Rochesterfan

Nope - there are differences in how I consume the NFL now, but my passion is still there. In the past - I would watch pregame shows on ESPN because I loved Boomer and the guys and it was fun - then I would watch the post game to see highlights and anything else I missed - again Boomer and TJ were awesome to watch. Now I have no desire to watch Pre or Post game - the people are just annoying- guys like Irving, Chris Carter, Randy Moss, Faulk, and a variety of coaches just give me nothing at all worth listening to. Post game - you can go on the internet and get stats, scores, big plays, etc both live and after the game no need for sports center or NFL network post game shows. I consume much more NFL right now than ever before - including time on this board - I also have access to way more information than ever before and I think it is great.

Nice response - I am his mom because you called out a guy on a play that he did his job and made the TD possible. Just because you are wrong and 90% of the board saw it and called you out to the point you were being ridiculed and the Mods had to close the thread - that is not my fault. Refute the video evidence. Did he not block his guy and move him off to the guard? Did he not then see the blitzing/stunting player come up the middle and stone him and move him 3 feet to the offenses left making a nice lane for Allen to step up and make the throw? Yes after knocking the Browns player out of the way he looks back to see if he can pick up anything else just before Allen makes the throw, but that was after he had already done his job and kept the middle of the field open and gave Josh the space to make the play. As I stated - there are plenty of plays that Bodine gets blown up and moved back toward the QB and the line looks significantly better with Groy at center, but this was not the play to try and prove that. Bodine makes a nice back-up and gives the Bills some veteran depth- I hope the Bills start Groy because I think he is the better player. If Redmond learns how to shotgun snap - maybe he beats out Bodine and we can cut him, but right now the difference between Bodine and Groy is not huge and may have just as much to do with who is at QB as it does with their actual play. McCarron is a sack machine right now.

That is because it it was a horrible take for the play in question. The several film clips added to that hot take proved you totally wrong. Most people in the thread agree that Bodine is not a great player, but on the play you called him out for - he blocked his guy and moved him off to a guard and stoned a second rusher that was coming through the middle and knocked him 3 feet out of the way and then he turned to see if there was anyone else to pick up toward Allen. On that play you called him out for he not only did his job, but was exceptional as he helped moved multiple people out of the way allowing Allen to move up in the pocket to avoid the pressure from outside. That play did not illustrate your point at all. The funny thing is there are many other choice you could have made that do support your take, but the one you made was flat out wrong - which is why people went after you and the thread got closed. Overall back to the original point - this is not a surprise nor does it mean he can not work out, but the line looks better with Groy at this point.

Teams don’t agree to do the show. They have not had volunteers in years. Teams have been voluntold you are doing this - the NFL had to create a set of guidelines to force teams into the show. The NFL loves the publicity- the teams do not seem to like the drama and the light they are put under, but try to make the most of it. I think it has made some teams (Dolphins under Philbin - Cle this year) look like absolute train wrecks.

I would not think so. I think they were legitimately hoping the injured punter showed a lively leg to make the team better and with that injury - I think they are looking for help. Schmidt is pretty good, but he has very bad moments. If they can find someone that eliminates the bad and is able to maintain the good - a replacement will happen.

Agreed it it is a difficult thing and my heart and prayers go out to him. The problem is losing his dad did not trigger this. This was was triggered by something much earlier as the first real indication we had was the bizarre twitter rants. Something changed prior to that that triggered that behavior and since then it has been a spiral and this latest death just pushes it further over the edge. My hope is now maybe in a controlled situation- he can get some help he needs to get everything back under control with his mental illness. The players have reached out to try and help, the family sounds like they tried earlier to help, now maybe Richie with this arrest at a low point will accept the help and get whatever he needs to get through this. If not at this low point - the next lower point is a very dark place indeed.

What are you talking about - wanting back. The Bills had him under contract - he flipped out fired his agent on twitter and retired via twitter. His health was so bad he “could not” play - his kidneys were shutting down. When he decided he wanted to play - then his contract was a problem and he wanted to be released. The Bills granted that. We do not know what kind of help was offered to him, but we know several Players reached out and I imagine the FO did also, but Richie was gone by then and within days he was throwing dumbbells in FL. This is not on the Bills at all as far as I am concerned. They got lucky and got out of the line of Fire for something that was coming regardless of if he was still on the team or not.

We had a signed contract with him. Not coming back was his choice. The Bills, his agent, and Richie agreed to a new contract and everything was there. A month later Richie decides on Twitter to fire his agent and retire. He had football, but something went off and that is on him. From what you hear - family, friends, teammates have all reached out, but if he doesn’t want help there is little you can do. Since then you have had the incident at the gym, his bizarre twitter support of Shady, his weird interaction on social media about the Vikings including calling a respected head coach a liar and other nasty things - including the fact that he does not want to be a part of training camp. Now you have the death of a father and then this outburst and arrest. It is sad, but it was not about Buffalo - all of this is on Ritchie and if he wants to get right he will need to accept help.

