[2023 Offseason Primer: Offensive Line]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

WARNING - these do get a little long sometimes.

 

OK here we are the first position group offseason primer.  I think I am going to start with the OL.  The issue is with the OL most of the time it performs and doesn’t perform as a single cell organism.  That is how you want your OL to play as a single unit so it gets hard looking at individual players absent the group as a whole but I will work it. 

 

The way I structure these as those that have not read them before I will talk Financials, Pending Bills UFAs, on contract players, Notable UFAs (don’t spend much time here as with no idea with Tags and re-signings, but will mention some notables), Some notable draft picks from my early draft work, And then what I would do is I was the Bills.  I then add the past writeups to the end of the post via links.

 

The standard disclaimer:  I use SPOTRAC (primarily) sometimes will use OverTheCap as well for the salary and contract information.  I will also use profootball reference (primary) for stats.  Also this isn’t meant to be a complete wrap-up of the past season but more so a look at in the future, obviously I will look back at times to talk about how I see the future.

 

So here we go …

 

Financials:

Contracted players: 39 with a cap hit of $230.498M

Cap Space (top 51): -5.464M

 

Offensive Line – 5 players on contact (Spotrac shows 6 however that is because they are accounting for Saffolds void year as well he isn’t on the team) taking up 15.59% of CAP, 22rd highest in the NFL.

 

Interesting here, with only 5 players on Contract we are taking up 15.59% of the cap, so this will have to be addressed and changes need to be made, we will bring at least 5 players in, most likely closer to 7 to 9 to fill out the 90.  Good thing is there is some flexibility financially in the group that I will get to as well so you can improve the group most likely with the money that you can gain from inside the group if this is done right.    

 

Also the players that all played well under Bobby Johnson (Dawkins, Morse (not as much), Bates and Brown all regressed with Kromer as coach.  That has to be looked at and that is a lot of regression on the OL group and with two of them that have been solid players in the past for a long time, that to me is something significant to evaluate. I am not sure if there are better OL coaches out there, but this is something that needs to be evaluated as part of this position group as well. 

 

RFA

None

 

UFA

David Quessenberry – 32 years old, Cap hit in 2022 – 1.75M – Not too much to say here, was signed to provide depth was paid correctly for what he was intended to do.  No reason to beat around the bush here, old, unathletic probably can move one.  At the same time I could see him back in the similar role, league min contract depth player.  Can play both OG and OT so this is what you should look for in cheap depth players.  I think I would move on from David initially as there will be 10 others like him that you can sign post draft as the rest of you team is filled out. 

 

Justin Murray – 29 Years old, Cap hit in 2022 – 1.035M, See above, JAG depth option and can be addressed post draft letting him walk.

 

Roger Saffold – 34 years old, Cap Hit in 2022 – 6.25M, Projected Market Value 5.4M – Here comes likely he first one some might want to debate.  Me it is easy he isn’t a Bills moving forward.  He was one of the worst OGs in the league. Issue with him here is also there could be some direct pull down on the performance of Morse and Dawkins as well here.  I don’t think this is a Kromer thing because his same issues we saw are the same issues Tenn saw as well and why they moved on from him.  Which is what I think we do as well.

 

Greg Van Roten – 33 years old, Cap Hit in 2022 – 1.27M – See Quessenberry and Murray.  JAG are we seeing a trend here with the Bills OL.  A lot of JAGs employed to protect your franchise QB and to open holes in the running game.  One good thing here is can play both OGs and C (so cant Bates, will get more on that later) again like really anyone on this list so far this is the type of player you can find after the draft.

 

Ike Boettger – 28 years old, Cap Hit in 2022 – 1.187M – This is actually one that I finally got to in the UFA list I can make a case for.  Was a very solid LG for us last year before the injury.  I do not think he is a starter, but still needs time to recover from the achilles (See Kyle Williams) I probably would toss a 1 year deal around the same number he was at this year. 

 

Bobby Hart – 28 years old, Cap Hit in 2022 – 1.185M – this is a funny one to me.  He carved a nice role out for himself as the 6th OL on the field when going heavy.  Also, I think he found where he should be playing in the Inside spot.  The problem is that is really all he can play at serviceable level is OG.  I cannot pay a strict OG BU.  Needs to have position versatility to have a BU role in the NFL. But if I can keep him at the 1.1M number I probably do bring him into camp on that number.

