Rochesterfan

I think what you are doing is fine, but just unrealistic to actually understand was it a positive or a negative. Was he not involved or was his presence part of what made him not involved. I think several times he makes the correct play for what his assignment is and people knock him because someone else didn’t do their job. He is far from perfect, but him getting beat on zone beating passes where a player settles into the edge of his zone are not really a negative on him. He did his job and even made the play as difficult as possible. We saw last year in KC where they ran 2 zone beater routes to either side and then with time manipulate the LB one way to open the other. He is following the QBs eyes and breaking just as he should. We will see where everything falls, but I think based upon the defense and the gameplan he is on another Pro-Bowl pace and people will once again have to bend over backwards to explain why he is not worth it.

Bull pucky - last week Belichek put up over 50 points on an overmatched Jets team - including throwing deep passes mid 4th quarter with a back-up QB to score more points. That was classic running up the score - where was the response - where was the anger. Oops there wasn’t much - just as this is nothing. It is football.

The Bills had already muffed 1 KO on the day and a lucky recovery by Kumerow - kept Miami from scoring 10 points in 3-5 seconds. The Bills have also had additional muffed kick-offs and a kickoff bounce backwards right to a kicker - so yes it would have been possible. There are many scenarios with Kick returns for TDs. A broken tackle for TD, A Hail Mary where Parker or Gesicki out jumps some Bills. There was no reason not to go for 2 - missing it kept you up by 2 TDs and at least one 2 pt conversion. A made 2pt conversion meant 3 scores. It was the right call analytically to end the game.

No they are not - that is why you go for 2. There is a chance they can score 2x in 65 seconds as that has been done many times in this league. 15 or 16 made no difference, but 17 does - so you go for 2.

It is easy to me - the drive before at 20-11 were the Dolphins just downing the ball or were they trying to score. They were trying to score - leading to the pick. If the Bills don’t score and kick a FG to go up 20-11 - do the Dolphins kneel or do they go out and try to score? As long as they are still trying to score to get back into the game - you have to try and score to put it away. Once they got the TD to go up 26-11 - the logical play is go for 2 - there is no real difference between 15 and 16 points - both are 2 scores. The only difference is a 2 pt play moves it to 17 points and makes it 3 scores. It is logical to go for 2 there once you score. If the Dolphins didn’t want that potentially to happen - they could of just kneeled the series before and let the game play out. Now if it had played out like the NE/NYJ game the week before - that was running up the score - the Bills were still in football range.

Except this is exactly what and how good teams defend high powered offenses. Lots of zone looks - protect your area and make a tackle. He would be a mediocre LB playing in some systems, but in Buffalo he is a 2 time Pro-Bowl player - having another fine season that most likely ends in another Pro-Bowl invite and is the one of the few guys teams gameplan against on this defense. 2 of his markdowns in this game - were zone coverages - where Milano loses the player and Edmunds closes to make it a tight window throw - they were well timed throws, but both were on the outside coverage man letting the guy get to the dead area before entering Edmunds zone. He also got marked down multiple times for running plays where he filled his hole and the running back cut back to a spot that was vacant. The defense is very dependent on players doing their 1/11th and Edmunds on several cutbacks - had a hole to fill and he did his part. The crashing DE or CB being out of position and allowing a lane does not mean that Edmunds was wrong. If Edmunds had filled the hole to the outside - where the cutbacks went - then a hole would have been opened in the middle where he should have been. There is also a ton of complaints about getting “tricked” by PA passing and that is exactly what PA is meant to do. He has a run responsibility and a pass responsibility- just like most LBs and why is PA passing successful- even if a team can’t run - because the player has to take the run serious and move and in today’s quick pass NFL - 1 step is what opens up a lane. It happens across the league to all LBs. The worst part is people complain he gets no TFL, but then complain that he goes forward on PA. He just is not going to win because even though he is the primary leader on a top ranked defense - he does not make every play perfectly. It may blow some peoples mind, but I think the Bills are very happy with what Edmunds gives them and I expect he will be getting a contract a bit higher than Milano’s (as the market has gone up) and he will be here a while.

You’re right I mean their punt coverage unit isn’t like #1 in the league and kickoff coverage in the top half 🤦‍♂️. Their kickoff returns aren’t 2nd in the league. The special teams just suck. Tyler Bass isn’t leading the league in points or a top 5 FG kicker. Punting is the one spot they could get better, but as they are #1 in fewest punt return yards against - it looks like they value hang time over distance - which is the right call. 🤷‍♂️

Nope - that was the tune back with Vinny Testaverde on the Jets. Then it was Vinny and the Jets, but not with Flacco. He just doesn’t fit it quite right for me.

