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I agree with you on Beasley. It’s been spotty in terms of targets anyways.

I said this in another thread and probably rightfully so got bashed for it, but I think Allen’s arm is overrated this year. He underthrows WRs on deep shots or cross field, or throws them low where they have to dive to the ground. But to the OP I’d say: 1. The offensive line bad, and every other game they get dominated. 2. The stand pat method at the skill position players hasn’t been as effective. We are seeing Beasley lose a step, Sanders slowing down, Gabe Davis and Isaiah McKenzie turned into complementary pieces who aren’t ready to step in and fill those voids. In short, our player snap mix is worse, we’re getting less out of the same players. To that point, Diggs is closer to 1,100 yards, instead of the 1,500 yards and the touchdown pace isn’t elite either. 3. An add-on to #2 - You stand pat and opposing Defensive Coordinators lock onto what you are doing and start to slow you down. The jet sweep action comes and goes this season, we haven’t run as much 4 and 5 wide sets since Pittsburgh/OLine debacle. 4. NFL Fringe players who get on the field - Gilliam, Sweeney, Ford (not NFL), Boettger, Zack Moss. 5. McDermott is losing some of his risk taking to attempt field goals.

I think Beane is learning how hard running it back can be. How easy it is to overrate the talent on offense. The Bills have invested in the defense and up until today it largely paid off. The depth at DT falls off a Cliff when Star L is out. But overall, this team needs players at every position in the offense besides QB. No more overrating anyone on this offense.

Well this is why when Nate Geary is yammering on and on about the Titans being frauds I was like you’re out of your mind. The Bills have one quality win this year and who would think they could beat the Chiefs right now?

I think he needs to pour resources into this offense. This team has a quarterback that guys want to play for. But …. we need more talent at WR. I don’t want to hear about Diggs. 1,500 yards was last year, he’s about a 1,100 yard WR right now. Gabe Davis isn’t going to be a #2. Sanders is too old. Beasley peaked last year. A huge need on this team is a vertical playmaker at WR. We need a real Tight End and depth. No more Tommy Sweeney and Reggie Gilliam. We need a faster running back. Zack Moss stinks, Singletary is a backup. And of course we know the offensive line, really at every position, could be improved. This is the cautionary tale of running it back with the same crew. And Allen needs a suite of weapons.

After the Titans game I said the Super Bowl talk needs to stop. After the Jaguars game we all saw the Bills offensive line is beyond poor if Spencer Brown misses time. And today, we saw that simply keeping the band together on offense is no guarantee you will have the same results as the year previous. When you have threads about Cole Beasley starting next year, resigning Emmanuel Sanders, having Gabe Davis be our #2 WR, that isn’t good enough. We need a Ja’Marr Chase, Deebo Samuel level talent added to the WR group, a real Tight End, a better running back. I think Beane will see this and act.

Bills look like paper tigers at this point.

It’s why I have lamented this teams obsession with Zack Moss.

Well are we a “Super Bowl contender” or not?

I still don’t know if Mac Jones is a playmaker, but he’s naturally accurate and so there is an efficiency to his game. Plus, doesn’t it seem like he has a good grasp of the offense? It’s not like they paired down the playbook EJ Manuel style so that he can get on the field. It’s a classic Belichick team. Good defense, paired with multiple running backs, an accurate Quarterback who makes good decisions and doesn’t turn the ball over. The long term question will be can Mac Jones develop a better arm to make big plays in big games?

100% agree. People have had 8 months to do research on the vaccine. You don’t get it, you leave yourself open to this, and possible side effects.

🤷‍♂️ Hopefully he's vaccinated so we can get this over quicker.

Interior Offensive Line is a glaring need on this team, and we could probably use another quality cornerback, but I'd let Oliver play out his contract and Franchise Tag him if you have to. Unless he is willing to take a deal commiserate with his performance, the Bills shouldn't break the bank for him. In reference to the bolded, the Bills themselves haven't really made McKenzie into a featured player. He essentially touches the ball on offense every 3rd game or so. I don't understand why the jet sweep can't be incorporated more, or why a bubble screen can't be thrown to him. It's said that there are too many mouths to feed, but a couple of throws a game and a carry doesn't seem too much to ask. Stevenson is a long shot despite the two big plays in preseason. I think the need at WR from last season is still there, and the answers are probably not on the roster already. I think the Bills would really benefit from a strategy to land another top flight talent there, at the expense of #2 CB, or another DT, or a better running back. Offensive Line is pressing, or else I would make it the top of the list.

See that’s my point, I don’t need to lose Sanders to free agency and everyone left just moves up a peg. It’d be better if we acquire another top flight talent and add that to the WR room. Allen is the offense, and we have to keep feeding that, and if that means another 1st Round WR or TE is added, so be it.