 

On Contract

 

Dion Dawkins age 29, 6.54% of cap, 14.824M cap hit (1.958M in savings, 9.81M in savings post June 1st) – Here is my fist hard one.  What to do about Dawkins.  He regressed this year and at times it could be argued that he was the worst OL on the field.  My concern is what is causing the regression, was it a down year?  Was it the Scheme?  Was it the Slug net to him at OG?  Was it the coach?  There are too many questions here that I don’t really have answers for.  He did have 8 penalties this year which is right about up there with his yearly average.  Here is where I would make a change.  Right now with the way his contract is set up you can move on from him in 2024 with little a nice savings IF they do not touch his contract.  However at 8.855M base there is a way to save 5M here with the simple restructure and prorating out the bonus for the next 4 years (2 active contract years, 2 Void Years).  I just Don’t think this is the right player to try and get cap space on because of the questions above on what is causing this years regression.  I hate kicking the can down on players that 1. Are Hurt often, 2. Coming off a regression year and 3. Anyone over 30 not playing QB).  Dawkins is clearly in Bullet 2.  I could overlook that if he was the best player on the line, which he wasn’t that was Morse. 

 

Spencer Brown age 25, 0.58% of cap, 1.31M cap hit (880K in savings) – Rookie Deal with less than 1M in savings.   I don’t do anything here with him he had the same penalty count as a rookie and is still stiff and limited athletically in Pass Pro, though he is an actual decent run blocker even at the second level (which points to enough of an athlete) I am not sure I think this could be a Kromer regression.  He wasn’t the worst on the OL but then again never took the step he was primed to take.  That said I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater here.  Best case scenario is he would be my Swing OT next year as I go and buy a Legit OT.

 

Tommy Doyle, age 24, 0.45% against cap, 1.01M cap hit (861K savings) – This one is funny.  I think he is fine as depth and the contract is right.  I think the OL might be better with Doyle stepping in instead of Quessenberry but then we will never know because of his IR.  Savings is under 1M too so not much there, UNLESS here is the Key Spencer Brown is your Swing OT.  Then Doyle could be cut and save that almost 900K.

 

Ryan Bates, age 26, 2.15% against cap, 4.875M cap hit (No Savings) – The out is after this year.  I think Bates is another that suffered this year with Kromer.  But at the end of the day I also think he is better at LG than RG.  I would slide him over next to Dawkins next year, however there could be an argument here too that he is better as the swing interior (which can be done contact wise) if one of your starters is on a Rookie Deal.  I don’t think they will be able to go buy 3 new starters on the OL in UFA.  I think you Buy the OT and One OG.  Then go into draft for rookies.  Spend a lot of time on the OL this offseason in the draft and freaking HIT ON THEM.  4.875M is not a bad contract for a good solid OL that can start if need be and can play all 5 positions on the OL.  I would Pay 5M to my 6th OL if they can play all 5 positions. 

 

Mitch Morse, age 31, 4.98% against cap, 11.3M cap hit (6.3M, 8.8M post June 1) – Last but not least the best OL the Bills had this year in Mitch Morse.  He was a Solid Pivot, regressed in pass pro this year and had another Concussion.  My issue with Morse is I have been screaming to plan for life after Morse now for a couple years, instead they tore up his old contract and signed a new one.  (Maybe that is something they can do with Dawkins instead of kicking the can).  His contract does offer some juice to squeeze on a simple structure probably about 3M in space.  But the Bigger savings would come from the release.  Which I do not think they will do.  It would be a lot easier to do it IF they had a young center on Roster already (could that be the Bates Slide in role).  He also has a trigger on 3/19 that fully guarantees 1.36M of his contract.  Not a BIG issue if nothing is done before that trigger it would just lower the pre Jun 1 savings to 5M and post June 1 savings to 7.5M

 

 

Notable UFAs – This list is actually quit long, right now with no contract extensions being done in the league and no tags used.  So some that I list here may not even make it.  But I will put my top 3 to 5 and then come ideas on them. 

 

OT

Orlando Brown Jr – Yeah the top in the class and no reason to talk about him cannot afford and will not hit the market.  I put him here to show you that while there might be better players I am tying to target players that would fit, improve within the financials.  Obviously it is easy saying go sign the top guy.  But that isn’t the mental challenge I want while writing these things. 

 

Jawaan Taylor, 25 years old.  This is my top target, underrated in this class because of his run blocking ability.  However, we do not run so that is not my concern at this point.  Likely can get locked up long term for about 7M a year.  So why do I want him…  His pass blocking.  He posted a 5.2% pressure rate which is very good, and still has ceiling in his play.  Fits the Mold of Physical Specimens the Bills seem to target at 6-5 330 lbs. 