His height is 6 ft 05 in and 0.1 inches - so just over 6 ft 5. That equates to a rating of 8.03 on a scale of 10 for TEs. The height is set up to handle numbers and look identical so that the computer can assign the grade. 5 foot 10 and 0.2 inches would be put out as 5102 and then for a TE because that is short that number woul equate to a rating of something like 0.4 and it would be Red to signify it is way below acceptable.

This X 1000%. The way he is acting the refusing to look the reporters in the eye. The repeated grasping at the podium and hiding his eyes - all scream lies. If you can’t/don’t want to address the rumors- at least stand there and be honest - most media will at least respect that and move on a bit faster. His posture and actions invited more questions because it just looked like he was not telling the truth. The pauses - the double talk - the aggressive repeating of the questions - they all scream there is something else here - let’s dig at it. Even when McDermott was getting grilled with the uncomfortable COVID questions - the way he would respond (even when he would give no real answer) made it less of an issue. This is an internal discussion - we believe the players have a choice - we provide info and let the choose - etc. No real response, but he answered them took the next question with them and moved forward.

As I said - I can’t say and won’t speculate. He has been considered the best source for the team in the past for years. I am not sure that changes just because the coach/team is starting to fall apart.

From the Miami Herald - his Bio before he left in August of this year: “Armando Salguero Armando Salguero has covered the Miami Dolphins and the NFL since 1990, so longer than many players on the current roster have been alive and since many coaches on the team were in middle school. He was a 2016 APSE Top 3 columnist nationwide. He is one of 48 Pro Football Hall of Fame voters. He is an Associated Press All-Pro and awards voter. He’s covered Dolphins games in London, Berlin, Mexico City and Tokyo. He has covered 25 Super Bowls, the NBA Finals, and the Olympics.” Not that he know everything, but he is “the man” for Dolphins Coverage and has been for the last decade or so. Again does not mean he was right - just some credentials to ponder.

Actually Armando covered the Dolphins for local newspapers for years and is the primary source WGR reaches out to for Dolphins news. He is highly respected for his knowledge and sources within the organization and for several years is the top guy people get info from. He was the Dolphins version of Mary Cabot in Cleveland, but this last year he left the paper to take on a broader role, but I think he has some disdain for Flores at this point. I think Flores has rubbed a lot of the Miami media the wrong way and now when things are not so smooth - the reporters are like vultures circling a dead carcass.

Close, but to big to be Tua More like - Mini-Puffs:

Well - I was reading a thread about how this is the week that Tua blows up and is the QB Miami wants. Just a terrible job by the HC and Flores just looks defeated. He can’t even look the room in the eye. Terrible posture and terrible speaking - he needs to be released. Miami has eaten him up.

Nope - Unless they come up with all new players - I just don’t see him blowing up. He threw for 4 TDs against Atlanta basically using Waddle and the TEs. I don’t see that combination being really effective as the Bills have been playing aggressive. Tua just does not see the down field throws and has been late. I expect him to be the player he is - some good, accurate throws and many more passes into coverage. A few drives slowly moving downfield until you can get a FG, but more resulting in punts, but you can believe what you want.

I don’t think there are any QBs in the upcoming draft - better than Tua or worth that pick. Some guys will get pushed up, but that does not mean they are worth it.

Although I agree that it was obvious that Tyrod was less than ideal - I am not sure that it really applies to this. Many players were on his side including being very upset when Tyrod lost his job to Peterman. I think the general consensus amount players was he was by far the best on the team and he did things to help a team not lose. He was not a winner in that sense, but he was not EJ or Nate. I think the players felt about Tyrod about what the majority of the fan base felt - he can captain the ship, but he isn’t winning any wars. You can do better, but you can do worse. I am pretty sure that is still the consensus as he got a chance in Cleveland to start until injured and a rookie took over, SD/LA where he got shot #3 until Herbert took over, and now Houston with shot #4 until another injury hit. If the players and coaches see him as a complete bust (aka dude doesn’t have it) - he would not keep getting chances and players wouldn’t defend him.

The Bisons play downtown and draw 10,000 and and many go out before the games or after on mid day games. They have done tons of concerts in the parks and Canalside - nearly every Thursday and weekends - and people do the same thing - they ride downtown and then hit bars - hit the concerts and enjoy food and beverages all over downtown. They do other festivals in Canalside and they have local food and brew set up shop to get people eating and drinking local favorites. The bars also draw tons of kids from the colleges. There is a rocking nightlife that already exists in the downtown area. All of these events already support the local markets that are present.

