Rochesterfan

I hate the college rules - it is just as bad as the stupid Hockey OT rules. It is fine the way it is. - adjust the clock if needed.

It will be interesting to see the impact and how teams exploit it to get cheaper contracts for the year, but I doubt this has any impact on the next CBA because that agreement was just signed. The players would need to hold on to this for the next 8 years and that will be nearly impossible. If revenue returns and the new TV deals kick in - next years cap would have been 225-235+ million - it will be slightly lower as the they pull out some for this year. Suddenly every team is going to be flushed with cash and next years FA will be given stupid deals as competition heats up. A few years of that and this cap drop will be a long forgotten nightmare as every position rises with the new contracts.

I have no issue with the current rule. I think about a 0-5% rate is just about right. If you go the the offensive play - make it 4th and 25 and they have to get to their 40 - so the LOS is the 15. Huge penalty if they fail. And the reward is you still need to move the ball to score. I would also limit this option to 1 attempt per game. I Hate this because you would greatly increase the number of collisions and potential helmet to helmet as people are diving and both teams are running for the ball.

I totally agree - I do not think the Bills were not prepared and I do not think the interview process caused them to be less prepared than usual. I do think that with several WRs injured, but trying to go - that impacts and limits what a coach can install and what plays become available during a game. We basically had an entire position group hurting throughout the playoffs. Diggs had his back issue, Brown with the high ankle sprain, Beasley with the broken leg, and Davis with his high ankle sprain. I think the limited aspect of the 4 of them had a bigger impact.

Not sure I agree here - the Bills came out and managed to win 2 playoff games with whatever distractions were going on. The Bills had the same postseason record as KC and played significantly harder teams. The Chiefs fully healthy nearly lost to the Wild card Browns. Were they distracted? Or was it playoff football - which is generally tighter and harder than the regular season. I don’t think KC handled it better - they had the biggest advantage of all - the bye week to get prepared and ready to go.

I don’t think this is a big part of their reasoning. I believe they felt (and both McD and Beane have stated) that they felt their guys were excellent candidates for certain jobs, but the fact that it is difficult to set-up good interviews without a bye and you are eliminating more byes in the playoffs makes it harder for these candidates to get interviews. This year was perfect with very limited interviews for coaches that were not #1 seeds and they struggled to have sound access to be able to move forward. The Bills have a positive growth mindset and want to see their players, coaches, and front office staff become the best they can be and if you keep winning- that gets hurt. I am sure there could be a bit of distraction based concerns as I am sure the interviews and then the uncertainty in both coaching and the players can be distracting, but I think they really thought a guy like Frazier was a great fit for Houston and I am sure the winning and a lack of an available hire date hurts his cause.

I will allow the team to make that decision, but Edmunds on the DL is just about the worst idea I have read. I am sorry OP - I do not want a freak athlete putting on a bunch of weight to play a position that he is not suited to. The biggest complaint is that he has trouble shedding blockers and you want to put him right up against those blockers - just a terrible idea. 🤦‍♂️

First off - if you look at the list and the rules the NFL used with COVID - it was harder for playoff coordinators without a bye to do interviews and there were fewer requests. The number of byes was cut in half due to the set-up - therefore cutting some logical time a guy like Daboll had to interview. Even a guy like Bieniemy, with bye weeks, didn’t interview for all of the requests - COVID limited it. Second - I think given their limited time and the current pandemic and the fact that Daboll is “home” right now - I believe he was looking for a specific situation and some of these playoff coordinators without byes - gave some limited lists of who they might potentially interview with. Third - I think Hapless is spot on - I don’t think his job as OC (running game or not) or his development of JA would hold him back. I do think in some of his previous gigs and even here in Buffalo early - his attitude and his temperament might be more of a concern. He is known to be a fiery and passionate guy that has on more than one occasion said things to the players that in the heat of the moment hurt relationships. It was part of the drive to move him to the press box and get him away from Josh and allow someone else to be with Josh on the sidelines. Those things matter. In the end - I am not surprised by the limited requests and I think Daboll has a plan on his next HC gig - he is looking for a Chargers/Jets type situation with either a very young QB or a very high draft pick that he can mold and his current situation is good - so there is no need to interview with teams like Detroit, Atlanta, or even Philadelphia (with the mess their QBs became). If there is one thing I think McDermott teaches - it is preparation and I would think Daboll was prepared for what interviews he would accept and ultimately what his plan was. We will see, but it is better for us - keep the consistency.

