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23-20 Chiefs over the Iggles
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Can he put on some weight and be the fastest swing tackle in the NFL?
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I'm not a fan of Leslie Frazier, haven't been since the hire and I hope they find a replacement for him. They have a replacement right on the roster now in LB Coach Bobby Babich who is being talked about for DC positions, lets see what he has to offer because whatever that scheme is that Frazier put out was not only predictable but we looked lost out there. It's time for some fresh new blood to take over and I hope Babich get's a shot.
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On 2/5/2023 at 2:08 PM, GunnerBill said:
Here it is folks, version 1 of my 2023 mock draft and it is a two rounder. Version 2 will be a 1 rounder with trades after free agency and version 3 drops draft week. Enjoy and feel free to comment below!!
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1 – Chicago Bears – Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia
There is a fair amount to unpick with this pick. Firstly, do the Bears stick with Justin Fields? My strong sense is they will. Then the question becomes is there a team wanting to jump Houston for their Quarterback of choice? Likely there will be, but for now I move to question three… if not Jalen Carter or Will Anderson? Positional value would point you towards Anderson but remember Ryan Poles, the Bears GM came from Kansas City where their best pass rusher is Chris Jones from the interior. Therefore, for now, I edge towards Carter being the pick.
2 – Houston Texans – Bryce Young, Quarterback, Alabama
The Texans are going to take a Quarterback, the question is which one? I think if DeMeco Ryans is going to bring a Shanahan style offense with him that probably suits Bryce Young as a sound decision maker and accurate distributor the best.
3 – Arizona Cardinals – Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama
The Cardinals, like the Bears, have needs right across the defensive line with JJ Watt’s retirement. Anderson, to me, is a better fit as a stand up edge rusher in a 3-4 than he is playing with his hand in the dirt as a 4-3 end. Anderson wasn’t quite as dominant in 2022 as he was in 2021 but he is still a legitimate top 5 talent.
4 – Indianapolis Colts – Will Levis, Quarterback, Kentucky
Whoever the Colts hire as Head Coach they need to get out of their cycle of damaged goods veterans at Quarterback and finally land a successor to Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. The early buzz is that Chris Ballard is enamored with Levis’s size and tools. There is some inaccuracy and recklessness on the film that concerns you but he is likely the highest ceiling Quarterback in the class.
5 – Seattle Seahawks – Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech
If I was running the Seattle Seahawks I think I would take a Quarterback despite Geno Smith’s career year. However, I don’t expect them to do that. They addressed offensive line last year and I think their focus in this draft will switch to defensive line where Tyree Wilson fits the profile of the bigger ends that John Schneider and Pete Carroll have traditionally likes.
6 – Detroit Lions – Joey Porter Jnr, Cornerback, Penn State
The NFL Draft just keeps falling the Lions way at the moment. Two years ago they were able to land a franchise offensive tackle, last year they were able to land a franchise pass rusher and now they get their choice of corners. There are three or four contenders to be the first corner off the board but I am giving them Joey Porter Jnr from Penn State who had 11 pass breakups as a junior this past year.
7 – Las Vegas Raiders – Peter Skoronski, Offensive Tackle, Northwestern
At this stage who knows what the Raiders plan is at Quarterback? They could certainly go that direction here but I suspect that they would prefer a veteran. Which likely narrows their choice down to offensive line or corner. Skoronski is the highest floor offensive lineman in the class but I’m not sure whether he has the length to be an elite blindside protector. The Raiders have Kolton Miller at left tackle so could afford to slot Skoronski in at right tackle or guard.
8 – Atlanta Falcons – Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson
I am not really sure what the plan is for the Falcons. Arthur Smith is about to go into year three, they still have no discernable identity and no Quarterback. Maybe they pick a signal caller here but they also have needs on the defensive line and Myles Muprhy would be an immediate upgrade to their pass rush. His length makes him a natural scheme fit.
9 – Carolina Panthers – CJ Stroud, Quarterback, Ohio State
The Panthers (Frank Reich’s new team), like the Colts (Frank Reich’s old team), have tried the approach of free agents and trade acquisitions since losing a former #1 overall pick at Quarterback. I feel like they will select one in the first round of this draft and they are a very real candidate to try and trade up. Here I have them taking Stroud who requires some technical refinement to succeed in the pros but has an intriguing set of tools to work with.