The downtown area already has a ton of Bars, restaurants, hotels, breweries, a casino built currently - they all survive right now without the stadium- just with the normal downtown workday crew. But if 8 times a year for long weekends - you had an additional 15,000+ people downtown using the hotels, breweries, restaurants, etc - to go with the 40 downtown Baseball games and the 40 downtown hockey games and the 15 summer concert series dates - you enhance what is there. The new stadium wouldn’t require all of these things be built - they already exist - it would just give people a place to go. In OP these things are very, very limited - so people come in - bring food and drink - tailgate and spend nothing extra - it is in and out. The area is anchored and has been in place long before and will survive whether the stadium is built or not. The question becomes can a unique Nashville style experience be created downtown that could supplement the income of these locations and even bring in more to build something special. Can you use the casino as an tenet to the stadium, can you build or use a brewery with outside access - that on game days also has an in stadium presence? Can you have some of these local restaurants also provide a great game day meal at the stadium? Can you cross promote to have a Bills/Sabres home weekend package at a hotel with tickets and accommodations? You might even be able to cross promote if a Bills/Sabres opponent is in common - like when the Bills and Sabres both play in Florida and people travel for a weekend. More companies would be nice, but they do not have to drive anything - everything already exists - the planning just needs to get done and the spacing put into place.

I know - what I really hate about that argument is that a stadium is being built either way. One gives economic impact (albeit most likely not enough to cover the cost). The second give no additional economic impact at all. There are plenty of good arguments for and against a stadium anywhere - but no matter where it goes - things are going to change. The owners are going to find ways to get more parking money and more in stadium food money - so my guess is for those that do not want downtown because of a lack of tailgating- just watch what you wish for - the tailgating experience in OP very well could change significantly with the new stadium versus what could be done in another location.

The family I have in Tennessee love the Stadium. They drive in from the Southeast and pretty much get in and out. My understanding talking to them is they like it because having it downtown limits the number of visitors cars and traffic was fine. We went to a Bills game when they came up a few years ago and the traffic in OP was terrible. Getting in and out from the south was difficult and slow. I think it depends upon the goals and what you want. The game day experience is changing and the money is being spent - get the biggest bang for your buck that you can. To me the biggest bang with the biggest buck is downtown. The smallest bang is a new stadium in OP. The wildcard is doing something with UB either downtown or in Amherst and getting 2 Bangs for the buck and what the cost of that is.

This is exactly the point. We read over and over last week about the “Bills takeover” - thousands of fans hitting bars and hotels around the stadium for 3 straight days. Concerts and live music and drinking and food and then a walk to the stadium. Watch the game and if we had won - they would have walked back downtown and drank and partied more and then back to the hotel. There was tailgating, but in a totally different way and it was an amazing time. It should be the experience we are trying to build and support. Local breweries, restaurants, bars, and hotels all along the downtown corridor and use them to enhance an experience. Orchard Park has nothing around the stadium and therefore the experience is dependent on what is brought from outside.

Why did they change the rule? They changed the rule because several high profile QBs (see Brady and Manning - and others) had issues trying to slide while wearing a knee brace. Famously Manning caught his knee on a grass surface sliding when the brace caught and stuck. The idea was even if we are diving head first rather than give the defense free reign to deliver a blow as they make you down by contact - we will accept being down where we first make contact and avoid the hit. It has worked for multiple years - should be fine to continue. If the QB wants the TD - you have to rush the hit in this case - if not they shouldn’t be rewarded for going down and making the defender rush up and hit him - to much risk for to little reward.

If it was clear he was diving for the end zone - why did his knee hit down short? He easily could have dove forward across the line and scored - or even probably made it standing up, but he didn’t. He made a weak dive sideways and got his knee on the ground before crossing the goal line and he did that to AVOID THE HIT. In other words - he gave himself up and should be considered down where he first makes contact with the ground - which is exactly how they called it and marked it. It is not a new rule - so I have no idea why you think they will change it. It has been in place multiple years and they have not reverted back to your suggestion of :”Headfirst = not giving yourself up. Sliding = giving yourself up”. As I said it was done at the request of the competition committee with input from high profile QBs. The idea is to keep them from getting hit. They give them forward progress to the point of contact with the ground or start of the slide and consider them touched down at that spot - so the defenders do not have to rush in. It was correctly called and handled appropriately and it easily could have been a TD if he stays on his feet and takes the hit, but he made the choice to avoid contact and they marked him correctly.