@SDS - I can only say you gave a bunch of us old BBMB posters really bad flashbacks. 😂 Thanks for all you do and we really appreciate this site.

I 100% agree, but you also have to be very careful about letting him have to much say. Look at Cleveland when they fired Hue Jackson/Greggo. The Browns wanted to make Mayfield comfortable - so instead of keeping Greggo that had won some games or going outside the organization to find a replacement- they just promoted Kitchens (way over promoted) because of Mayfield. I want Josh to have input because he and his next OC need to be able to see eye to eye, but it also has to be someone that fits with the rest of the staff and can call a good game. I do not mind an internal promotion - if they get another assistant on the offensive side that has called plays successfully in the NFL to help if Ken Dorsey or Chad Hall gets the promotion. As to the Wilson situation- I do not want my QB having a ton of input on the players you are bringing in. The HC and GM need to take an entire team approach and can not be fixated on appeasing the QB, but if it is a franchise guy - it seems fairly easy to just be open and have a continuous talk about guys they like and what fits and what doesn’t. I have read the stories - I just do not understand the Wilson saga because that team has done a ton to try and build around Wilson - trading for OLine help, signing questionable players at WR because they might help the pass game, bringing in FA running backs, etc. I get that he felt (feels) dismissed, but dude - look at how that team has tried to help. I want Josh to be happy and feel free to go see Beane/McD to talk about guys and plans, but I also want those guys to push back and say here is our 1, 3, and 5 year plans and we will see how we can mesh. The balancing act is so delicate, but so vital and gets harder and harder as some of these QBs push for things way outside their job description.

So what are you saying? It sounds like you expect the NFL to take an unemployed coach that is under investigation and throw him out of the league? Except that is not how the NFL does anything with conduct. If he was still employed- they could put him on the Commissioners List like the players until the investigation is complete, but guys that are unemployed typically do not find themselves on the list. AB was not on the list after his last release - it was made clear that if signed they would move him to the list, but he was not. Reid was not going to be signed by anyone - so there is no use right now for the NFL to do anything with him. Even once the investigation is complete - I would expect them to quietly inform teams what they already know - he will not be allowed to coach again. They will let this play out and then decide if the KC team deserves any additional blame (fine/loss of draft pick) and then let the courts handle this guy. What would be interesting is if his contract was not up - then I would think he would have been put on the List, but I am sure the team and the NFL knew the situation and knew there was no need to act - the contract takes care of itself. There is just no other reason for the NFL to act another way in this situation - it does not benefit them to come out and punish a guy that is out of the league and it has no impact on the investigation.

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Right up until he takes on a power RB - which you admit is a con as his technique is not great and has to retire again. His longevity due to the illness (concussions) is part of the issue and basically your Cons list reads like a billion other middling DEs. He is Shaq Lawson or AJ with less experience. He has speed, but lacks power and struggled against Tackles that could get a hold of him. Again - he has potential to grow, but the Red Flags are all there that he will be done with Football with another hit. Why start out with a guy in that boat. I might take a chance if he was far and away a stud player, but for a guy projected in the late 1st or early 2nd that has a number of flaws - I would let others take that risk.

The injuries don’t scare you on a guy that retired from college due to concussions? Huge Con and major Red Flag. The guy has played in 20 games over the last 5 years and most of them at a different position. Huge con and Red Flag. One year wonder at DE and has injury concerns - looks to be about Epensa level with maybe a bit more speed, but his hands aren’t as good and he has done it for significantly less time than AJ. I feel about him like AJ - if he falls to us after trading into the 2nd - then fine, but I am not sure with his age and his health concerns he is worthy of a 1st round pick with a potential 5th year option. Just don’t see him lasting in the NFL.

Totally agree - I am just saying that for that to have been a good deal for Philadelphia- a contract similar to Mahomes with almost all the money tied up in roster bonuses would have been better. For Wentz (and most players) the signing bonus is key as they get that money immediately. It is also the money that becomes dead in Philadelphia, but makes the Indy side look better.

It was not that Philadelphia structured the contract well - because they did not in fact structure it well at all. It is the fact that the huge signing/roster bonus stays with Philadelphia and accelerates. It does not follow Wentz to Indy. Philadelphia would have been way better off having yearly guaranteed roster bonuses that went with the contract instead of the upfront signing bonus. 34 million in guaranteed money stayed in Philadelphia and is the only thing that makes this palatable for Indy. This kills Philadelphia, but for just 1 year as all of that money hits in 2021. Indy is protected because after paying the guaranteed 25 million in salary for 2021 - they have the option of cutting him for limited investment and only losing the draft picks.