I’m just saying don’t stop. Don’t be hung up on this idea that Sanders and Beasley have to be our #2 and #3 next year, and Gabe Davis can sit another year behind them. Can you imagine this Bills team with a guy like Deebo Samuel or AJ Brown? I think we bring the same people back in the same roles, and we’re losing ground in this league.

The Bills use him correctly, 8 touches a game. As long as Zack Moss continues to see the ball less and less I am all for it.

I think the Bills should look for better across the board at WR, including Diggs. This team is built around Josh Allen, so Tight End, WR are always going to be positions of need. You see a player like Debo Samuel last night? If the best player on the board is a WR, take him, regardless of Cole, Diggs, Sanders or Davis. I would not bank on McKenzie taking that spot, and I would not trip over trying to bring back the same exact crew. I like Sanders, but I'm convinced he has to be the #2 or Beasley be the #3.

He twisted an ankle in Week One, he’s still limping because of that in Week 10?

1. Agree 100% on Moss. He did have a nice touchdown yesterday, that needs to be acknowledged. However, you saw with Breida the immediate speed difference. I just don't understand what Moss has done to have it written in stone that he is our Red Zone back no matter what. 2. AJ Klein is okay. Pregame kept talking about the Chargers game last season that won him DPOTW. He's the first linebacker off the bench, I don't see him as more than that. 3. Gabe Davis, again 100% agree. Like Point #1, why it's written in stone that Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley have to get every rep at #2 and #3 WR, I'm not sure. I have not understood why Gabe Davis and Isaiah McKenzie are not rotated in more. My concern would be that Sanders or Beasley get hurt, and Gabe and Isaiah have little time on field, are they going to be ready to go? 4. They kept 10 lineman, and that's the group they steal from to make the Gameday 48. 5. Punter has been a sore spot. Bojorquez wasn't consistent either.

Yes, this is exactly what was stated in the other thread, we have become Allen reliant, almost Allen dependent. WGR has pushed this narrative that you don’t need to run the ball at all, that Allen can be our leading rusher, as well as audible to more passes, that the Steelers were the only Defense that could crash our offensive line. They’ve waived their hand after every game stating that any loss is simply an anomaly. Allen can always do more, he needs to take the check downs but also stay aggressive. The Bills need to: 1. Get Moss off the field. This notion that he has earned #1 status hurts the team, he’s slow. 2. Sacred cows that Sanders and Beasley need to be on the field at all times, mix in Davis and McKenzie in their places, because those two have stopped their development this year. 3. When the Bills run, line up under Center in Pro Set and just run straight ahead for 4-yards.

Maybe not, Moss cleared protocols so that means the Bills will start funneling touches to him again, and give him all Red Zone work.

1. I don’t understand how we can’t hit Diggs on a slant. Why do we have quarters like Jacksonville 3rd Quarter where he isn’t targeted? 2. Daboll has too many sacred cows with this offense and he does not adjust. It’s just understood that Beasley and Sanders must play every snap. Daboll said Gabe Davis plays behind the big 3 WRs. Why aren’t the Bills using their defensive line approach to WR and rotating Gabriel Davis and Isaiah McKenzie in at WR in place of Beasley and Sanders, respectfully? What’s going to happen is an injury to one of the Big 3 and McKenzie and Davis aren’t going to be ready to go. 3. I think this point about the run game is correct. We are obsessed with these delayed handoffs and fake RPOs out of shotgun that take too long. Line up in Pro Set under Center and hand the ball off for 4-yards. Like my sacred cows point, get Moss out of this offense. Daboll has just crowned him our Red Zone back and so he gets every opportunity down there. It’s just assumed he is our beat option. 4. With all this talk about checking down and taking what the defense gives them, I want to see how aggressive the Bills are throwing intermediate 15-20 yard throws that were the hallmark. You just don’t want to see the Bills become a check down reliant offense that needs 17 play drives to score. We haven’t had a deep ball since 2018 because we don’t have the speed on the outside and we don’t have the offensive line to hold up. Josh’s escapability and + mobility cover a bad offensive line. He makes it look easy to dodge pressure. If we had Baker Mayfield or Jared Goff back there, we’d lead the league in sacks taken.

Let’s see if Boogie Basham can get on the field now.

Rams have Henderson, Woods, Kupp, Beckham and a 12-year #1 overall vet QB. The Bucs have the best QB ever, and (3) HOF pass catchers and another great WR. Josh is awesome, but our weapons are not the best in the league.

He’s not wrong, but it’s a lot of check downs.