What era era are we playing in and what age are the QBs. If we are playing in the 90’s with tighter coverage, more bump and run, and QBs that could just get destroyed on each rush - give me Kelly as he was much tougher and could take the hits and had a better arm. If we are playing in 2018, it is more cerebral because the QB has more time to read and the DBs cannot play as tight - a guy like Brady can succeed much better than a guy like Kelly. What stinks is a guy like Marino with his incredible arm talent and quick release can thrive in either era. I also think a guy like Brady has more success across every era than a guy like Jim does, but both would be good players no matter the era, but specifically in the 1990’s - I think Jim’s brand of leadership and style fit better and would take a team further.

I am honestly not sure. Before the injury to McCarron - I thought they would start Josh this week to get a chance to see him with the ones for a quarter and use some of game four for gameplanning. With the injury, I think it could go either way. I really like what I have seen from Josh, but make no mistake those have been mostly bland defenses even with the extra pressure. I think he is the better prospect, but I am not sure he is ready. I voted Peterman because I think the injury changes McDermott’s mind and he decides to start the slightly more experienced player in week one and now uses game 3 to see if he can handle a somewhat gameplanned start. I also think maybe he tries to give Allen a bit more time than normal with some of that time in the second quarter with the ones. It is interesting, but I just don’t know what they have thrown at Allen and how ready he is to recognize and change based on blitz and coverage packages.

I think this this is a very important point. The Browns ran for 65 yards on the first drive where the Bills did not game plan. The Bills played mostly nickel coverage against some different formations and I do not think they were ready. After the first drive and the DC getting his hands on the film - they mostly bottled the Browns up the rest of the half giving up less yards to backs on the subsequent 5 drives. They did not play well, but the coaches figured out things and the players improved after the first series. I think much like the Bills last week - this was the Browns home opener and there were lots of story lines and the Browns wanted t come out and dominate and they planned their first series giving them a massive advantage. The Bills played a fairly Vanilla game plan on the road both offensively and defensively and I think that hurt their run defense. Long term like last year - there are going to be games where they get gashed because they run nickel against a team that wants to pound the rock - like NO last year, but they will improve as the season goes on.

Totally disagree - Colleges have 100+ players on rosters and run in both spring and summer inter squad games that are essentially preseason games. Colleges also do not schedule important games for most teams until week 3 or 4 - again a warm up games typically against teams a division below them. Additionally a guy getting hurt in practice versus a preseason game is no different - so why not eliminate training camps completely. You draft your players and then start game 1. I would prefer to see it drop to 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games, and 2 additional reason games at the end of the summer where 4 teams get together and create some teams of guys eligible for the practice squad to give some rookies and young players more opportunities to be seen and play. The next CBA will be huge to see if changes are made, but I suspect we will still have at least 3 preseason games which is fine.

The funniest part is even if the first the Browns offered was the Texans pick - NE could have gotten what ended up being #4 overall and replaced Jimmy with potentially a player like Mayfield and had the continued success for years.

No - they knew a full year in advance that 4 or 5 prospects from 2018 would have a shot at being better than Mahomes in 2017. McDermott also knew that if you want to pick for long term success at the most important position - you want to do the most scouting with guys you trust and guys that see things the same way. Mahomes in 2017 made no sense with what the Bills had for a roster and FO. Watson made some sense because he was a mobile QB, quiet leader, and from all accounts a good student of the game. He would have fit in with TT and been a better fit. Picking Mahomes at that point would have been a disaster. As it turned out - they got themselves a top flight CB, a higher potential and better QB prospect, and a better MLB prospect because of the Mahomes and Ragland trades. I do not question that at all.

I do not disagree that TT can show him how to be professional, but I do not think Mayfield is going to necessarily pick that up from TT - especially as TT struggles in the passing game. I think you will (and already have in some cases) see Mayfield with his personality - go against what TT is doing because he is a very different type of leader. It may work out, but I think the combination and the quiet personality that TT brings is more of a detriment to the type of player Mayfield is. I also would fear that Baker at this point giving partial effort is already a better player that TT and that may color how Baker goes in the future.

I could not disagree more. I do not seem them as similar at all - in fact I think that bringing in TT was a huge mistake for the Browns in trying to mentor Baker. Baker is a rhythm passer with excellent accuracy that uses the entire field. I think he will be a great fit for that offense once they let him start. He will use all of the weapons and will open up the running game for the Browns in the future. TT does not throw in rhythm- he is a see the guy open and then throw type of passer that is going to tick off a guy like Landry - that will destroy his RAC ability for the season. It will also be fun to watch Haley (a guy that got into it with Big Ben) with TT - he will design plays that work, but the ball will be late and it will cause issues. The reason they got TT was because they knew from the last couple of years they were not going to get a FA QB worth a darn and they were going to draft a QB #1 - so they wanted a veteran on a short contract to give them something this year in case Baker is not ready. At this point - Baker is already far superior to TT (as he should be based upon talent levels) and he could do more in this offense than TT, but much like Jeff Fisher for the Rams - Hue is a bad coach that made up his mind and I doubt anything will change it until he is fired and Haley takes over and makes the change.

