Straight Hucklebuck
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18 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:
Or cameron Wake
Again, this is on the FO to find someone better.
For three years the Bills havent been able to find someone better. Jordan Mills is starting again in 2018.
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Whatever NFL.
Ever year, more rule changes = the less and less I watch of games.
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McDermott spoke about his offensive philosophy when he got hired. He said that the Bills have to be physical and run the football because it’s snowy and cold in Buffalo. Always managing field position and down and distance.
I think in Year One that held true. One of the more interesting story lines with this team and Allen is why do we need a rocket arm QB if we aren’t going to aggressively throw down field? Will the offensive staff tailor a modern passing game, or does McDermott truly believe in a Jaguars model from 2017, riding defense and running? How much creativity does he have?
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Remember when QB guru David Shaw was going to fix the issues of Bills QB past?
I think largely guys either have it or they don’t and most times you can tell early on in their career.
Good is good. The bar of QB play is low in Buffalo - Trent, Fitzpatrick, EJ, Orton, Taylor, Peterman.
I can live through the picks with Allen, but it would be a change to see a Bills QB move the offense up and down the field some and force these Coaches to put more in the playbook than running the ball and dumpoffs because its Buffalo and it’s cold outside.
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Good for Mills.
And to those fans on here bashing Mills, it’s the Bills who haven’t found a better plan at RT for 3 years.
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Yes.
He should have been a Buffalo Bill from the beginning.
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Brady gets into a lot of people’s head including Adams’.
So he picks a weak target (Allen) to bolster his bravado.
You’re a Safety. You’re not Ed Reed. It’s nice to think you can will your team to greatness, but we all know you can’t.
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If what Coaches and GMs said was true - that evaluation is based overwhelmingly on game film, not the Combine, then Allen would have never been selected at #7.
Of course some fans wanted Rosen, it’s logical that they would. Josh Allen is a Bill now so of course the only narrative one can parrot is unwavering support.
Oh well, I hope Rosen stinks and Allen is good. Hope Mahomes and Watson stink too. The Bills passed on a few productive QBs to trade up for a guy that had 17 TDs his last year in college.
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17 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said:
We could rationalize every single draft pick in that way. Every team has professional scouts and coaches who know exponentially more than Joe Fan. Even bottom feeders like the Browns or Jets have elite minds at the table. Teams still make bonehead decisions every year.
So what did they see on film that screamed "elite franchise QB"? I don't know. None of us were in the room, and all we have is a buttoned up, media friendly version from Beane and company. If you want to make it about analytics, well, that has been well documented:
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/24/17271686/josh-allen-nfl-draft-2018-stats-analysis-comparisons
My personal favorites:
1 TD and 8 INT against 3 Power 5 FBS opponents in his career.
He has more INT than TDs on the road in his career.
He completes 12% of his 40+ yard passes, when every other top prospect completed at least 30%.
He has 2 career 300+ yard games.
This whole conversation is fundamentally insane. If the guy is such an amazing prospect, why aren't there any statistics that support the claim?
How could anyone read that SB article and not conclude Allen is a massive projection?
His game tape tape is not good enough to be the 7th overall pick.
Hes 6’5” with a rocket.
By by the way, does our Coach even want to throw the ball deep? Every time he speaks it’s about cold weather and establishing physical nature. Does our GM want to throw deep? Kelvin Benjamin is a 6’5” 250 pound possession WR. Zay Jones who we traded up for is a possession WR. Who is going to get separation and catch all these Allen bombs?
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Jay Cutler already explained this guys, no need to workout, he plays QB and you don’t need to be in good shape.
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I think it’s fair to say that if what GMs always say about the draft was really true - that’s it’s always about the game tape, not the Combine - that Josh Allen would not have been close to a 1st Round Draft pick.
Nothing about his his college career indicates that he is a blossoming Star.
He’s here largely for the same reason EJ ended up here. Our GM and HC can’t get Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers out of their heads, so they locked onto a 6’5” 235 pound rifle armed QB and will look to fix his accuracy issues. He has played in cold weather. But it’s eye opening that our GM on his first day of interviews after the draft is already mentioning Cam Newton by name.
Leading up to the draft, Schopp and Bulldog had numerous draftniks on, a few liked Allen, but most thought the High first round valuation was inflated based on the game tape. Cosell pointed out his fundamental inaccuracy.
How our Coach watched Deshaun Watson’s career at Clemson and decided that he was not worth #10 in 2017 (with the same GM that agreed EJ Manuel was a 1st Rounder after watching his college career), or Patrick Mahomes and his production for that matter, but that Allen was worth the 7th overall pick and trading up with an additional 2nd/3rd is really head scratching.
