Rochesterfan

I think we have 8 WRs better than Zay Jones.

Can you expound on this? I remember Milano pulling his hamstring in week 1 and the team saying it was minor, but much like Singletary the year before - saying they would evaluate as needed and holding him out of week #2 as a precaution to try and ensure it did not linger. I thought they even went so far as to say if it was a playoff game he would have played, but no sense in rushing him back early and risk injury again. I actually thought they gave a standard update and were very forthcoming-about both of Milano’s injuries last year and the timetable for recovery. I feel the same way about Diggs. McD said at this time he is not concerned with it impacting the season, but if something else happens they will adjust. It seems like they are being very cautious to give him the maximum amount of recovery time. I just do not see a reason to be worried right now - they have 25 days before game #1 and nothing they do now counts - so if they think and additional week or 2 sitting back and not taxing the knee is best - I would rather see them do it now. They are not going to give specifics and they have said they are not worried about regular season and everything tells me that the FO has been pretty straight about these things - so I will worry when they are worried.

What a great job by Dion and you could hear the emotions in his voice talking about mentally where he was and his son at home just born this off season. Powerful stuff.

He talked openly and candidly after practice today - a great job by Dion. He had both shots and it was 1.5 weeks after his second shot that he got ill. He spent several days in the hospital downtown Buffalo and lost nearly 20 lbs. Couldn’t eat, drink, and was physically weak. It took an emotional and psychological toll on him and you could hear in his voice how scary it was for him. We don’t need any comments for or against things - he said the same thing - to each their own, but he was physically unable to do anything for a good period of time and was so thankful to the trainers who are working to get him back up to speed and strength. It should be required listening- just to hear how much he cares. I am sure as soon as One Bills Live is posted - his snippet can be posted, but it was a great listen - especially as he talked about his newborn premie baby at home.

When he pulled up - how many guns did they find. I imagine with that team - he had at least 1 uzi stuffed up his backside. 😂

I think Bojo not being re-signed also played into your Bass comments - especially early last season. Bojo was terrible as a holder. - over his couple of years there were more than one handful of times we watched the kick and had to joke about laces out. You also saw the angle of the ball was inconsistent and even when he moved the laces - many times they were on the side not facing away. All of those things impact kicks and move them with spin - impacting accuracy. I think Haack will be better in the field goal and XP holds making Bass that much better and as an added bonus - he is significantly better with the pinning kicks. Our Special teams I think just got significantly better all around. The Refs are what they are. The helmet to helmet hits are a point of emphasis- so you will see more of those and taunting calls at least for a few weeks. I agree with a lot else, but I just watch Dobbins on a very run heavy team and he is fine. I just think we would all be complaining because when he gets 7 carries a game behind this line - do you think he is the same back? If they took a RB or picked up a FA - I don’t think it would matter - in a pass heavy offense with guys looking to pass block - You are never getting into a running flow and I don’t think Dobbins would be any different on this team - He is on a team that will use him as a run first team.

I thought I remember him from the pre-flight highlights and pictures from Thursday, but I did not notice him in the pre-game warm-up when everyone else not playing was out stretching together. I wonder if they got him on a flight and out of Detroit Thursday evening or Friday during the day. Then we heard he was not around Sunday with the cryptic - absent for personal reasons. I hope everyone is ok and wish him the best if needed - There is just so much going on at this time - hoping for the best.

That was true in the past, but the NFL put the dreaded “Point of Emphasis” on taunting this off-season to reduce the amount of actions - just like that - directed at other teams players. They wanted any action that appeared directed at an opposing player - things like flexing, spiking a ball, spinning the ball, yelling, pounding the chest, etc. if done in the direction of an opposing player that could be interpreted as potentially derogatory or inflammatory in nature to be called. Players can celebrate, but they wanted them to do it away from the defenders. It is one of those calls that they go overboard in preseason - make a few calls week 1-3 or 4 and then let it slide back as long as the players don’t get to over the top.

