Rochesterfan

I don’t know if we will ever get all the facts, but it has been talked about before - in the off season/pre season they set baseline levels and players have talked about purposely providing dumbed down answers and doing poorly on the cognitive aspect to make it easier in game and post game to pass the concussion protocol. Typically - they quickly move you to the blue tent and begin the cognitive aspect - many times while they are still woozy and then hold them out. I would be super interested in - did the trip to the locker room give him time to gather his senses and did they initiate the cognitive testing immediately or did he tell them his back was the issue and they delayed the cognitive aspect while giving treatment to his back and allowed him more time to “recover” so he could pass. The fault for this situation may not be the independent doctor, but could be the player himself purposely lowered his baseline scores to make it easier to pass and then by going to the locker room gave himself enough time to regain enough cognitive ability to pass. In that case - the independent doctor can only say he passed the testing and can’t hold the player out and to me that is how the response from the NFL and Miami read. Tua passed his testing (they do not say exactly how quickly that was given in this case versus a normal sideline case) and therefore was cleared - The team still should be looking out for these players, but the truth is many of these players fight to come back - which is why helmets get taken away and hidden to protect the player from themselves. In this case the Dolphins cared more about winning the game than a players health and that is terrible. My guess is in the end - the NFLPA will not get anything out of this and hopefully the league will institute some better protocols - like was mentioned previously- if a player experienced any sort of leg wobble, falling down - they are automatically ruled out for the game.

Nope - stupid Trolls are trolls as was stated before. Real Einstein this one. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

No because Bryant was elevated to the 53 man roster and I believe they have 3 elevations from the PS this year - not 2.

I have 2 issues Bolded above. There is risk involved - especially as short yardage and goal line plays tend to lead to potentially bigger hits and more frequent contact. Second we are trying to run Josh less and now people want to go for 2 and run Josh more in these situations. Take the one point and blow people out - save the 2 points for when you need it.

No moves - Bobby Hart - suspended. That is why Mancz was called up - nothing to do with Morse.

My expectations since everything we have seen is they would struggle against teams like the Titans, Rams, Ravens, etc - teams with good DL - to hit 50 %. They struggle in tight situations like that to score and those plays often expose Josh to bigger hits. My preference would be keep doing what they are doing and do not chase points for what at the end of the year equates to about +1 points per game. Math works out to what about 35-40 TDs when the game is in range - about 50% success - 18 - 20 points for the season - 1 point per game - just not enough to make it worth while for the added risk. JMO

Especially since Hyde is traveling with the team - he will be there to make sure these guys are ready and will get everyone together. It was a typical “Hot Take” from Thad.

Maybe, but they do not save much by cutting him - 7million Dead Cap versus 10 million to play. They save a touch over 3 million and maybe his leadership is worth that. I think if he wants to come back - they will make room for him and if he wants to retire - they will work that out.

This is not correct at all. He is out an can not practice for the first 4 weeks. Once the Bills decide to activate him - which they can do at any time after week 4 concludes - they then have 3 weeks of roster exemption for him to practice before they add him to the active roster. So at this point - the only contact with the team is look at his rehab - he can not participate in any on field practice activities at this time until after the Ravens game. The Monday after the Ravens game is the first day they could activate him, but they do not have to - he can stay on PUP longer and still not practice - just as he is now. Once they decide to activate him to active PUP - then the clock starts ticking and they have 3 weeks for him to practice with the team, but still not count. During this 3 weeks at any point the Bills can move him to Active Roster where he will be available to play and will count against the roster and a move will need to be made. The team could decide to move him to active PUP the Monday after the Ravens game - give him the entire Pittsburgh week and the Chiefs week to get back into shape and then activate him to the roster before the Chiefs game (or Pittsburgh if they really wanted to) or they could wait until later in the season if everyone comes back to being healthy. The one thing that is certain is he can not be activated after the Dolphins game - the Ravens game is the 4th week and that is the minimum. Once he clears a hurdle and gets activated and can start practicing- then we will get some answers, but before that - there is little to see or talk about.

I agree - you don’t blame Chubb, but watching that drive - I do blame Hunt who twice went out of bounds well after picking up the 1st downs that cost them a ton of time. Stay inbounds and the Browns win. Now Chubb could of easily just ran out of bounds at the 1 because the 2 minute warning was after his play - so the clock was stopping either way, but I think that had little outcome - it was decisions before and poor coaching after that cost them the game. I agree, but as this was the play that took the clock to the 2minute warning - so the clock was stopping- he could of ran OOB at the 1 - much like he did years ago and guaranteed the win. I don’t blame Chubb - Hunt was a much bigger issue - but that was bad situational football for an offense that entire drive.