That is true, but then you gave up a higher 2nd and 3rd and a ton of Cap resources for a failure. The worst case is if Wentz is not very good, but the talent on the Colts (especially on D) is good enough to propel them to the Playoffs and you end up trading a 3rd and a late 1st for a JAG. Especially since the Jags and Texans look to potentially be bad and the Titans/Colts could end up winning that division despite QB play - based solely on Defense and RBs. It is worth a risk, but it is a big risk and a lot to give up for a guy that has struggled significantly over the last couple of years.

Actually - I think for that contract they gave up a bunch. 3rd this year and a high likely hood off a #1 next year. More than I expected and way more than I would of paid for Wentz. Moves the pressure to Chicago to act on the available QBs.

Figster - I totally hear you and completely respect your take. I am more afraid that he will be less able to do the things he did at Alabama once he gets to the NFL. I think his Alabama play would be great, but I am not sure he translates completely to the NFL. He loses his biggest advantage of a supremely talented OL and insane talent at WR and I am not sure if he becomes great in a place like Buffalo where he is going to get limited runs (pass first team) and limited passes - Allen is a WR thrower and has not really developed into a check down guy. If he is getting 10-12 rushes a game and maybe 2-3 passes - does he look like the same guy? I also fear what his speed will look like - to me he does not have that break away speed - so can he get the ball to the edge or pile drive the pile if the holes are limited? For me I would prefer to see the Bills go after an absolute speed RB in the later rounds that can do some of the things McKittrick does. Hit the edges and one cut and be gone.

I just do not think so. The kid looks slow/average with an offense line that was worlds better than the defenses they were playing. Maybe he will excel, but on Alabama his OLine was so much better that he really had very little to do as a RB. In the NFL - I think he is maybe a slightly better version of Moss. Based upon NFL needs - I am not sure he is the best RB in the draft - let alone generational. He certainly is not being talked about like Barkley, CMC, Elliott range of guys - real generational talent that were all still over drafted. He seems more in the Sony Michel, CEH level of RB (late first early second) - nothing wrong with them, but nothing significantly better than RBs picked in later rounds and even several Undrafted FA RBs. In the post season CEH was outplayed by UDFA Williams for KC. You have Michel - a first round pick outplayed by another former Alabama RB in Damien Harris (a third round pick) and both were on par to Singletary and Moss. I think Harris can play - if you stick him on a run heavy team with a Run blocking OL - like Tenn or Baltimore. I think in a pass first offense with a pass first OL - Harris becomes a JAG and I would rather see the Bills go after a speed back in a later round - rather than Harris in RD 1 with a wasted 5th year option. I would feel better about Harris if we moved back into RD 2 - the 10-15 range and picked up some extra picks.

Some nice Diggs tweets in the thread and a funny Bradley Gelber tweet with JJ Watt in a Bills uniform. It’s a really sweet job! 😂

These are cute and funny - here and on the mobile site images. Give them to your significant other. 😁 I love the way they can poke fun at themselves - McD clapping - classic.

Yes the original rumor was potentially 2 firsts from Chicago for Wentz, but that seemed to go over in Chicago like a lead ballon. The most recent rumors was Indy looking at perhaps a 2nd to “take on” the contract. I think that is a more realistic return for Wentz. I agree that I am not sure that impacts Darnold to much, but it really depends on what the team plans to do and do the Jets believe they can salvage Darnold or are they going to lose him for nothing next year because I do not see them exercising the 5th year option. That gives them a short window around the draft to decide if they want to gain picks and move on or hold on and see what they can do with a new coach and plan.

I agree that I prefer Darnold as well and think he should be worth more (both as a player and as because of contract). It was interesting to me that when the Wentz talk started and they were looking for 2 firsts - that made Darnold potentially worth a first, but now that Wentz is settling it at perhaps a mid-late round second from Indy does that impact Darnold. I still think a 2nd for Wentz would justify a late first or early second for Darnold, but I think it does lessen his value a bit.

What I need to know is with the new reports that the Colts are looking at maybe 1 or at max 2 2nd Rd picks for Wentz - Does a receding tide lower all ships? Does Wentz for 1 2nd pick make Darnold really worth a late 2nd or a 3rd? It will also be interesting with the Wilson talk out of Seattle - what impact does that have on these 2 potential trades and the Watson trade from Houston. Stafford raised the tides, Wentz looked like he is lowering the tides - what ebb and flow. Glad we have our guy!