials for the Bills doesn't mean he can't talk to anyone. It just means he won't have access to the PC's really. Not everything paints him in a bad light either. Sure, the article is written in a way to say McD is not a superbowl winning coach, but not everything is bad in it and not every player comment is bad either. Also, while everyone is focused on this 9/11 thing in the article... it was a very small part of the article. What I don't like about the article personally is it could have waited at least until the season was over. This team is fighting for a playoff spot and still has ambitions of winning. It doesn't need further distractions. Of course, media people never care about how what they write affects peoples lives. All they care about is their story. That goes for most journalists, not just Dunne.

Sure if you say so. I believe his article.

Personally I never liked that they added a 7th team.

Some ribs sound delish

This is why the Bills could make it this year if they actually make it to the playoffs. We would be one of the most dangerous teams in the playoffs if they get their crap together. The playoffs are filled with bad teams.

Well the week starts in the Bills favor! Thanks Pats!

I think Philly is so effective at it because they use 3 centers that are used to getting low. I read that somewhere anyways.

Meh no way Tribusky is going to pull a Mahomes here. I'd just punt this out of bounds. Don't even chance a return.

I'd QB sneak this and if I didn't get it I'd go for it and do it again