 

Mike McGlinchey, 29 years old – This is probably the top,  most complete RT in the class.  I would expect this contract to be around the 12.5M to 14M a year if they move on in San Fran, which probably prices us out here. 

 

Then some better older guys like

George Fant, 30,

Billy Turner, 31,

 

OG

Isaac Seumalo, 29 years – This is probably your top OG, and likely going to get 14M a year going forward that prices us out.  However I do have some that I will talk.    

 

Dalton Risner, 27 years old – Here is about a 9M dollar a year OG.  Gave up 3 sacks, 1 penalty in over 1000 snaps in Denver.  Plays Both OG spots just as effectively so you can move Bates to LG and Risner your RG.  This would be my top target in the OL Group. 

 

C

Ethan Pocic, 27 years old – Massive tight cap space in CLE so likely hits the market.  He is the pivot on one of the better OLs in the league.  In 2022 played 800 snaps, let up 1 sack and 2 penalties.  Probably around 8M max to land him with a bigger fish in Bozeman and Bradberry out there

 

Notable Draft Picks

OT

1st round

Broderick Jones, 6’4”,315, Georgia

Dewand Jones, 6’8, 360, Ohio State

 

2nd Round

Blake Freeland, 6’8” 305, BYU

Anton Harrison, 6’5” 309, OK

Jaelyn Duncan, 6’5” 320, Maryland

 

OG / C

1st round

O’Cyrus Torence, 6’5”,335, Florida (OG)

Dewand Jones, 6’8, 360, Ohio State

 

2nd Round

Andrew Vorhees, 6’6” 320, USC (OG)

John Michael Schmitz, 6’4” 320, Minnesota (C) (I hate double first names, almost as much as hyphen last names)

Luke Wypler, 6’3” 300 Ohio State (C)

Sedrick Van Pran 6’3” 310, Georgia (C)

 

What I would do:

 

     I would Let all UFA walk.  I can get that similar play cheaper in the draft and post draft when you are filling the team with role players.  No reason to sign them now.

 

I would Cut Morse Saves 6.3M

I would not touch Dawkins Contract.  Instead I am getting the rest of the money for what I am about to do elsewhere.

 

I Sign Ethan Pocic, Jawaan Taylor and Dalton Risner. Now before you say we cannot fit all that in the cap, absolutely we can absolutely fit it all with proper structure. Just like we had Vons Cap at 5M this year.  And it will be about time we INVESTED in the OL.  That then allows the flexibility in the draft to get more young cheap Rookie Contracts on the team.  And can use premier picks for Weapons.

 

It would make the OL Look like this

 

LT – Dawkins

LG – Bates

C – Pocic (call it 8M AAV) (Probably around a 3-4M 2023 cap hit)

RG – Risner (call it 10M AAV) Likely around a 5M cap hit in 2023)

RT – Taylor (Lets call this 10M max, I think it will be closer to 7) so you are at around a 5M hit in 2023)

Swing OT – Brown and Doyle

 

So that would need to be around 15M in space to do this got 6 coming from Morse.  Need another 9.  There is the easy bank of Allen.  So the cap layout is more than do able to buy what SHOULD be projected a very good OL and fixes the NO 1 problem with the team. 

 

All Before going into the draft. 

 

PAST WRITEUPS

State of the Franchise

 

I can't hate on any of those moves but it might be tough to sign all 3 OL when we still have Edmunds to re-sign , he is going to be at least 14M a season or more if we decide to keep him. Also we have to evaluate Tre White, has he lost a step or was it just rust from missing a year? He was slow and grabbed on almost every single play and was terrible in the Bengals game. Can he take Poyer's spot at S? Or do we have to wait until 2025 to rid ourselves of that contract if he's not the same player? I think this would definitely help the OL with those 3 players but to think all 3 would come here is also a stretch imo.

[Great and pretty brutal assessment of Bills’ talent by Chris Simms]

38 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He goes to town here, and he ain’t wrong: https://www.nbcsports.com/video/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-tries-do-too-much-vs-cincinnati-bengals?ls=pftvod

 

I agree somewhat to what Simms is saying but take the 3 teams Simms is mentioning here.... The Bengals, Eagles and 49ers, all 3 of these teams have QB's on rookie contracts, when Burrow, Hurts and either Purdy or Lance reup the contract they'll also be making big decisions. We should have more talent around Josh and on defense but that's what happens when you don't draft well or is it on coaching? Yes Leslie Frazier runs a version of Sean McDermott's defense but another DC may have a much better version that allows us to get to the QB better, we can't just keep doing the same things and expecting different results. I don't know if Dorsey's offense is good enough for where we want to be but it's hard to tell in just 1 season.