10 – Philadelphia Eagles – Christian Gonzalez, Cornerback, Oregon
Rarely can a team have been in such a strong position as the Eagles, in the Superbowl, with two first round picks to come in the following draft. They don’t have a ton of critical free agents either, but James Bradberry is one they do have, and their star corner on the opposite side Darius Slay is 32. So I expect this pick to be a corner and Gonzalez’s length makes him look like a natural fit in Jonathan Gannon’s defense.
11 – Tennessee Titans – Broderick Jones, Offensive Tackle, Georgia
Taylor Lewan has been a fantastic servant to the Titans since they made him their first round selection in 2014 but is nearly 32, has been hurt two of the last three seasons and saves them almost $15m against the cap to cut. I think they might decide to move on and Jones is exactly the big physical mauler I can see them loving.
12 – Houston Texans – Jordan Addison, Wide Receiver, USC
Whichever Quarterback the Texans take at #2 they need to give that guy some weapons. This choice, a bit like my choice of Bryce Young, is made on the basis that they want to try and run a Shanahan style stretch zone version of the west coast offense which stretches the field horizontally and gets creative in its use of playmakers. Addison isn’t an archetypal NFL #1 receiver, but could he be a version of Deebo Samuel or Brandon Aiyuk? Yes.
13 – New York Jets – Paris Johnson Jnr, Ohio State
The Jets offensive line seems to have been in a state of flux for years. One presumes they are about to give up on the Mekhi Becton experiment but Alijah Vera-Tucker was playing at an all-pro type level before getting hurt last season. Plug Johnson in beside him at left tackle and at least one side of that line is solidified.
14 – New England Patriots – Devon Witherspoon, Cornerback, Illinois
At times last year Bill Belichick was playing four safeties in his secondary, which tells you all you need to know about what he thinks of his current crop of corners. Witherspoon has been shooting up draft boards as people have started to dig into his film and his ability to hold up in man on island will have Belichick salivating.
15 – Green Bay Packers – Michael Meyer, Tight End, Notre Dame
If you are going to run that Shanahan style scheme then you are going to need a tight end or two and that tight end better be able to block as well as catch. Both Robert Tonyan and Marcedes Lewis are impending free agents. If neither are back than Michael Meyer is the perfect fit for Matt LaFleur, whoever he has under center.
16 – Washington Commanders – Cam Smith, Cornerback, South Carolina
Another team who seem to have no obvious plan at Quarterback. They could gamble on Anthony Richardson out of Florida at this spot but I wonder if with a lame duck owners, and a lame duck head coach, the more obvious move isn’t to shore up the porous secondary and let the inevitable new regime in 2024 take a swing on a Quarterback. In which case Cam Smith is the best defensive back left on the board.
17 – Pittsburgh Steelers – Bryan Bresee, Defensive Tackle, Clemson
For the Steelers this pick should be “best trenches player available.” For a team traditionally renowned for its toughness and grit they have become a bit of a soft touch in recent years capable of being bullied at the line. Bresse can slide right into the spot that Larry Ogunjobi, a free agent, has occupied.
18 – Detroit Lions – Bijan Robinson, Running Back, Texas
Remember what I said about the draft keeps falling for the Lions? Here we are again. Sure, positional need would suggest Bijan Robinson is a bit of a luxury pick at #18 but having addressed their major need earlier in the round they can afford the luxury of taking the best player available. Robinson is a dynamic player and adds to a scary looking offense core with Amon-Ra St Brown and Jameson Williams.
19 – Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Anthony Richardson, Quarterback, Florida
This is a bit of a punt, but while the Buccs defense needs a lot of work if they can get their offensive line healthy it isn’t the worst situation to drop a rookie Quarterback into. I think Richardson will find his way into the first round given the number of unsettled Quarterback situations, maybe he makes the short trip from Gainsville to Tampa.