They loved him, but it can’t be because he blew people away with college tape. It’s all potential based on size and arm.
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16 hours ago, frostbitmic said:
Foxborough
This is a good call. There is nothing around the stadium but a forgotten two lane road with old motels, bars, closed up Chinese restaurants, gas stations.
Boston is a live city though. 40 minutes away from Foxboro.
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Nashville is overrated in my opinion. When you boil it down it’s one street of bars/restaurants in a small city.
Indianapolis has an overpriced zoo, but a nice children’s museum, that’s what I know about it.
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His comp coming out of college was Courtney Upshaw formerly of the Ravens.
So far that’s been right on.
The losing weight to get quicker is a last ditch effort, the scheme excuse is meant to delude fans and coaches and buy time.
On draft night Mayock put up tape of Lawson getting stonewalled by Left Tackles and cited his lack of explosiveness. It’s been a spot on critique.
He gets mop up sacks and tackles, nothing else. Too slow to play OLB, too small to play on the line.
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2011 at Miami.
35-8.
That was the game where the Bills actually had their helmets blown off their heads by Yeremiah Bell.
Fred got hurt, Levitre had to kick out to LT.
Completely dominated and manhandled. Pushed around.
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On 6/20/2018 at 8:41 AM, formerlyofCtown said:
Julio Jones says hello.
Julio Jones is a bigger, faster, better athlete.
Why do you and other Bills fans do this? You post stuff like Tom Brady says hello, Antonio Brown says hello, like it means something to the here and now.
They have nothing to do with the Bills. 4 years in, on his 3rd team, I think it’s fair to call Sammy Watkins an underachiever/disappointment.
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Sammy had this big fresh start with the Rams last year.
He had one game over 100 yards (106) and in that game he had 6 total catches, most of the season. He didn’t break 600 yards total for the season.
He had 1 catch for 23 yards in their Playoff game.
We keep waiting for this explosion, but I think he goes to KC and plays second fiddle to Tyreke Hill and Travis Kelce.
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Yes. I’ll never root for any Boston team.
The fact that Chris “Bulldog” Parker is a Buffalo sports commentator and roots for the Red Sox is a complete joke.
Go Cavs
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Trading Jason Peters, then having Bills fans tell you what an overweight, fat, bum he was, addition by subtraction they said.
It was embarrassing to have Russ Brandon stand up in front of the crowd at the start of Training Camp and say he had no idea where Jason was, that he hadn’t talked to him since January.
The other one was hiring Buddy Nix. Again our boy, Russ Brandon, standing up there with Ralph Wilson saying they “scanned a list of names” and narrowed it down to two in-house choices - John Guy and Buddy Nix.
Nix was a disaster of a GM.
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On 2/1/2018 at 12:57 PM, DFT said:
“Isn’t a ready to go franchise changer like Cam Newton”. Newton wasn’t either, when he came out. But his needle points a little too close to Gabbert and Bortles, for me. I don’t like the EJ comparison at all. He would definitely need at least a year though in my opinion.
He wasn’t?
His first two games in the league he threw for 400 yards+.
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3 hours ago, GG said:
This is a very lazy take that does not account for the decision makers exposure to the prospects. It's beyond laughable to think that Cardale is a better prospect than Allen and basing that judgement because they're the same size. Cardale was in the Bills' locker room for 1.25 seasons, and Beane probably did a hell of a lot of scouting on him, if you also want to apply the lazy parallel to Cam. They got rid of Cardale at the first possible moment, because they recognize that you need more than physical traits to succeed as a QB.
I’m not trying to be lazy or claim that I’m an expert.
I didn’t state Cardale was better, just asking the group how is Allen better/different than Cardale?
My overarching point/question is? What exactly did Beane and McDermott see in Allen that made them willing to move Glenn, #12, #53, #56? Was it deeper than he’s tall and played in Wyoming before?
Admittedly, my opinion of Allen is mostly comprised of “expert” opinion, namely Greg Cosell. I did not watch Wyoming Cowboy games.
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55 minutes ago, jrober38 said:
It means he has maybe a 1:10 chance of becoming a successful NFL QB.
Guys like him don't work out in the NFL.
The interesting nugget for me is what the decision making logic was driving the new regime (Beane and McDermott) to spend #12, #53, #56 and Cordy Glenn on Josh Allen while trading away a similar developmental guy in Cardale Jones?
Beane wasn’t here when McDermott passed on Mahomes and Watson, but if they wanted the big arm, why didn’t they draft Mahomes last season? How do you watch Watson’s career and conclude he’s not worth one first round pick, but Allen is worth trading up for?
