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As far as I know most people love the Gronkster.
He's a beast of a football player and he's entertaining as hell.
I've given up hating the Pats I've just accepted they'll always be great until Brady leaves.
I have nothing but respect for them now. Now the Phish, I'll always hate those guys. Them and their fans. Terrible, terrible creatures, imo.
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I genuinely appreciate this blunt take.
Good to hear the perspective of the 'younger' fans that can't eat the 90's memberberries.
If I didn't live those teams at an impressionable age I highly doubt I would care at all anymore.
I've actually had this exact some convo with my brother who just recently turned 30.
All he's seen is a middle of the pack, mediocre squad. He loves the team, but he's said alot of what peevos is saying. All he knows about the glory years is what I went on an on about. Just sounds like fairy tales to him.
He actually jokes that I'm the one responsible for making him a fan of this team and all its done is being him heartache. I laughed, it was a joke. but seriously, it's got some truth to it.
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Our team sucking for the last 15 years takes nothing away from the greatness of the 90's teams.
While the Bills have struggled on the field, I have still very much enjoyed watching all those contributors (Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, James Lofton, Bruce Smith, Ralph Wilson, Bill Polian and Marv Levy) get inducted into the Hall of Fame. Although we never won a Super Bowl, seeing all those guys getting rewarded for their play does bring some justification.
Their accomplishments are still their own. Nothing can be taken away from the team.
But speaking as someone who actually went to the hof and watched a few of those guys get inducted because of how much they meant to me I can honestly say it doesn't feel the same in my opinion.
It may very well have nothing to do with the Bills. Maybe it's just adulthood, maybe it's just real life things happening making it seem less important and more like a game and entertainment.
Could be a bunch of stuff. But I carve out every Sunday to watch this team, and it always meant so much.
Now, not so much. I'm hoping some meaningful games can change that around for me.
I'm with the OP though. I get it, good or bad I always had the 90's, the squish the fish newspaper cut outs in everyone's windows, the team you knew backwards and forwards, it fueled my positive experience (no matter how crummy the team was playing) for years.
Even those memories aren't getting it done for me these days. I've said it before, I'll always watch, they'll always be my team. But the importance of that seems to be fading.
Maybe the disconnect are the fans ages. Me and OP were kids. These players were basically our heroes. Heroes tend to fade with time. Maybe some if you guys were already adults and it was fun, but these guys weren't like your personal gods like they were to kids in the 90's.
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I'll always have the nostalgia for that team and those players but maybe the degree of nostalgia/passion is wearing away.Why does nostalgia wear off? It's nostalgia.
Obviously I'll always look back fondly on those years but for a long time those Bills and those Sunday's growing up really fueled my football fire.
I feel like it's slowly being extinguished over time.
Like I said, opening day I always have those same butterflies. But in keeping up with the analogy it's kind of like every year a few die off.
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I definitely know how you feel. I was the guy that everyone would give Bills stuff too for every birthday and xmas.This post pretty much sums up exactly what I was getting at with my original post
I had to eventually tell people I didn't have anymore room because I just wasn't feeling it anymore.
It was actually a really sad day the first time I dvrd a game and didn't watch it live (I'd never even think of foong that before) but I was getting tired of spending my entire Sunday getting bummed over a team that wasn't even competing for anything in November.
Like you I was a kid watching the glory years, and the feeling stuck wth me probably a lot longer than it should have.
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I lived off of the feeling from those years for the past few decades.
My basement was completely decked out in 90's Bills memorabilia.
About three years ago i packed it all up and moved on. The Bills are still my team, I'll always get the opening day butterflies, but there's only so long you can look at the same Thurman, Reed, Kelly, Bruce stuff. It started feeling a bit sad like I was living in the past.
I'm hoping one day those old butterflies come back in full force but they've been dying out for years.
Thus fanbase needs something new to cheer about in the worst way.
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One of the most ignorant comments in the history of TBD. Hardy was the very definition of "inability to gain separation" whereas Watkins' main strength is the ability to do just that.
Phucking trolls have taken over.
Terrible reading comprehension has taken over.
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Said exactly what I wanted to.Yes, it is...
What you mean to say is "that's not how I meant it".
Honestly, it's okay.
We've all mis-stated things before.
So you're still going to go at this topic without a scintilla of factual evidence to support your stance?
A highlight vid means nothing. Just as my example pointed out, I can find at least two for James Hardy.
Not at all a comparison. The point was... even the worst players have highlight vids.
The fact that you didn't take it that way says more about you than me.
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Nope...you made the comparison. It's okay if you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it reads.
That's not at all how it reads.
Not a comparison, you guys need help.
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Or you truly don't understand what you're reading.Maybe he should be a CB with that fancy back pedaling footwork.
Right! Because NFL players never sustain injuries.
There was never a comparison of Hardy to Watkins.
Only that videos mean nothing because everyone has some. A good highlight reel does not an elite player make.
If you truly had a problem putting that together you might want to think about night school.
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37 games with 153 catches for 2459 yards and 17 TDs. Pretty darned good production.
It's certainly not terrible. But those tootsies.
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How did anyone get a Sammy Watkins-James Hardy comparison based off what I said? Worst is the rest of you that just followed along with it like a bunch of non-fact checking sheep.
Man, some serious need of reading comprehension around here.
"What, someone said James Hardy? Must be comparing him to Watkins, zomg!" (Please read that in the tone of a slow witted cave troll)
You can find a clip or two for anyone in the NFL. A clip doesn't mean anything. Does Sammy have some fun clips out there? Of course, but I'll take a guy who has less clips and more production anyday.
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James Hardy has some fun TD vids too.
