Don't watch ESPN, haven't for years but your response doesn't include anything that shows what I said is false. Like it or not the Patriots have the stigma of cheating and it is based on what they have been caught doing. You can't debunk facts and I do know a lot of Pats fans and they say what you say but there are no goods to back them up. I don't see another team's fans in the NFL that will stand at their defense, in division and outside of it. Hopefully it is a fun game and my assertion of them cheating doesn't mean I don't think they are a great team but when you have the history they have, I am just not sure what they have done outside of the rules and I believe many fans of the game feel this way.