Riverboat Richie

Sure. I mean ........to be "fair" and all.

Oh no! Should I rethink my views on this? The WNY media is lining up with my views. Maybe I am wrong on not taking a QB.

Good talk Jeff. We both want the same thing, just have different views on how to get there.

Considering their WR situation as it is, I'd say they have to pick up the option.

I have no idea to be honest. It's April 23, haven't even gotten past the draft yet. Same players different coach. Let's see what happens in September.

Right. I'm the one with the unrealistic views. Posters here who deal in emotional reaction would be better owners. Ok, nice to see how you mind works if nothing else.

Again, they did better than that with Wrecks and Taylor.

Ha HA, 1-7 all because of the QB? They didn't do that bad last year and they had a train Wrecks for a game day coach. I would think I need to fill more holes on the team before I draft a QB at that point. By the time the rest of the team catches up it will be time to draft another QB. If you're 1-7 you have bigger problem than a QB.

They will not take a QB at #10 and that is my opinion. I would not pass on someone that can help me now. Which one of your favorites will do better than the ones on the roster as of today? How long before thy even show any sign of being your "Franchise" guy?

That's what every post of your's reads like. Oh and if these two are that good and can't miss guys, they won't be there at 10 anyway. Look at the teams interested in the QB position prior to the Bills pick.

You don't get it. It's not about the name of the guy. It's what can happen when you take a guy out of desperation. It's a reminder that it could and does go either way. You want to pick one because of Wilson and Prescott? Same thing.Teams know more about these guys then you will ever know. But that's what happens when you think like a fan. Hey, if you're happy with the pick one just to pick one mentality then, more power to you. Buyer beware.

Since you can't figure it out on your own................Owners were business people first. Anyone involved in the sport is a "fan". You think someone from this board would be able to go straight to the GM position? Know how to run an organization? Be my guest. Give it a shot. You wouldn't be given the time of day form any team.

Right and brought all their message board mentality with them right? Perfect example of what I'm talking about right here.

Funny how fans and the media never become team owners or GMs, even though they think they know better.

Your point may be valid but that doesn't mean the Bills believe that any of these guys are franchise guys. They believed Losman had it and that EJ had it. They drafted them and the boards turned on them when these guys didn't make it. What one believes doesn't make it so. You can't take something that isn't there. You will again be disappointed. Again you want a QB just to take a QB. You're blinded by that obsession.

It depends on how bad a team needs a player that is available when their pick comes up. If they decide another position would be strengthened more at the time then that will be the pick. Then if a QB is therein the next round then you have to decide what his potential benefit is to you. You are so obsessed with the QB position that you are blind to anything else. Like I said before, you can't just wish things to turn out the way you want. If I could I wouldn't be wasting it on what a football team needs, believe me!

QB purgatory. Is that what the kids are calling it now days? You guys sound like you believe the BS about QBs being gone by pick 44. There is no gaurentee that the first QB taken is a "Franchise" guy. I seriously doubt even the Brown think highly enough of these guys as to take one at number one. Someone will be there in the second round and I think one or two might be there in the third. The draft always seems to be the opposite of what the pre draft expectations are. I'm only saying I would not take one at #10 this year. And the only way to do that is a QB at #10 this year? Why not the second or third round? If you're talking project anyway.

We're talking about the top players at their position in the entire country. You know how many players are draft eligible in a given year? The draft is to help teams that suck get better. Suck more and get a better shot at top talent. If I'm not going to do that then I might as well trade out of the first every year. QB is not the only position that can help this team this season.

And if they take one and he flops, the same people who beat the drum for a QB say they screwed up and took the wrong guy. If a player at another position taken after them makes the Pro bowl his first year then they really screwed up in the eyes of the fans. Fans can be wrong. The team can't for the very reason you stated. Your number ten pick needs to start. That's my opinion.

I know I can't wish a guy to be the answer just because I want him to be, like some fans seem to be doing. If a guy can become one? Any guy could become one. What are the odds on each of these guys becoming one? I don't think they are very good for any of them.

There is no one going to start right out of the gate and take the job from Taylor. I'm sorry but I don't see it. That means the guy sits. I always believed that if you draft a QB in the top ten, he had better be able to start from day one. Not this year.

Tyron got the last staff fired? Are you serious with this or do you just like message board debates and don't really care about the topic? They reached for Losman and for EJ. You want to do it again. No one can decide on one of the rookies being the guy to go first or second for that matter but message board posters have it all figured out. Yes, talking about a QB at number 10 is just draft hype.

They have a QB like it or not. I' m still not sure what he can really do base on the previous coaching staff. what kind of a ground and pound team can't convert a third down when they lead the league in rushing? Really pounded it ther in the red zone too, huh. What exactly was there identity then? Taylor played his whole time here so far like he was afraid to make a mistake and face the coaches. You ever see any of your franchise guys look like they were afraid of anything? Turn the guy loose and see what he can do. He, much like Whaley is walking on a thin line. Give them both all they need to succeed. If they fall off the wire then so be it. They don't need to buy into the QB at number ten hype.

Not good when the boss isn't sure what they want and are depending on you to get them through it all. Needs to stop being a doormat.

One thing I've always wondered about with Whaley was that if the stories are true of him getting pushed around by coaches and the owners, why he didn't just quit. Who sits back and takes that much crap. At some point it stops being worth it. If you veto or ignore his input that many times, why bother anymore?