What reason(s) past he’s tall and has a big arm are there? Because through two interviews they sound like Whaley speaking about Manuel. Presence and really tall, nothing about accurate passing and scoring points.
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2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:
I didn’t want Allen. Honestly. Told all my fellow Bills fans, anyone but Allen. Then the Bills picked him. I could care less about what they gave up to grab him, the Bills still walked away with a full drafts worth of picks.
Since Thursday I have been reading and watching more and more about Allen. I now believe Allen is going to be good. I will also ask fans like you , why do you feel the need to say Allen is going to fail? Are you preparing yourself if he doesn’t? Is it a self defense coping mechanism to prepare for disappointment? You have mentioned in a few posts that Beane and McDermott have their head stuck in Carolina. Where do you think your head is stuck? I think it is in the past. You are drawing from past let downs maybe even times you did believe. Now you are too smart to let that happen. I’d ask you and all Bills fans to cheer our guy on. Loyalty is appreciated.
My head is stuck at what I said originally.
What is the logic from Beane and McDermott coveting Allen past he’s tall and has a big arm?
I’ve listened to two interviews from Beane now. What did you like about Allen? He’s big, tall, physical, has a big arm to play in Buffalo conditions.
In the second interview he mentioned Cam Newton by name. Beane didn’t talk about reading a defense until specifically asked to define Allen’s college responsibilities.
My opinion in their decision making remains unchanged by new interviews. Josh Allen is here because he’s tall and has a big arm, and throwing the football with accuracy from the pocket with anticipation is not a discerning trait.
My problem is - this is why Russel Wilson is not a Bill. Nix loved everything about him except he wished he was a few inches taller. Whaley loved Manuel because of his presence. Cardale Jones was a massive QB with the same “raw talent”.
We’ve seen this type of draft pick before from Buffalo, for the same reasons as our GM is giving now. This time we traded #12, #53, #56 and Cordy Glenn to do it, while passing on Mahomes, Watson and Rosen along the way.
Hope all the data projects the wrong outcome and Allen is the anomaly.
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6 hours ago, Scorp83 said:
Exactly! Listen to this caller Brian...he called during the Sal interview... & he nailed everything point I had! I was on hold but after hearing him... there was no point to stay on hold lol!
04-30 Sal Capaccio with Howard and Jeremy - http://www.wgr550.com/media/podcast/howard-and-jeremy
The main thing he said was "How can this front office look at Watson tape & decide he isn't good enough...yet they're blown away by Allen?" Why didn't they draft Mahomes? Who had a big arm & was a little more establish then Allen?"
Man check it out
That was me. Brian from Arcade. Almost missed the call because I was making the kids lunches for school.
Like Murph, Sal is in constant defend mode.
NFL Coaches and GMs constantly tell their fans that “the tape” is the centerpiece of their evaluations, and that the Combine is useful mainly for the interviews/medical, not the measures. Josh Allen at #7 is a prime example of why that’s not always the case. Can’t be. No way you watched that career and concluded a Mountain West honorable mention was worth #12, #53, #56 and Cordy Glenn, but Deshaun Watson wasn’t worth #10 last year other than 6’5” and 82-yards worth of arm strength.
Simply put, Beane and McDermott can’t get their head out of Carolina. They wanted their own big, strong armed QB that reminded them of Cam. They saw a 6’5” guy with a rocket and made their game tape/evaluation fit that decision. Listen to Beane speak about Allen. Sounds awfully similar to Nix/Whaley at the 2013 season ticket holders box club speaking about Manuel’s size and room presence and never once mentioning reading a defense or throwing accurately.
How is Allen a better prospect than Cardale Jones? He’s not. Cardale had more college success, was the same size, had the same arm, was the same age coming out, was just as raw. But Whaley picked him and we can’t have that (ego).
It it bothers me to hear 35/40-Year video vet Cosell talk about pocket presence & accuracy, and our GM is talking about snowy weather and running the ball.
Once again the Bills are going for the Rudy story. Hoping beyond hope that they outsmarted the league by swimming away from logic and selecting the diamond in the rough. Sal is already talking about obtaining WRs with large “catch radius” to help inaccurate Allen (literally heard all of these ideas about Manuel - the footwork, picking brain of a vet, working with a QB guru, getting elite talent around him).
Does our Coach really mean to change our offense to an aggressive throw deep style? You’re doing that with Kelvin Benjamin as your #1 and Zay Jones as your #2?
After all it’s still snowy, cold Buffalo and we need to pound the ball.
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Do the Bills need a sacrificial lamb QB for preseason game 4?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Nate Peterman should be the sacrificial lamb.