20 – Seattle Seahawks – Brian Branch, Safety, Alabama
The Seahawks got great production out of rookie corner Tariq Woolen in 2022, but relying on a guy who plays with his aggressive style means you are going to need good safety play behind him. Brian Branch is a versatile defender who can play outside, in the box or as the deep guy and would improve the Seattle secondary.
21 – Los Angeles Chargers – Quintin Johnson, Wide Receiver, TCU
For all the pre-season talk about their offensive weaponry the Chargers found it difficult to push the ball down the field in 2022. Keenan Allen has been a terrific player, but he missed time hurt and turns 31 during draft weekend. Mike Williams continues to a decent contested catch guy but doesn’t offer much else. Quintin Johnson is a prototypical NFL #1 receiver and he would allow Allen to make a Larry Fitzgerald esque late career move into the slot.
22 – Baltimore Ravens – Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Wide Receiver, Ohio State
The Ravens obviously have to decide what to do with Lamar Jackson and that might affect what they do in the draft. However, whoever the Quarterback is needs a better wide receiver corps than the oft injured Rashod Bateman and Devin Duvernay to throw to. Smith-Njigba might do his best work from the slot but he is still a significant upgrade in Baltimore.
23 – Minnesota Vikings – Kelee Ringo, Cornerback, Georgia
The Vikings secondary was a problem at the end for Mike Zimmer and it fared no better following his departure. Ringo is excellent in zone coverage and has instincts that you look for at the next level, though he will need to improve his ball skills to maximise his talents.
24 – Jacksonville Jaguars – Anton Harrison, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma
The Jags came on strong down the stretch and the work they have done on their defense started to pay dividends. Jawaan Taylor has never lived up to his pre-draft hype at right tackle and is an impending free agent, so it is possible the Jags take his successor here in Harrison who demonstrated impressive pass protection skills.
25 – New York Giants – Trenton Simpson, Linebacker, Clemson
The Giants need receiver help but I expect them to be aggressive in that regard in free agency and the value doesn’t really match up with that need in any event here. Therefore I can see them going to the defensive side of the ball where Wink Martindale’s overachieving unit desperately needs an infusion of athleticism at the second level and Simpson is a demon in pass coverage.
26 – Dallas Cowboys – Antonio Johnson, Safety, Texas A&M
The Cowboys haven’t quite got the secondary right and it just so happens that the best player available on the board at this point is a defensive back. Johnson is every bit the modern NFL safety. Excellent in coverage. Rangey, with great instincts and a sound tackler. His ball skills could be improved but otherwise he has the lot.
27 – Buffalo Bills – Rashee Rice, Wide Receiver, SMU
This is not a great spot for the Bills. The true 1st round grades at offensive line and wide receiver are exhausted, and the two options at safety are now off the board. In this scenario I think they’d be open to a trade back or maybe they’d be willing to forgo positional value for a guard but possibly the smarter play is to take a shot at a receiver. Rashee Rice is probably the most natural fit in their offense of the guys that remain.
28 – Cincinnati Bengals – Dalton Kincaid, Tight End, Utah
Hayden Hurst did a nice job as a one year band aid at tight end for the Bengals and maybe they bring him back if they decide not to extend Tee Higgins. Otherwise they could draft a replacement and in Kincaid they find another dynamic receiving weapon for Joe Burrow.
29 – New Orleans Saints – Drew Sanders, Linebacker, Arkansas
The Saints have San Francisco’s original first rounder in the most convoluted way possible (traded to Miami – for a pick from Houston in exchange for Laremy Tunsil - to take Trey Lance, then Miami traded to Denver for Bradley Chubb and eventually the Broncos sent it to the Saints for the rights to Sean Payton). New Orleans has got great value out Demario Davis who they signed as a free agent in 2018 (a 1st or 2nd team all pro in each of the past 4 seasons) but he is now 34 and as such they need a replacement. Sanders originally went to Alabama as a 5 star recruit edge rusher but converted to a mike linebacker before transferring to Arkansas where had an outstanding 2022 season.