I don’t fully disagree, but Allen also missed a pretty easy blitz that led to his sack, Peterman saw a similar blitz and found the open TE for a touchdown. The TD play was the good you get with Allen, the missed Blitz/sack and the 4th down in game 1 were the bad. What we we have not seen is how he reacts if teams game plan for Allen specifically. He has a visible weakness with quick short passes to the RB - especially to the left it seems. He also looks uncomfortable when under pressure from blitzes. If teams blitz from the right and force that time and again - how does he deal - we don’t know yet. That does not mean don’t start him, but Peterman for whatever you want to say has completed 85% (missed 3 for the entire preseason) of his passes in the two weeks and has 2 TDs and has taken only one sack for no loss of yards. It is not like Peterman has looked inept. He just is no where near as dynamic as Allen.

I don’t disagree - I just think if we are being asked if they should start him because he gives him the best chance to win or wait until he is ready - that could be 2 different times. Much like Watson/Savage - Watson gave them the best chance (seen throughout the pre-season), but he was not really ready to start as seen by some of his mistakes once he started playing. I think getting him in - even if he is not totally ready still gives him the best chance to learn and grow, but you need to accept he is going to make mistakes and maybe cost us a game here or there.

To me is was the correct call, but close. They are making an effort to prevent these big hits when a guy is no longer a threat. You see it with the helmet hits with the second man in and you will see it more with these types of plays where the guy is tackled and someone piles on late. There was time to stop if they wanted to - I believe.

I really do not know- I think the Bills are the better team and I expect the Browns to change HC at some point this season, but the Bills early schedule and road travels could have a big impact if they get off to a slow start. In the end - I thinks the Bills will be better because of Coaching and Teamwork. I think the Browns will be internally battling esp with WR going after TT because they are not getting the touches.

I do think Allen with his talent could give them a better shot at winning, but still not be ready. I think the Texans were in that same boat last year. Watson gave them the best chance at winning, but he was really not ready to start. After the bad first half, the Texans played Watson and he did good things and bad things. The question is can you live with the mistakes as he grows. I think Allen has shown he gets a bit over excited to start with - he seems to struggle more early with high and off target throws. I would almost prefer to see if sit a bit and not have to come in right away so he has time to relax and get into the flow. His talent is just to much to keep on the bench long if they want to win this year.

Maybe look to the front page and the multiple o-line threads for an answer.

Good thing you are back and trolling again. So the starting o-line looked bad with McCarron as QB and that should impact all decisions- glad you are not in the FO. That same #1 o-line gave Peterman in week 1 enough time and space to be successful and Allen seemed ok behind the same line. McCarron struggled behind the 2nd line in week 1 - so maybe it is not the line as much as the QB.

First of Waaaaaah - I mean you want to give the GM and the scouts that traded up for Watkins in the deepest WR class perhaps in history and the scout and GM that drafted EJ a chance to make a selection of Mahomes - WHY? McDermott knew that Mahomes QB class was suspect and that Allen’s class was considered much better. They knew Mahomes had a ton of issues and most “experts” had him in the middle to bottom third of the round because of his college offense and his TOs. They knew he had a cannon, but he needed a lot of work and the Bills had a QB they wanted to see what he could do. I think you way overvalue Mahomes and your opinion on him and you did not like Allen as a prospect so you equate two totally different players to try and make a point. The Bills may have like Mahomes, but you would have been going completely on a GM and staff that failed on so many picks and McDermott is smarter than that. If you can not see his process which is slow and deliberate, but you question why in 3 short months he would draft a QB that he did not scout and trust a GM that was going out the door, then the fault lies with you. I am not curious at all because it was obvious that last year was about McDermott instilling his ethos on the team and making picks based upon what he wanted in year 1 - nearly every pick was a 4 year starter and team leader - why - because I believe that gave him a chance to draft quality players based upon the scouts the Bills had and the players he knew from Carolina. Year 2 (draft 1 with Beane) was about getting talent because they had established the team identity. Plus he now had a GM that was on the same page and had scouted, talked with, interviewed, and did background checks on the players and could give a similar grade so they could grow together. To me it was easy build a team - get the QB that your long term front office wants. It makes to much sense. Plus how do you think Mahomes would have progressed watching TT run an offense - it would have stunted his growth more. Mahomes got to watch an actual QB have a career year and learn how to use all parts of the field. Mahomes is an easy bust in Buffalo with the staff from last year and TT at QB. Allen has a shot to be special.

Agreed - a lot better