Crusher

Only because of the way posters attacked and insulted me because of my view of TT as a QB. There was never any hatred for the person there, and I only accept Bills losses when it helps draft position...I never root for losses.

I dislike him as the QB for this team's future...that's all there is to it. I have always treated this season as a throwaway. I'll take the better draft position over meaningless victories this season, for sure.

I don't have an issue with this response. You clearly have reasons why you think the way you do, and you are entitled to feel that way. I can't say it's wrong or right. I just know how I feel, and since I'm a well known TT critic, I figured if anyone can relate it's me, and I certainly don't hate him or any person for that matter, and I definitely don't like seeing my team lose. I would understand it this season, but would not enjoy it.

First off...I must question anyone's sanity if they want to pin anything from JM2009. I think that statement speaks for itself. Secondly, you must stop and realize where others are coming from. They have come to believe that TT is without the shadow of a doubt NOT the answer for this team, so of course they want to move on. They want the experiment to end, and they want to turn the page so we can truly have a shot by drafting and playing the next guy who has promise and potential. TT to many has no more promise or potential. He's reached his ceiling, and expecting significant improvement or development at this stage seems highly unlikely. Does this cause them to appear to root against him? I'm sure it can appear that way. Me personally...I think TT is a good guy and has a lot of heart and toughness. I appreciate that and respect it. At the same time, I want his time as our QB to be over sooner rather than later because he does this team no good for it's future...this season is a throw away. I stand by my statements and don't believe anyone hates TT...that's just stupid. I think you and others are too emotional over this subject and can't separate criticism and wanting to move on from a player and hating or rooting against him and the team. Those things are not mutually exclusive.

****NEWSFLASH**** You are the average fan

Unfortunately, he's not. This is why I've taken issue with Shaw on occasion. Good guy, knowledgeable guy...but he just whiffs sometimes due to his love for the Bills and his inability to see clearly.

It's funny because many here claimed this current group of receivers is at least as good, if not better than last year's group...which is it?

The Broncos just dismantled a better line with a better rushing attack and a better QB. It's gonna be a long day for all Bills fans, but especially TT. He may not make it through this one...

I can consider it, but you said it's on Zay, so apparently you have decided it was his fault without having the knowledge of what the play or route was. I tend to believe that if the route was wrong, then TT should have thrown to the spot where he was headed to and open...not behind him where the safety was making his way over to also.

That last sentence makes no sense, and I'm not putting a thing on a rookie who made an incredible adjustment just to have a shot at catching it. How many times will fans let Taylor slide and put it on another player, coach, or what the weather was that day? It needs to stop, and TT needs to be sat down during the bye week.

Interesting stuff here...I appreciate the insight.

Why do you keep talking about posters? I think Bang had you pegged when he called you a stalker. And FTR...you have things completely wrong. We give tough takes that posters that are too emotionally invested in TT can't handle, so they lash out and then try to tell us we are fighting with them and other nonsense. Football is a tough game for tough people...hence why there should also be tough takes. If you can't handle that heat, son...you know what to do.

The tape doesn't prove a thing, and nobody is going to blame the leader of the offense in TT. Call it what you want, but you are just as stubborn as any poster here.

Hahaha! I'm delighted that the Bills meet you're standards. Does Rosie O'Donnel do it for you, too?

He could never in a million years be Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson has a tremendous feel for the position and is not limited as a passer like TT. These thoughts work in your mind, but are not nearly as well applied in real life.

If this were the BBMB, I'd have a ton of fun with that poster.

I think he's more talented and a better athlete than Josh Reed, but yeah...I'm not sold that he will become a great player.

Yup...clearly every other person on the Bills is at fault besides TT. This has been the story of his career with Bills. The good news is that it's winding down

Sounds like the "big kid" got his feelings hurt. I've discussed the topic like a respectful individual while you have done less than that. It's always the same posters claiming superiority that act the most foolish, and you're post is a wonderful example.

This disturbing pattern has been going on for quite some time now, and it's a bit puzzling, as well. I have theories, but I just don't get it personally because I would rather roll the dice than to stick with a proven failure.

Calling that pass great is just awful, I'm sorry. On no planet is that a great pass I think you have it wrong. The ones who look bad are TT and the ones who keep excusing TT and his play over and over again.

And this thread you started is some kind of quality work? I don't tell posters how to act and how to be a fan, and I don't give weak responses like "ignore. Boom. You nor any other poster here has anything on me in terms of what they bring to this board. Get over yourself and what you think you are here...we are all just posters on an internet message board.

The adjustment he made to turn his body to get his hands on it was pretty impressive IMO. He was headed in the complete opposite direction. I disagree that that doesn't make top plays if he comes up with it, but we'll never know cause he didn't.

Yeah...you sure are awesome for that. Lol

Wrong. That's the only reason he was even able to adjust to the poor throw behind him. If he never stumbles...the ball is nowhere near him.