[How many chances will McDermott get?]

42 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

 

Are you sure you want to pick a new HC, our last 4 before McDermott were Rex Ryan, Doug Marrone, Chan Gailey and Dick Jauron. Are you positive this is what you want? Who other than Sean Payton would you like as HC here? Payton doesn't make sense for us, giving up a 1st or multiple 1sts for a HC when we need OL to protect Josh Allen doesn't make much sense imo so who else would be your choice.

[The Bengals opening drive]

26 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

I've watched the Bills in the playoffs for the past 4 decades back to the 1980 season and I have to say no opposition opening drive has ever foreshadowed a game more than what the Bengals did today to start off. Sure there have been some terrible Bills teams who have given up terrible opening drives in the regular season (McD era teams have been actually really bad at this) but this is the playoffs. No playoff Bills team I can recall ever took such a punch to the face as the Bills did on the opening drive today.  The drive planted the momentum to the Bengals and they never gave it back. The drive was so easy and so effortless that it immediately took the crowd out of the game and oddly seemed to permanently deflate the Bills D going forward. It also exposed Frazier for the fraud that he is defensively with Bengals receivers wide open on every down, no pass rush, a D line getting gashed on runs and a QB completing every single pass. In short it was like a Mike Tyson knockdown or standing 8 count in the first minute of the first round.  I just cant get my head around how the Bills (especially Frazier)could have possibly have been so poorly prepared for what they knew the Bengals could do. Its almost as if Frazier didn't watch any film at all this week on the Bengals. One of their best O Lineman was out, yet no pressure or scheme to that side. If this isn't enough to get Frazier fired, I simply don't know what is?

 

I'm a huge "It's not how you start , it's how you finish" guy and the team did not start or finish. You will never win a game if you can't start or finish no matter what sport.

[Gregory Rousseau is becoming elite]

22 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Serious question that I’m too lazy to dig on.  Did Groot have any sacks after Von went down?

 

3 sacks and a forced fumble.

[We are the 90's Packers]

15 minutes ago, KzooMike said:

 

Josh didn’t lose this game and for years he has made plays no player in FB can make.

 

Favre was the same way and he ended up winning a title, but for how great he was, generating multiple MVP’s, widely considered one of the best of all time…..He just wasn’t consistent enough to be a late season closer. He made deep playoff runs each year, but each year he would typically be the team who lost in the Divisional or Championship round only making one SB.

 

Josh is similar to Favre. He is adored for his guts and heart and recognized for his freakish ability to do things nobody else can. With this, he’s been the bridesmaid for several years now. At this point I don’t know how anybody could make Buffalo the favorites. They will challenge each year, but at the end of the day, better or worse, we ride Allen’s back on offense and that just doesn’t work against the better teams for multiple games in a row. It’s also not always on Josh where that breakdown occurs. Our version of the Tampa 2 doesn’t seem to hold past the Wild Card.

 

I wish I knew the fix. I don’t think one exists. Like Favre, I think we will win a Super Bowl one day. With that, we will never be consistent. We will constantly be in the deep playoffs but we won’t break into being in the SB with consistency.  What allows us to get to that position is also the thing that prevents us form consistently getting deeper. We will remain a lethal team but eventually our style will hinder our ability to get far or deep in the playoffs with consistency.   

 

Rodgers- 1 SB ring

Brees- 1 SB ring

Wilson- 1 SB ring

Favre- 1 SB ring 

Stafford- 1 SB ring

Marino- 0 SB rings

Kelly- 0SB rings

 

It's very difficult to go to a SB yet win it multiple times. There are some big names who only have 1 or never won any, I'll start with even 1 I'm not greedy!

[McDermott and Beane Have to Go]

17 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

McDermott is terrible situationally. 
 

Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks.

 

we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee)

 

you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team

#17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them

 

6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space

 

This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward 

 

 

 

 

I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff leave for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come

 

Other than Sean Payton who is now everyones shiny new toy who is the HC you want to replace him with? 

[Gregory Rousseau is becoming elite]

I never recall calling Rousseau elite but I think he's turning into a really solid pass rusher for us, it's unfortunate he didn't show up today when we needed him but he isn't a bum like Epenesa that's for sure.