30 – Kansas City Chiefs – Jalin Hyatt, Wide Receiver, Tennessee
The Chiefs traded away their big play threat when they sent Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins last spring. Their offense didn’t exactly “miss a beat” but the mid-season trade for Kadarius Toney suggests to me they’d like to bring that cheat code style speed back into the building. Hyatt isn’t a first round talent for most teams but in the Hill role in the Chiefs offense I think he could be.
31 – Philadelphia Eagles – Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa
I am not sure where Van Ness will go and the consensus on him is a bit all over the place. He is a typical Iowa “big end”. I think he has a bit more natural explosion than someone like AJ Epenesa coming into the NFL but he has the same room for further development in terms of pass rush moves. That said, he sort of fits the profile of a Howie Roseman defensive lineman. Tough, powerful, and relentless hustle. Feels like a natural replacement for Brandon Graham who may be heading for retirement.
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32 – Pittsburgh Steelers – Deonte Banks, Cornerback, Maryland
The Steelers have a need at corner with Cam Sutton a pending free agent. Ahkello Witherspoon and Levi Wallace are serviceable placeholders but they are not the long term answer. Deonte Banks has the right mix of zone and man coverage skills for the Steelers’ hybrid scheme.
33 – Houston Texans – Isaiah Foskey, EDGE, Notre Dame
The Texans starting edge players last year were Ogbonnia Okoronkwo who is a free agent and Jerry Hughes who will be 35 by the time the 2023 season begins. They desperately need some youth at the position and Foskey, while raw, has a high ceiling as a 4-3 pass rusher.
34 – Arizona Cardinals – O’Cyrus Torrence, Guard, Florida
The Cardinals have seven pending free agents across the offensive line, including both starting guards. Torrence would be a day 1 starter at either spot.
35 – Indianapolis Colts – Josh Downs, Wide Receiver, North Carolina
The Colts added Alec Pierce at receiver in the second round last year and he had an okay rookie year as the #2 to Michael Pittman. Downs would be another solid addition to that room with the ability to operate from the slot for whoever the next Colts Quarterback might be.
36 – Los Angeles Rams – Cam Phillips III, Cornerback, Utah
The Rams could go in almost in any direction with this pick. Their roster is getting close to the re-set point. Cam Phillips is one of my favourite payers in the class and his performance against Jordan Addison last season suggests to me he can, despite his size, play on the boundary even though he may be best at nickel.
37 – Seattle Seahawks – Ika Siaka, Defensive Tackle, Baylor
The Seahawks run defense was pretty porous in 2022, so much so that I considered giving them the massive Siaka with their second first round pick to plug the gap at 1 tech. If he gets to this spot he makes too much sense to pass.
38 – Las Vegas Raiders – Jahmyr Gibbs, Running Back, Alabama
The Raiders might yet decide to bring back Josh Jacobs, but if they don’t they need a running back. Josh McDaniels has always had a power run element to his offenses even when Tom Brady was his Quarterback so maybe he replaces one Alabama prospect with another?
39 – Carolina Panthers – Jordan Battle, Safety, Alabama
The Panthers roster is actually pretty solid aside from Quarterback, but with Jeremy Chinn now playing as more of a big nickel they could stand to upgrade at safety. Battle is an aggressive player in coverage with a reasonable amount of scheme versatility.
40 – New Orleans Saints – Zay Flowers, Wide Receiver, Boston College
The Saints made a start to the overhaul of their receiving room last year when they selected Chris Olave who had a cracking rookie year. Flowers can operate from the slot or as a move receiver on the outside and would replace the free agent Jarvis Landry.
41 – Tennessee Titans – Kayshon Boutte, Wide Receiver, LSU
And here comes the run on receivers. The Titans needed help at receiver before they traded away AJ Brown. Treylon Burks had some injury issues as a rookie but came on down the stretch and is talented. Boutte looked like a superstar as a freshman and hasn’t quite hit the heights since but the raw ability is there.
42 – Cleveland Browns – John Michael Schmitz, Center, Minnesota
The Browns got fantastic value out of Ethan Pocic on a 1 year contract at center in 2022. However, he played so well that he is likely to cash in during free agency and with Bitonio, Teller and Conklin all on big deals Cleveland probably can’t drop more money on the offensive line. Schmitz is easily the best center in the class and would give them solid cheap labour.
