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Fitz and Vince are polar opposites. Fitz was a 7th round pick with average athleticism. Most people with his natural talent level would not make it past a training camp, but he worked hard enough to have an over 10 year career as a stop gap starter/backup. On the other side, Vince Young had the talent to be a franchise quarterback for years but could not keep his head on straight. As a result, he was pretty much out of football within 5 years. His attitude and work ethic have help him back. Vince was wrong to make that statement.

This is too much like Golden State in the NBA. It really ruins the structure and integrity of the league. Not sure what to say beyond that, I hate that the NFL is going further and further down this path.

I looked up his profile on wikipedia. Apparently he is now a lawyer practicing in Texas. Good for him, but I cant help but feeling a worry that some poor Texan is being sentenced 25 years hard time for driving 55 in a 40.

In some countries, a punch in the nose is expected as a tip for good service in lieu of money. Nigel is a good guy for still tipping after slow service.

Possible, but backup running back is a concern. That is what the preseason is supposed to solve.

I don't see anything wrong with giving him the same shot as the other backup running backs on the roster. If he doesn't have it anymore, maybe Buffalo can give him some type of coaching role.

I felt the same way before the draft when there was talk of Buffalo selecting Mike Williams.

The quarterback depth is better than last year and past seasons by a long shot, but not good enough to trade Taylor. If you trade him you have someone in Yates who will never be more than a backup and two recent mid round picks with little to no experience. If this year does not work out, than maybe, but this team seems determined to be a contender this year.

Congratulations to Cardale Jones. Regardless of what happens in his NFL career he took a step that will help him in the future.

Lets come up with our own slogans. "Make good things happen because we are good", "winning is fun, lets do it!" "It'll be different this time, I promise" "Buffalo will make your wildest dreams come true, just believe!" End results is what truly matters to fans at this point.

Sounds horrible. Like a cheesy corporate slogan. I was recently laid of due to a building closure from a large company. They had corporate slogans such as "be the reason" and "change energizes", both we're always a running joke within the day to day work in the building. This cheesy slogan has no impact on whether or not Buffalo can be successful next year.

I can see the comparison to Edwards. When Edwards was drafted, he reminded me more of Reich than Kelly. As we all know, Edwards was decent for awhile but his play dropped off extremely quickly. The concussion may have factored in, but i think it was more among the lines of teams having more film on him and figuring him out. After leaving Buffalo, his confidence was shattered and he never recovered. In a different circumstance, I believe that Edwards could have had a career as a game manager backup similar to Orton or Hoyer. As far as Peterman, I see him being that type of player too. If Buffalo doesn't rush him and develops him correctly, he could have a nice career.

What would Hundley add that Jones and Peterman couldn't potentially do that justifies giving something up for him? I kind of get the threads, due to years of Buffalo being reactive instead of proactive at QB, but those days are done. Gone are the days of having Thigpen, Lewis and Tuel as backups. Buffalo is finally thinking correctly on trying to get a quarterback. Taylor has a chance to prove himself this year and if he doesn't there are two prospects that we are developing in Peterman and Jones. In a worse case scenario, there is an extra first round pick to use as leverage to grab a first round quarterback in a good class. There is no need to trade for someone else's leftovers anymore

It easy to be a fan of the team that the NFL has every rule and script set to favor. How many of these pats fans liked the team in 2000? I guarantee that most of the current "fans" of the Patriots are either Millennials with no loyalty, or if they are old enough to know better liked the Cowboys in the 90's and the 49ers in the 80's.

I don;t mind the move but the timing is strange. Why not do that before the draft?

I don't have a problem with this pick. I am always for adding a QB in the draft until you get the right person. Now you have Peterman who is fundamentally sound but may not have the best arm vs Cardale who is very athletic but raw in development. Polar opposites. I think those two are competing for a spot on the roster with Yates as the backup. If both stand out, maybe Yates is gone. Regardless, there is now competition for depth at quarterback. This definitely beats the Tyler Thigpen, Jeff Tuel, Thad Lewis days.

I saw that live, you wont see it on the op's video, but I thought that Stephen A. Smith was trying to bait him about wanting to be in Philadelphia way too much. The guy on the right was a jerk too. McCoy actually handled himself pretty well, that interview was a complete waste of his time.

Part of the intrigue is that, this was posted at 4 in the morning and had a high level of intensity. There is a better than average chance that the OP is just waking up now and has no memory of posting this.

Makes sense, thanks for replying. I cringed too when seeing Buffalo trading up both times, thinking "what now!" . When Jones was picked, some fake news site said that they gave up the 2nd round pick and both 3rd rounders for Zay Jones. I believed it and was like "not again" We've been burned in the past by that. Once I saw what the actual trades were, I was not upset. I was personally happy that Buffalo got the extra picks on the trade down and manged three picks in the first two rounds. They did trade up which has gone horribly in the past, but gave up a 5th rounder and the 3rd rounder that they got n the first trade. That is not too much, if these drafted players work out. Hopefully the draft turns out better than so many have in the last 17 years.

What would you have done differently?

The mind wanders into dark places in the late hours of the night, All kidding aside, I'm just curious to know what the original poster would have done different. He seemed pretty intense and sure of his opinion, so he must have a better alternative.

My mistake, I'll just go ahead and edit that, lol.

There have been bad trade up picks in the past, but this time they didn't give up that much. They lost the third rounder that they got from Thursday's trade and a fifth rounder. Buffalo has three picks in the top 2 rounds and 3 picks today, And there is an extra first rounder next year . I personally do not think that this is too bad considering that they had just 6 picks a couple weeks ago. It remains to be seen how these players do, but the strategy was sound this time.

As far as receivers, I think we are set now. We needed a #2 option, which Jones fills. Holmes and Brown are good options as 3 and 4 and an upgrade over what we had there last year. I agree with the rest. Would love to see some defensive depth added with today's picks.

Wow, this was different. One trade down and two trade ups. We got three top 2 round players that fill needs and still have 3 players for depth tomorrow. This sure beats Jauron doing nothing and reaching for mid round picks in the first and second round, It also beats trading up a kings ransom for a good but not great player. Nobody knows exactly how three picks will work out but they just turned 6 meh picks a month ago into this result plus a first rounder next year. Nobody can knock the strategy.