[I've come to accept our offensive scheme relies on Allen too much]

52 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

It is because that is how this Coach and Front office Built it. 
 

Allen and Diggs. 
 

worst OL in the playoffs (yes worse than MIA and CINCY with their BUs). 
 

worst weapon group in the playoffs. 
 

bit ***** so glad we keep investing in Defense because you know in this NFL the defense becomes immediately irrelevant against Top offenses. 

 

I totally disagree with this take of yours and you can go back to the last few SB's for actual proof. It was the defense of the Rams that won that SB last year, 7 sacks and were in Burrows face all game long. The Bengals defense were also really good with 2 sacks, 2 INT and that's why the game was so close.

 

How about the Bucs vs Chiefs SB? 3 sacks, 2 INT, 0 TD passes or rushing TD and they harassed Mahomes the entire game. Brady only threw for 201 yards yards that game. To think we can just let the defense ***** the bed and hope to win a SB like that is stupid. Make smart moves in FA like another Lorax pickup or something like that because there is no way we can afford to re-sign everyone.

[Bengals @ Bills - Post Game Thread - January 22, 2023 - NFL Divisional Round Playoffs]

5 minutes ago, Jamone said:

Not pulling the trigger on mccafferry was this teams biggest mistake. 🫡

 

Why we don't run the ball nearly enough or pass/screen passes to RB's enough to warrant adding him.

[We are in HC purgatory]

44 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

This is 100% correct.  

 

McD is to Bflo as Tomlin is to Pittsburgh.

 

"Good enough" is good enough.

 

You do know that Tomlin has a SB ring and no losing season in 18 years correct? What HC is coming in and beating that? 

[Bengals @ Bills - 2nd Half Game Thread - January 22, 2023 - NFL Divisional Round Playoffs]

Heads better roll after this debacle. 

[For the Dorsey Haters]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

OK, please feel free to point us at them.  Hit me in PM if you need to know how to link a previous post.

 

Totally fair not to rehash what you've previously spelled out, totally not good enough to leave it at "He just is, for reasons" and expect to be taken seriously in a thread specifically about Dorsey. 

 

 

I think the "once in a while" is part of the problem. 

 

Eric Wood had a piece where he was discussing the Bills problems with screens and he said when the Bills were running them successfully under Gailey and with Roman as OC, they practiced them A LOT to get the timing down.

 

We have Singletary who can catch, Cook who can take any pass to the house and Hines who is noted for his catching ability. There is no reason why we don't try more RB screen plays to use these players to our advantage.

[For the Dorsey Haters]

On 1/16/2023 at 11:12 PM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah just watched it.

 

I’m more convinced now than I was watching the game.

 

 

Josh and Dorsey know exactly what they’re doing.

 

Our media and fans who are clamoring for run plays and checkdowns are out their minds.

 

He makes the defense defend every blade of grass. 
 

Ignore our media, ignore the 4 yard checkdowns and make plays. 
 

Bombs away on the Pats = should have been 42-points on the board if Gabe doesn’t drop the ball. 
 

Yesterday he throws for 350 with a 50-yard drop from Shakir. 
 

Our QB is awesome and our OC recognizes that. 
 

But no media and fans, let’s run right out there are get Frank Reich or Joe Lombardi so we can lead the league in RB screens. 
 

 

Man I wish we would do more RB screens, that would be a thing of beauty once in awhile.

[AP Coach of the Year <Poll>]

15 hours ago, bobobonators said:

Who do you think should win? My vote is for Daboll:

 

1. He inherited a team with almost no talent outside Saquon Barkley and currently has them in the 2nd round of the playoffs. 

2. He turned Danny Dimes into a threat at QB and legitimately makes him look like a poor-man’s Allen. 

3. His already talent-deprived team was further decimated by injuries - especially at WR, and they basically have an entire new WR Corps from Week 1 and are all performing at a high level. It’s super impressive. 

 

4. Daboll’s massive watermelons between his legs set the tone for the season week 1 when his team went up agains the Titans, who were 12-5 last season, and instead of playing to not lose, he played to win and went for 2 late in the game with a minute left to win the game. 
 

I miss that man. Im very happy for him. He deserves to win AP Coach of the Year. 
 

 

I went with Dan Campbell, what he did with the Lions this season is nothing short of a miracle with Jared Goff as his QB, the team played hard against almost every team they played.

