Rochesterfan

I heard ya - and disagree - and my point was reinforced just today by the guy talked about in the thread during his interview after practice.

I think at least early indications are the Bills schedule should be easier than last years. Not two years ago easy, but the NFC West and AFC west are 2 of the harder divisions - Give me the AFC and NFC south in the schedule and throw in an extra game against an NFC East team. The defenses and QBs they face this year are a huge step down from last year in my opinion.

I hear ya - but if you listen to Gabe talk after practice you hear the issue with that. He ran a 4.5 forty time, but talks about runner better in pads and how playing football - he can run full routes at that speed, but because they run the 40 straight ahead and without pads - he was considered slower as a receiver. He saw guys that ran 4.3 in shorts that on the field he was faster than because of how he runs and his build. The tape shows him getting open in college and we saw it in the pros, but the 40 time suggests he would struggle as he is not faster than the DBs. In reality because he is just as fast in pads and very fluid - he looks better in games that doing an athletic challenge for the combine. The fact that they do things not in pads makes most of the combine irrelevant as the film is still a better judge of their ability.

Kumerow does not need to be better to make the squad - he needs to provide something different than the other two and he has been doing that on special teams. If Stevenson wants to win out and make the roster - it is going to come from kick returning duty. That is his standout point and where he can differentiate himself. Kumerow is already showing out as gunner and as a potential special teams player - so unless Stevenson really picks it up - I think Kumerow has an advantage. Hodgkins - I have not heard much on special teams - so my guess is he is potentially drawing a short straw right now. None of the 3 make the roster as a WR strictly - they already have 4 guys in that role. If McKenzie wins both Kick and punt return - then I think Stevenson and Hodgkins are practice squad bound.

I also think it would be better if they had a cut in there for the guys - so you can really see a realistic 40 time. Pads and a route.

Entire QB room in Minnesota on COVID list - great way to start their camp. Should give Cook plenty of carries. 🤦‍♂️

I hope that is not urine from the bag he keeps attached to his leg during the game. 🤮😂

Totally agree - there are a few places where this is true. Can Kumerow displace Jones - allowing us to keep just 3 RBs rather than 4? Can McKenzie (McKittrick 😂) win both Kick-off and punt return duties? Which depth LBs with Special team abilities step up to allow Klein to get moved? There is potential for a slightly different roster makeup this year with certain guys filling new roles. I think this makes camp super interesting at certain back-up roles where we could see 7 WRs and 3 RBs rather than 6 and 4. With the expanded practice squad and veterans on the PS - I hope we get younger and use those spots on guys like Jones and maybe Addison/Butler as safety fall backs and keep more young guys with future potential.

Ahhh - Thad is back from vacation and the positive guy filling in is gone. 😂

Agreed - also meaningless without PSLs and amount of tax deferred money provided to the owner. It also doesn’t show who is paying maintenance and upgrade costs. A split will happen, but the public will be funding the majority whether it is stadium cost and payment or additional land at less charge and tax free lease of the site or other subsidies.

Winning a Super Bowl is the craziest criteria ever. New stadiums are built all of the time and that has nothing to do with it. In fact it should be the opposite - a new stadium adds revenue and makes it easier for the owner to spend money and build a better roster (if they want). The Bills fans wanting or not wanting a new stadium is irrelevant - a new stadium is needed as the NFL expands and needs more data capacity at stadiums for reviews, replays, and extra cameras. The current Bills stadium is very limited in the amount of television wires, cameras, and crew that can be in the stadium because of when it was built and how it was built. As to @Pasta Joe of course if taxpayers are funding it - building it downtown would make more sense and I believe you could get significantly more private funding that way also, but the cost skyrockets and by previous studies the stadium itself is nearly double the cost - plus infrastructure. There is going to be a lot of give and take and balancing in this. I believe the Pegula’s are willing to give up the downtown stadium that would benefit them, but in doing that they also expect a larger percentage of public funds. In reality - I think the amount of money spent using public funds will stay the same in either location - final guess around 8-900 million. Downtown that will fund about 50% and in OP about 75% of the stadium. The private funding will be countered by more seats with PSLs (we already have some) some additional “fees” on parking and tickets. Of course - the stadium only benefits some of the taxpayers, but unfortunately that is how taxes work - they fund many things and some people only use a small portion.