43 – New York Jets – Noah Sewell, Linebacker, Oregon
The Jets have two starting linebackers about to hit free agency and the other, CJ Mosely, is about to turn 31. Sewell has a certain amount of positional flexibility but I think probably plays the strong side in Robert Saleh’s defense as a rookie before sliding into the middle when Mosely moves on.
44 – Atlanta Falcons – Tuili Tuipolotu, Defensive Tackle, USC
Back to back picks spent on the defensive front for the Falcons as they go with Tuipolotu to compliment Myles Murphy and provide some interior pass rush. He would be their starting 5 tech on day 1 and has the versatility to kick outside in 4 man fronts.
45 – Green Bay Packers – Christopher Smith, Safety, Georgia
The Green Bay Packers spend more day 1 and 2 picks on defensive backs than any team in the league over the past decade (9 in 10 years). With Adrian Amos an impending free agent, don’t be surprised if they make that 10 in 11.
46 – New England Patriots – Dawand Jones, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State
Isaiah Wynn has become another draft bust in New England after a promising start to his career and they will be looking for a starting tackle. My pro comp for Dawand Jones is actually Trent Brown who will start for the Pats on the blind side. Huge man, bit raw, but with potential.
47 – Washington Commanders – Cody Mauch, Offensive Tackle, North Dakota State
The Commanders need help up front, especially with expiring contracts at guard. A lot of people believe Mauch, a road grading mauler of a college left tackle, will be best suited to guard in the NFL given length concerns.
48 – Detroit Lions – Darnell Washington, Tight End, Georgia
The Lions traded away TJ Hockenson for a 2nd round pick (not this one but pick #55) and they may well look for his replacement in this round. Washington strikes me as more of a Dan Campbell type player than Hockenson. Tough, physical blocker and a reliable if unspectacular pass catcher.
49 – Pittsburgh Steelers – Nathaniel Dell, Wide Receiver, Houston
I know what people will say, “the Steelers don’t need another receiver!” But their model is to take them on day 2 or early day 4 almost every year. Dell is small and projects as strictly slot only at the next level but Pittsburgh were willing to take Calvin Austin with a similar profile in the 4th last year.
50 – Tampa Bay Buccaneers – DJ Turner, Cornerback, Michigan
The Buccs have multiple pending free agents in the defensive backfield and not much cap room to address them. That includes starting nickel corner Logan Ryan who is not expected to return so DJ Turner might be an immediate replacement.
51 – Seattle Seahawks – Jack Campbell, Linebacker, Iowa
Seattle didn’t replace Bobby Wagner last year, but they get the opportunity to do so here. Campbell is a bit of a throwback in the respect of being a physical tone setter in the middle of the field but he would be a good compliment for Jordyn Brooks' skillset.
52 – Miami Dolphins – Luke Musgrave, Tight End, Oregon State
Mike Gesicki played on the franchise tag last year but he has always been a poor scheme fit for what Mike McDaniel wants to do offensively. Musgrave is much more that sort of player. Able to provide inline blocking and while he doesn’t have a lot of college production as a receiving threat, not did George Kittle. He has the upside to be a weapon in this offense.
53 – Los Angeles Chargers – Emmanuel Forbes, Cornerback, Mississippi State
The Jaguars’ comeback in the wildcard playoff round demonstrated the issues that still exist in Brandon Staley’s defense. Forbes is raw, but he is the type of aggressive ball hawking corner that the Chargers coach loves. He could be a difference maker.
54 – Chicago Bears – Nolan Smith, EDGE, Georgia
When making their decision at #1 overall between a defensive tackle and a defensive end the overall depth of the relative classes will play a part. Nolan Smith is good value here and would provide an immediate upgrade to their pass rush.
55 – Detroit Lions – Derick Hall, EDGE, Auburn
Now the run on the next tier of edge rushers is on. On the face of it the Lions are well stocked here with Aiden Hutchinson, Charles Harris and Josh Paschal. But Hall has a really intriguing skill set and a high ceiling and could play on the edge or in the stand up rush linebacker role the Lions used James Houston for in 2022.