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First off, just because someone has a good season with one team doesn't mean they would with another.Yea.
I understand the concept McDermott and Beane want in players of being durable, but that is A LOT to ask for in this league.... EVERYONE gets injured and EVERY team goes through it. It's just the nature of the game.
Having depth and/or a quality QB who can help carry your team makes up for the injuries to your starters.
Still, it will be a mistake if Sammy misses a game or two and still has a great year but McDermott and company let him walk. It would be same old Bills spinning the wheels.
Secondly, you whiffed again. Same old Bills would be having just enough stars on the team to be perfectly mediocre.
Are we watching the same Bills? It's almost like the Bills always did the exact opposite of what you think they did.
Bizarro Bills.
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Right back atcha... We'd have Byrd, Mario, Hogan, and Gilmore eating up half of our budget.Very rare a player wants to be in Buffalo when the team blows.
If the team is winning I guarantee Watkins will have no problem playing here.
I'm glad your not GM.👍🏻
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Man, if you are calling the guy that played 77% of the games "Mr. Glass" what the hell did you call Julio Jones when he played less than 71% through his 1st 3 years??
Mrs. Glass
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He was awful on one foot in this game. Definitely not an impact, playmaking guy in any sense.
Ooh... 7 catches, my hair is on fire from that burn!!!
Save it, if your argument is this tired what's the point?
I could post videos of games he didn't play in, or didn't make much of an impact in. Would that prove my point?
No, you're grasping at straws.
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I didn't say anything about letting him walk because he wants to leave.Being smarter then the Bills FO hasn't been very difficult throughout the drought. They have made numerous head scratching decisions that I've immediately questioned and proven to be right about.
I understand the reason not to pick up the option. His foot. If he proves he can stay healthy for 16 games he will have a big year and they'd be stupid not to extend or franchise him.... Despite what Watkins wants.
Letting great players walk because they don't want to be here is asinine.... And my guess is that will change when the team FINALLY starts winning.
i want something for him because Mr. Glass can't be counted on in the most crucial moments.
That's what you need from a guy that will command as much as Watkins will from us.
Bending to his will because of his supposed elite status is asinine.
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We had a crowded backfield and he was on his second strike. Not at all the same.Marshawn Lynch.
You don't have to let him walk. Not sure why this needs repeating. Its called the franchise tag.
Also, your premise is based on if Sammy deserves to be tagged. That's a huge if, how do you not understand that?
His option wasn't picked up for a reason. You think that reason is because they believe he'll light it up this year??
You're either smarter than the FO our talking out of your behind.
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Quintessential "Billsy". Buy high and sell low is how the Bills roll!
Even more Billsy: the Bills trade Watkins for a late second rounder who turns out to be a journeyman WR or RB, and Watkins goes on to have a HOF career.
Can you name one other time the Bills have done this?
Maybe people don't understand what they mean when they say "Billsy"?
The opposite is true, if the Bills kept the player until they walked away in free agency for nothing, THAT would be Billsy.
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His point was under the assumption that someone posting this question on a Bills board, would be a Bills fan.....aren't we supposed to sweep the Jets and Fins EVERY year which has worked out how?............
I also misunderstood the question until I realized the poster was a Packers fan.
Would do if you played in the NFC North? If you had to play us, Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit? You think you would sweep us?
If you didn't know the OP was a Packers fan the question looks like he's asking if we'd sweep ourselves.
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Fans can be dumb and advocate stupid things like getting rid of Sammy because of a lot of ignorant and emotional responses but the fact that our FOis doing this is disturbing.
Wow... "dumb" and "stupid" in one post. You must be super smart to be able to call people both.
i know lots of really bright people that instead of forming solid arguments of their own just call the opposition names.
They're usually in grade 1-5, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't listen. I mean it's obvious you know best, so we should probably just concede.
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How awesome would it be to have 3 First round picks?
Watkins is damaged, let's get what we can, and build this team.
Imo
Omg... I haven't been here long, but long enough to know an endorsement from the almighty Leroi is pretty close to having your baby kissed by the pope.
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I'm not just saying this because most of it happens to coincide with my own beliefs.First of all, you always listen to trade offers---doesn't mean you do it, but you'd be a fool not to at least listen to what is being offered.
I also agree that you should rarely give up elite talent and if they did trade Sammy, I would hope that it is at least for a 1st. Of course,
I'd much rather Sammy stay, stay healthy, and become a consistent elite player for the Bills for years to come. But, it's not an easy
call with Sammy.
Sammy has played in 37 of a possible 48 games (missing 11 games), although he was limited by injury in probably another 10-14 of the games he did play.
He is averaging 66 yds/game and .68 TDs/game.
Looking at the stats, Sammy's had like 12 games that could be considered elite level (10 100-yard games, although only 3-multiple-TD games).
That's just under 1/3 of the games he's played, and if you include the games he's missed, then over the last 3 years, the Bills got
elite-level Sammy for 25% of their games. In a 16-game season that would be 4 games of elite-level play. That's not enough. Of course, coaching,
scheme, QB play, etc. all play into it too, but you're not going to pay elite money for 4 games a year.
I hope Sammy stays, remains healthy, and fully reaches his potential, but you can't blame the club either for taking a hard look at the situation
and having some healthy debate on whether to stick with him or move on. I'd rather see him play this year before making that decision, but if
the foot still nags him this year, or if he gets another injury then you're probably getting nothing for him next year. So, you have to at least think about it.
Along with versatility and character, McDermott seems to put a high price on durability as well.
(apropos clichés: Can't make the club in the tub; the best ability is availability)
This is one hell of a post.
Do all Bills fans hate Gronk?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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We'd be paying a huge sum of money to watch him block.