[Mitch Morse, Defender of Honor]

On 1/15/2023 at 11:45 PM, Beck Water said:

Mitch Morse presser is a must-watch

 

 

“Do you remember a time when you’ve been fired up on the football field as you were today protecting Josh?”

”Um…. No.”

(Then says a lot of classy stuff about let’s not make it bigger than it was, we talked afterwards, I have a lot of respect for the way he plays, he’s a competitive guy)

“Tempers flare on the football field, we had our moment, then it was mitigated and we were able to continue playing…but No.  I’ve never been…No.”

”When you see your QB in trouble for want of a better word, what’s the thought process for an offensive lineman?”

”In the moment, you sort of lose consciousness for a little bit”

”I mean, that’s your Guy, that’s your Quarterback, you just want to be there for him.  And it escalated, like you saw”

 

Gotta actually watch the interview, it’s the tone of voice and the body language that are priceless.

 

Like Mitch Morse underwent a transformation on the football field and discovered an inner Hulk he didn’t know he had, and is kind of taken aback by it

 

Bonus: at the end, someone asks Dion “How that third date went?”

 

We can't him losing consciousness anymore.

[How confident are you the Bills beat the Bengals?]

20 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I'm at about 65%. I think the bills are the better team overall, but we've watched them shoot themselves in the foot so many times this season. While I think the bills are fully capable of playing a mistake free game, it's hard to comprehend they will. Being at home is a big advantage (I think). 

 

100%, not even a doubt we will win. People/fans are really underselling our defense, it gives up plays but also gets a bunch of pressure, 4 sacks, 2 INT last game against a division opponent that wouldn't go down without a fight but guess what we won yet another close game that we were told we can't win close games. 

 

The Bengals won on a miracle fumble, Joe Burrow only had 209 passing yards 1 TD and 1 rushing TD, the best WR Jamarr Chase had 9 REC, 84 yards, 1 TD. They are very beatable and we now know the blue print, run on them or pass on them since they are giving up yards in the air and on the ground. 226 passing yards 2 TD from Huntley and over 150 yards total rushing. They are definitely beatable and the defense of the Bengals had 1 INT, 2 sacks and a FR for a TD, other than that miracle fumble the team as a whole didn't play all that great imo and yes another tough division opponent for them also.

[Cinci O Line injuries]

That sucks, I want to beat these guys fair and square. Not sure why many are afraid of this game, these are the games that put you on another level like the Chiefs, to be the best you have to beat the best and no doubt were going to slay the kitty cats this weekend, no doubts whatsoever.

[Brady last night]

13 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Who else thought his arm looked dead? That he just looked old and tired? In my opinion, if he continues to play, next season could be a disaster for his new team. 

 

I don't think his arm looked dead I think his OL was letting him get killed. It was almost a free runner coming at him every pass play and that was before the game was out of hand. That is the blueprint to beating a high flying offense, get to the QB. All of Brady's SB losses were to to the pressure he received, same with mahomes against the Bucs, they dominated the Chiefs OL and what did the Chiefs do? Went out and revamped the OL which is exactly what we should do at the end of this season.

[Is it just me or do we always let offenses convert 3rd downs on us?]

2 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Third down in general, our defense is 6th in the league.
 

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-third-down-conversion-pct

 

Why would anyone check actual facts? 

[Billboard to get a message to the team — what would you say?]

3 more games by any means necessary.

[We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5]

5 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:

Oh what does this guy know anyway, we have some many "experts" on this board who already know the outcome of this game lol

 

Doctors, experts, gurus, draft nicks, arm chair GM's, we have them all!

[We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5]

47 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Folks need to just accept the Bengals are scoring 27-34 points.  
 

This defense is a hot mess without Hyde, his back up, and Miller.  
 

More importantly, Oliver is not close to 100 percent.  Neither is Poyer.  And Philips being out is a big deal.  
 

 

It can be over come because of our O.  So we need to take every possession as if we need 7 - Josh can’t slack and Dorsey needs to be on point.  

 

I don't agree with this at all, I thought the defense did a solid job, it was the offense who actually put us in the hole , 3 turnovers and the defense had 4 sacks and 2 INT.

[We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5]

They're coming into our house and we have Allen, I have no doubts we're winning this game! 

[We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5]

16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I am scared to effing death.  Where has our pass rush been?  I understand losing Miller is a big loss but against 3 back up lineman, we didn’t dominate upfront.

 

4 sacks, 2 INT today. What do you mean?