56 – Jacksonville Jaguars – Cedric Tillman, Wide Receiver, Tennessee
The Jaguars had success with free agents Zay Jones and Christian Kirk in 2022, but Marvin Jones is now out of contract and Tillman is the kind of vertical threat receiver which would round out this set of offensive weapons for Trevor Lawrence.
57 – New York Giants – Joe Tippmann, Center, Wisconsin
The Giants are in an awkward spot again. In both rounds they end up right at the drop off in tiers of receiver hits. Therefore, maybe they further reinforce the offensive line with Joe Tippmann who some shrewd evaluators really like.
58 – Dallas Cowboys – Felix Anudike-Uzomah, EDGE, Kansas State
Dallas might also be disappointed to miss out on the second round run on receivers, but they do also have a need opposite Dexter Lawrence on the defensive line. Anudike-Uzomah is raw but he actually reminds me of a younger version of Lawrence and will add some explosion to the pass rush.
59 – Buffalo Bills – Andrew Vorhees, Guard, USC
Having addressed offensive weaponry in round 1, the Bills come back and address offensive line in round 2. People seem all over the map on Vorhees. Some think he is a borderline 1st rounder, others see him as a late day 2 pick. I think he is a fit for the Bills on the basis that his pass pro is better than his run blocking.
60 – Cincinnati Bengals – JL Skinner, Safety, Boise State
Both of Cincinnati’s starting safeties are free agents. They did draft Daxton Hill in the first round last spring, but he is more a free safety coverage type. Skinner can play in the box, is aggressive and hits hard.
61 – Carolina Panthers – Zach Charbonnet, Running Back, UCLA
The Panthers earned this pick through trading away Christian McCaffrey. They may well spend it on replacing him. Charbonnet is a powerful runner and a decent pass catcher out of the backfield too.
62 – Kansas City – Darnell Wright, Offensive Tackle, Tennessee
The one position that seems to have been in constant flux since the Chiefs started this run is left tackle. Who knows what they do with Orlando Brown this offseason, but Wright has experience at both left and right tackle in college. He might take some time can but can end up a quality starter.
63 – Philadelphia Eagles – Matthew Bergeron, Offensive Tackle, Syracuse
The Eagles have some offensive line decisions pending. Jason Kelce will almost certainly retire, which probably means Landon Dickerson sliding into center and Isaac Seumalo is a free agent. Add that to question marks around how long Lane Johnson can play and a versatile guy like Bergeron would hold some attraction.
Okay TBD.... flame away!!!
No WR's will catch anything if Josh Allen is on the sidelines injured, I say enough messing around and in this scenario I'd 100% go OG O'Cyrus Torrence Florida, I'd also come back in the 2nd and take OG Andrew Vorhees USC. I know Torrence is a more dominant run blocker but he's also no slouch in the pass game either and that's up to Kromer to teach him how to be more dominant at both, I'd also come back in the 3rd and select a RT maybe someone like Dawand Jones Ohio State or Ryan Hayes Michigan who both would be solid options, I wouldn't mess around any longer along the O-Line.
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On 2/6/2023 at 11:00 AM, Success said:
I thought it might be interesting to put our loathing aside and really analyze how they pulled it off. What they did is what I want the Bills to do - dominate for many years, and as long as they have Allen at QB.
They didn't have the ebb & flow that a team normally has, even w/ a top QB. Their window was wide open for most of those 17 years. They made 9 SB's, and probably should have made 1-2 more. My own thoughts:
1) Obviously, Brady took less pay so the team could afford better players. I still don't see that being as impactful as it's made out to be - he was still paid a lot.
2) Aging vet stars took pay cuts just to play w/ Brady. Will we see that w/ Allen?
3) The Patriots made very few investments in bigtime skill players. Moss was the exception, not the rule.
4) One of the hallmarks of Belichick was letting players walk before they started to decline. Almost exactly what we're looking at w/ Poyer.
5) Their biggest priority, year after year, was making sure the O-line was strong. That's just what you do when you have a top QB.