Again - I haven’t see the play from the All-22, but watching it again on YouTube the CB and WR right in front of that official just as they get to the edge of the screen - while Goff is just reaching the top of the drop - you see the WR move to the inside and the Bills CB reach out his hand as he was beat to the inside. Then they go off screen and I believe that is the call - although I do not know the number of the DB there - it did not look like 36. I thought it was Jackson #30 and I believe the safety #46 came up to force Goff into the slide. I did not see Josh Thomas on the field, but I could not see who the other Safety was with Johnson it could easily be Thomas, but they were off the screen from the beginning. If you watch it as Goff breaks the pocket and begins lumbering toward the sidelines - the Ref already has the flag out and goes to throw it, but as Goff is running directly at him - he double clutches and then tosses it in an area not to hit anyone. The players were running directly into the spot he was going to throw the flag. Since it was not a spot foul - he did not have to throw it where the penalty occurred. I would assume the lengthy discussion was for the reason you described - he was not looking in the backfield - so he would need to give the timing on what he saw and someone else would need to confirm where Goff was at that point to the best of their ability to piece the entire thing together. If the illegal contact was the 2 guys on the outside - starting just in front of that official as I suspect - and it was just after the WR made his inside move and the CBs arm shot out - then it occurred while Goff was in the pocket. If it was someone else - then it is hard to say because the only other receiver in the area was covered by a LB and never went downfield.

The Bills had Refs in practice most of last week. They were all over the field. From listening to Sal - they will have some back again either this week or next week before the end of preseason.

Totally agree with the premise of - that image being when he threw the flag. I am not sure I agree that this was when he saw the penalty. It looked like to me - he tried to grab the flag earlier and then the play sorta came at him and he moved his position and then finally threw the flag. I watched several times and have not seen an angle showing exactly when the first contact occurred that was flagged - so I can’t say it was a bogus call or not. I think people get influenced by when the flag is thrown and think that is the exact moment of the penalty, but these guys are watching many things and may see something, but then the play starts moving and they can’t get the flag at that moment. Overall - I won’t kill the officials - there were several borderline calls, but both Roughing calls on he QB were correct calls. Both of the lowering the helmet calls (1 on each team) were marginal, but as a point of emphasis- not surprising. Much like some of the weak taunting calls in other games. The holding especially early seemed legitimate on Hart. I thought they did an adequate job calling the game.

If it wasn’t of interest- why did he resign here and why did they sign him? I would say - my guess is he will also sign up for being exempt after the preseason - as he is injured and very unlikely to be able to show much in the next 2 weeks. If I had to guess - I expect him and Williams to both be on the PS and him to have the IP designation and to not dress at all again this year, but get paid once again. I really don’t think the decision will be very difficult at all for any involved.

Sorry never seen a player on the Panthers before - must be a new team - maybe we can watch for some of their players to sign. 😂

Yep - because he did the first move right at a Panther. Stupid, but they decided that actions directed at opposing players was going to get called and they will be using the preseason to enforce. My guess is by late September- that would go uncalled, but for the next month - including weeks 1+2 of the regular season - any taunting calls will not surprise me. I got worried in our game with some of the ball spinning from the WRs - if it occurs in the general direction of the opposing team - they could call it. Insane for little acts, but they are trying to lessen middle of the field actions as they allow more end zone celebrations in the last few years.

They were experimenting with Hart on the Left Side and he has been a RT exclusive in his career pretty much. I think they needed to see if he can be a swing tackle or not and I think last night showed: NOT. He whiffed because his technique on the left was terrible. He struggled getting his feet to move correctly and his body angle was off. I think they know he is viable as an emergency RT, but if he can’t fill both - then the Bills need a plan. It could be Brown - who played ok at LT or Williams moves over and Hart on the right, or even Bates as a RT back-up - although I thought he looked pretty good at center.