I will repeat that Chubb should of known better, but his TD run started at 2:02 - without a 1st down (sliding down inside the 2) the Browns couldn’t run out the clock. The Bonehead was Kareem Hunt - he cost the Browns the game. The Browns scored on a 42 yard drive that took just 35 seconds and was 6 plays, but the biggest issue is twice after getting 1st downs - Hunt ran OB before the 2 minute warning and both times he was well past the 1st down line and just needed to get down. 1st on 3rd and 6 with 2:15 left - Hunt catches an 11 yard swing pass and goes out of bound taking only 6 seconds and leaving the Jets 1 time out. Then after using a timeout on Hunts next run- Hunt breaks outside for 11 yards and goes out of bound with 2:02 left. That was egregious. That made it 1st down from the 12 and of course then Chubb scores. The only chance the Jets had was if Chubb scored and then he did them that favor. That was terrible coaching and more importantly terrible field awareness by 2 veteran players - and I hope that costs the Browns their season. Stupid team, Stupid coach, Stupid organization.

Not only that, but if you watch the DL - AJ goes upfield outside and the other DT and DE both were sliding to the right. I think it was a designed slide right - giving Edmunds the inside gap, but the DT got stoned by the guard and it opened a hole where the DT should of been. You would love to see Edmunds then forgo his gap and fill the opening, but that is not Tremaine - he does his 1/11th and is right where he should be because McD teaches do your responsibilities and allow others to do their responsibility. If Edmunds hits outside and the DT fights through - suddenly you leave a gap in the middle. Without benefit of knowing the call - I do not blame Edmunds and to go a step further - The DT got moved backwards into Edmunds and that limited his flow once he was sure his area was secure.

My take is if the Bills had resigned Wallace as many wanted - most likely Wallace and Jackson would have been starting. Benford (and Elam for that manner) are both way more gifted physically than Wallace and both can make plays Wallace simply couldn’t, but they also have a benefit of a pass rush in week 1 that was devastating and a team in week 2 that was limited at WR. I would most definitely take Benford and Elam (and Jackson) over Wallace - especially long term, but there will be games where they get tricked and Wallace would have done his job. To me Wallace is like Edmunds - he manages to do his job correctly almost 100% of the time, but that means many times he is not in the best place to make a huge play - he just make the steady correct play and move on to the next down. I think they wanted more at CB and therefore you have Elam and Benford locked and loaded - long term improvements in place.

Overall - once again it shows McD and the coaching staff know and understand the team better than the fans. They recognized Game 1 in prime time is a tough spot to insert a rookie full time. They split time with the CBs, didn’t give Cook a go until the initial emotions settled and he still fumbled, made Shakir inactive - They recognized the difficulties. Shakir will be fine - he and Josh have almost no time together on the practice field and Josh is not a 3 step drop and throw to a spot QB - it takes time to understand how to read Josh and be on the same page. Nothing in game 1 discourages me - it is the start of a long path, but he was not ready and Moss - even with all of his faults - was ready and that is why he is dressed for now.

I know - maybe if you lookin a mirror you will find out. It is pretty easy.

I don’t know about that, but the real issue is that twice prior to that Hunt went out of bounds including the play before with 2:02 left. If Chubb goes down the clock stops with 1:55 and it is 2nd down (unless he just slides at the 2, but either way the bigger issue was Hunt. Did anyone notice who the holder for the Browns is? Good old Bojo holding on a missed XP - coincidence? Hmm.

I said he should of just slide in bounds. Earlier on the drive - twice Hunt went out of bounds on runs to the sideline. Bad coaching and worse execution.

Another Gem from Einstein. Love that any troll can just post whatever garbage flows through the tiny brain. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

My god this is just terrible. Dane was tackling a bigger receiver and Edmunds was rallying to the ball. Burks dropped as he saw Edmunds coming causing Edmunds to go over the top. If Edmunds doesn’t rally and Burks breaks away people complain that why didn’t he make the play. Friendly fire happens all the time - Diggs does that same thing where he just drops and the coming defender hits another defensive player that is on top. Edmunds was never going to get penalized for that play and it is not done to get Stats - it is done as part of team tackling - everyone get there and take these guys to the ground. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Yeah and only on TBD can you find “fans” that complain about how a guy is slow, lacks instincts, can’t make plays, doesn’t tackle, etc. and then also complain when said player comes up to hit a guy and make sure he is down and when that guy ducks accidentally hits his own player. That happens all the time and it especially happens to players flying around making plays including some HOF level players. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Two Pittsburgh Kids - very close. Got to be super tough.

So you think Matt is making it up? What is the point of this comment? Who are the 2 Friendly Fire? Dane was obviously. Poyer got hurt making a solo tackle - hit his head on thigh. Phillips got hurt in the open field running all alone looking to make a block. Milano got a stinger destroying the QB 1 on 1. Who am I missing?

Not according to the OP. I believe the quote was we have not drafted anywhere near enough high impact players. LOL

Agreed - Question Beane with what these guys have drafted and retained. 🤦‍♂️