Still, the run is somewhat mystifying. Belichick was not a great drafter, which is usually needed once a QB gets past the rookie contract. Superior coaching clearly played a part. I think BB got the best out of his players (which is something we aren't doing right now - we see players leave the Bills and perform better than they did here).
Thoughts?
I think people are forgetting just how good that defense was in Brady's prime years... Ty law, Tebucky Jones, Lawyer Milloy, Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Roman Phifer, Richard Seymour, Anthony Pleasant and Bobby Hamilton to go along with a solid OL. You can also throw in that Belichick was a defensive genius also.
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Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:
Not disputing your input; just putting this out there as newsworthy to chew on.
Totally understand I just don't think we have the coin to make such a move.
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Since McKenzie is signed for a few more years I'd say they give him another shot, if he struggles I really liked the way Shakir played throughout the season but not sure if he's ready for that big of a leap just yet imo.
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On 2/6/2023 at 12:20 PM, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:
Multiple reports hinting Keenan Allen as a potential cap casualty due to Chargers cap situation. Would be a solid WR opposite of Diggs, having two of the best route runners in the NFL. Probably will get paid more than we want to pay if he's released, but an intriguing situation nonetheless.
https://theathletic.com/4154672/2023/02/06/chargers-keenan-allen-salary-cap-casualty/
I'm pretty sure Beane at the press conference said the cap will be tight and not to expect big named free agents if I'm not mistaken so I'm going to take him up on his word.
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That is 1 tough family, hopefully she can make a miraculous recovery. Brain trauma is scary and the quality of life is what really matters, I really hope this turns into a great story of recovery down the road.
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6 hours ago, JaCrispy said:
Draft strategy I only dream the Bills were smart enough to pull off…we shall see with Oliver this offseason…
But I doubt McBean are open to admitting yet another draft failure…
Other than Diggs our WRs ARE scrubs…😉
Davis is not a scrub he was middle of the pack and Dawson Knox is not a scrub. Look around the league and you’ll be surprised. -
21 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:
I saw this earlier and avoided making a thread myself.
He's dope. There's no way we sign him for what he wants.
But if there's any way we could and if the opportunity was there. We should.
He'll sign with some trash asss team like the Broncos or Raiders or Jets. We'll keep dreaming for a Gabe Davis replacement.
Teams would kill for our group. Davis in a down year still had over 800 yards and 7 TD. People act like our group is a bunch of scrubs, no team paying an elite QB (not on a rookie contract) has 2 Stefon Diggs on their team. -
6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
It’s right in the neighborhood. Doesn’t change much, good or bad.
We’re in position to create $40+ million in space with restructuring contracts. More with cuts.
So that means we'll have about 20M to spend and the figures for Tremaine Edmunds are 14-16M, plus the roster filler types like AJ Klein etc., yes money can be manipulated but we could also end up like the Saints and they're still 57M in the hole from the Brees days. Beane stated at his press conference that they can manipulate the cap but also want to be smart about it.
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55 minutes ago, arcadia bob said:
I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now.
Would you make the deal??
So you even state he's not the best choice out there but giving the Saints our first and 2nd round picks anyways because he's a step up? Seems logical.
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Just now, Einstein said:
28 yards can be the difference between being in FG range for the game winning kick or not.
11th place is not elite imo.
I can agree with that. they were much better than I thought they were when I looked at the stats.
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2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Is 11th place elite to you?
The 49ers were 31 at 300.6, KC was 11th at 328.2, so the difference was 28 total yards/game. I'd say they were in that category imo.
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8 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:
In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help. First round pick was Jalen Reagor. Very next pick was Justin Jefferson. Reagor is no longer with the Eagles. Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league. Maybe the best. Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later.
Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons. Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not.
Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal. This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team. He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries.
Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken.
20M over the cap, It's going to be a hell of steep hill for this staff but like you've stated, it's their own doing.
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35 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Yet there defense is never elite during the season.
Would you rather have an elite regular season defense or elite playoff defense?
11th overall total defense in the NFL this season so not sure what you're talking about.
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6 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:
Beane won't throw a player under the bus publicly. Also, I believe that he is building some good will to possibly trade some players for picks (i.e. Oliver).