He started with Mitch - made some nice blocks on runs and during his time they threw the ball twice? What we’re you looking for in the 2 passes - 10 catches and a load of big plays? They saw him do some special teams and a few plays.

Boogie was the beautiful form tackle on the QB just after delivering the pass, but he landed on the QB with his weight. Very questionable, but based upon how the rule is interpreted- it was probably correct. I thought Obada showed some nice things and struggled at times, but the roughing the passer looked bad. I saw it live and told my wife just as he picked it off - this is coming back on a RTP call. What I saw in replay was it looked like the tackle shoved his back in a downward motion which brought him lower into the knee area, but that was bad all around. I also find it funny that Bills fans were worried about getting injured and most of the questionable hits came from our young guys - not the lions.

Pretty sure - just like McD - Campbell was working on a few things making scenarios to talk about in film session. It was not how he would coach in a game. My guess is he told the players and coaches - act like we are down by 4 points and need the TD and although they did not succeed- they have film and teaching points. That also gave his team a chance to try and create a late game stop - another teaching moment. McD did the same thing - I believe after the Stevenson catch - he used his timeout - to purposely create a scenario of can we get another 10-20 yards or even 5-6 yards with no timeouts. He can then use these as film teaching points - whether it worked or not is irrelevant- they become teaching material. I also think McD will be a bit ticked by the job his D did late in the game allowing the TD and the FG - so he will have some moments on film in there. Overall - remember it is preseason and for to many years guys acted like it was meaningful to win and would just play it like a regular season game - to the point of just running the ball and not working on things. The league has changed and these new coaches see much more value in scenario situations than actual score. It is why I think eventually pre season will go away and be replaced by televised and fan attended scrimmages in stadiums around the country where 2-4 teams can get together decide on scenarios and practice exactly what they want. Split the field at mid field and have all 4 going at once and switch up who you go against to prevent those fights when teams get together 1:1. This is what most coaches prefer to preseason games and coaches like McVay not playing any starters will eventually force change.

Love the post @GunnerBill - agreed pretty much right along the board with what you said. I have to believe the team will watch that film and be most upset with Hart. I think they were hoping he would look good against those back-ups and maybe drive up an asking price for trade. Instead - he showed he couldn’t even compete with 4th and 5th string guys - huge disappointment as I think he was gone anyway, but I think he just may have played himself out of the league rather than even a tradable commodity.

No but as his arms are longer than many LTs arms - it should be available as needed. The length with a stretch allow him to get a hand to the tackle before the tackle can get his hands on Rousseau and if he is strong enough with that punch - many tackles are going to look just like Sewell there.

Money mostly and because he has stunk as bad as Hart in Dallas. He was older and consistently losing a step.

I believe they had Powell go first because he actually has experience at returning kicks and Stevenson doesn’t. I also think as McD said - there are some guys that are going to get cut and this might be the only chance we see them. I think he wanted to see a bit from Powell to help decide on cutting him. I think Stevenson was sticking around after this game no matter what - so let’s see Powell and if he doesn’t shine - he becomes cut/trade bait.

Maddy still interviewed Josh after the practice. She has a role for the team. I think the NFL network is looking to get Cynthia more exposure and practice at more things. She is still part of NFLN and has side gigs with several teams providing content. I think the bills are giving her a chance at some sideline gigs during preseason to add to what she can do. It seemed obvious that it was a role she was not comfortable with and learning sideline reporting on a local coverage is better than failing on the flagship in prime time. It gets her ready to help out during the season on different coverage.

I wouldn’t do it yet because I don’t want Josh to see much preseason action - so I prefer to keep Fromm on the roster and Josh in bubble wrap until after the third game. Then cut Fromm if you want.

That is just a terrible take - seems like the staff wanted to get some serious run blocking practice for the guys they had starting (mostly 2nd stringers) against Detroit’s starters. They showed well. Webb and Fromm - it was nice to see them actually throw a pass against another team. That had not happened for either of them.