I know this frustrates a ton of people, but in some way or another all stadiums are publicly financed. Those stadiums built by mostly private money tend to have higher PSLs so the individuals that purchase the seats are paying for the stadium. Those with splits of financing have taxes (fees) added to seats and parking to pay along with things like hotel taxes or other bonds that get paid out of tax money. My assumption based upon what we have read about all of the studies done by the Pegula’s is that the fans do not want PSLs and want to stay in OP for the tailgating. If we accept those 2 factors as what the studies have shown - then I can fully believe this is going to be a mostly public financed project. Why would the Pegula’s fund a stadium in OP and not have large PSLs like most new stadiums? The answer would be because they are not funding it themselves. If they were funding it themselves based upon what would be best for them - the stadium would be downtown near their other projects and then they would charge healthy PSLs for seats and eliminate tailgating because it is more profitable to force people to eat and drink in the stadium. I think in a nod to the fans - the Pegula’s are giving up what is in their best interest and allowing a stadium to be built in OP, but because fans also do not want PSLs - my guess would be it is going to be a 80%-70% public to 20%-30 private funding because without the PSLs to offset the cost - the county and state will have to make up the difference. For every percentage above 0% that is privately financed the PSLs go up and there are added fees to the tickets and the parking. You will pay either way - it is just is it spread out across the area or mostly on the fan base.

I agree he isn’t moving the team, but he could keep the Sabres in Buffalo and the Bills in Austin. There is nothing against that. He would not be moving the Sabres at this point.

Not if he moves them to a city without a hockey team. Jacobs couldn’t because of the Sabres, but there are owners that own teams in multiple cities that do not have additional sport teams. If the Bills moved to Austin - he could maintain the Sabres. If the Bills moved to Dallas - he couldn’t because of the Stars.

The NFL could decide to make adjustments to what the Bills receive in revenue splitting across the league - especially as related to stadium money - making it harder and harder to fund a competitive team. They could come up with specific amounts of revenue each team must contribute and use that to take away picks or provide other competitive disadvantages. They can specifically write into new television contracts a specific amount of line space and number of field feeds needed for the game and future replay - making the stadium obsolete and forcing the Bills to have to play in another stadium until a new stadium is built. They could hold a vote and pull the franchise from the Pegula’s and choose a new ownership and site because they did not follow through on their commitments. Overall - I think the NFL has a boatload of options ranging from financial to performance to removing the team if they want. My guess is they want to stay back and let the Bills push and get what they need, but they have never been afraid to push the envelope as needed.

So you should be thrilled as he already exceeded expectations by making the team on the 53 last year. So his 0% chance of ever making the team - became 100% last year and he played a developmental role. Now we can see if he sticks around again or ends up on the PS or out of the league. Why do teams ever draft developmental QBs - why did NE draft Brady in the 6th round. Usually to give you a guy to look at and help your team longer term and occasionally more, but most of the time they flame out. It is not worth it to be upset and it is definitely worth it for teams to take flyers on these guys.

Need 2 emojis for this - 😂🤮

Wow - is Happy Days really Greg Tompsett. He speaks and a video follows. 😂

I would not do the trade for a 3rd. I think if they let him go as a FA he can potentially net you a 3rd or 4th in Comp picks. It would minimally take a 1st or 2nd, but even then it would have to be a higher 2nd. Prefer to keep him.

I believe he has stated he plays a variety of roles depending on needs and make-up. Many times these guys need to fill in depending on if they are mimicking players for the 1st team offense or the 1st team defense.

I just don’t feel money plays into being a bust. He must have been good enough to demand a huge second contract. As I said - most overpaid (financial bust) I could be on board with, but a QB with nearly 70 starts and over a 0.500 winning percentage and over a 2:1 TD to INT ratio does not scream biggest bust. He also has a 64% completion ratio, over 16,000 yards and a nearly a 90 passer rating - Plus an Pro-Bowl and first team All Pro nod. Those things all scream at least competent QB - now was he way overpaid for his 1 year of success in 2017 and his even better statistical performance in 2018 - yes sir, but again I just do not think he would get mentioned as a big bust. My god with the numbers he put up - he would be one of the top Bills QBs of all times - Basically right now based on yards, TDs, and rating - he would be the 3rd best QB in Bills history in those categories. Even his 35 wins would slot him 4th. I do not think bust is the right way to describe him as he wouldn’t even in the tops 5 draft busts on the Bills.

I won’t disagree with a lot of what you said, but there should be no way he goes down as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. He at least had some half way decent years and hit a second contract. Guys like Ryan Leaf, Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russell and even Wrong Josh at QB would far, far, far be bigger busts. Lawerence Phillips, Boswell, Gholston, Richardson, Mandarich and Dion Jordan are some other guys that fit that label. I think he was on a pretty good level until injuries derailed him and he has never come back from that. Wentz is definitely a disappointment and maybe a failure, but I don’t think he would come up in any lists as the biggest busts of all time. Most overpayed - He, Sam Bradford, and Goff could all definitely fit into that category.

Yes , but you don’t want to step in it. 💩

Man - Yolo - nice job getting this up was just finishing my thread and looked one last time - trying not to duplicate. I hate this for Frank, but why am I not surprised Wentz is missing time already.

Maybe the puppy got in the adult toy section and we can still throw something special at Brady. I bet that could make a good chew toy. 😂🤷‍♂️