I'm not trying to be a debbie downer but his drafting hasn't been his strong suit. 2 second and 2 first round picks on the DL. They would also then have a giant hole at DT oh and were 20M over the cap. I haven't totally lost faith in this staff but this is going to be a huge offseason for everyone involved (Beane/McDermott). If it's another stinker in the playoffs can they be trusted after that? Again I'm hoping it doesn't come to that because I really like McDermott and Beane but you have to think the leash just got at least a little shorter right?
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13 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
No it's not. He's trash
Thanks for the hot take.
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6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:
I think our Daquan Jones was their Chris Jones
Jones had 2 sacks on the year , Chris Jones had 15.5. On what planet are the 2 even in the same breath?
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Way too early to tell if this was a bad pick or not.
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3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Why are we acting like the defense is bad?
A practice squad safety, 1 arm and 1 legged safety, clearly not back Tre White, 4th string DT, practice squad DE and practice squad DT all played high amounts of snaps vs Bengals.
2 second round DL, 2- first round DL and only 1 sack on Burrow, all of these players were in the game and in full health. There were 3 Bengals OL out with injury, The injury excuse is BS, we were dominated on both the OL and DL. We need better players in the trenches and can't just count on Von miller and Micah Hyde.
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They need guys who can rush the passer and OL who can block for Josh and the run game, if we count on 2 people and they get hurt or have an off game we will continue to have games like this. This Bengals game was an eye opener, I've watched it 3 times now and I want to know how a 3 man rush got to Josh Allen but we get 1 sack on Joe Burrow with 3 starting OL out for the Bengals. I've not been a fan of Frazier for awhile but I thought maybe after the 13 seconds debacle that he would be more creative and possibly adjust on the fly if things aren't working but he doesn't and wont. I understand that Frazier is running a version of McDermott's defense but is there nobody out there who can maybe add a more fresh perspective? When the defense wasn't working at all why didn't McDermott pull the reigns and take it over himself? Failing again and again and thinking it will correct itself is setting yourself up for failure. It's going to be interesting to see what they can possibly do with very little cap and all these holes to fill.
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47 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:
Based on last Sunday's sad performance vs. the Bengals, plenty of people are ready to write off this team as a contender. Including me. We've been spoiled by all the winning. Our expectations are justifiably high for this group. For our guys to play such an apparently passionless game hurt us. We probably feel we have more passion than the team showed last week.
Right after we lost, I put something on Facebook saying "No excuses. Cinci outplayed my team and deserved the win. We went 14-4 and I think maybe we ran out of gas." This was before I read that several people said we "ran out of gas." That's what it looked like to me. Since the players stood on the field and watched Damar nearly die right in front of them; some of them openly weeping, most of them just stunned, they have not been the same. They did not play very well in victories against the Pats and the Fins. Yet, they won. Pretty resilient.
But you could tell their hearts weren't yet healed. Our team normally would've trounced both those teams.
I cannot blame them for a "half-hearted" effort....that's probably all they had left. But that wasn't enough to beat a really good team. This isn't an excuse; it's a reality. These are human beings who suffered through many crazy situations. Hell, Thurman's mom died the night before the game. Even that may have cast a pall on the organization. Murph had a stroke. This was a heart-damaging year for the boys.
I think that the time off will help them heal.
I refuse to consider that this team is in trouble. I think they'll be back, stronger than ever, and they will return to form.
I don't know about this, they did have a bunch of things happen throughout the season, all terrible but they could have let up in the NE game or Miami in the playoffs. We got dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball, clear as day....Dominated! And when Josh Allen couldn't get it done we had no chance, I just heard that our best DL for the season was 43rd in the NFL in win rate since Von Miller wen down. So now we only have 1 guy on offense doing everything and 1 guy on defense doing everything and when they don't do everything we have a game like we saw against the Bengals. I can't get the 3 man rush the Bengals had on a play and hurried Josh Allen with a 3 man rush. We have 2-1st round and 2-2nd round DL and our best player is 43rd in win rate. We have alot of work to do in the offseason that's for sure.
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