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171 carries last season for 745 yards avg 4.5, ranked 8th out of 60 qualified backs on PFF. Wanted to play for Buffalo for chance at the SB He is not just a camp body, he will be on the field.

I like this pickup. I thought Murray played really well platooning in Denver last year. Really liked the Harris pickup too, Bills backfield is now fully stacked

Shorter was the top ranked wr in 2018 college recruiting class that included Amon Ra, Waddle, and Chase; so the potential is definitely there. Penn St was a bad fit and it seems he was much improved his last seasons at Fla. I hope he is a diamond in the rough and contributes immediately

Bills should have already snagged Vorhees He will be a good starter in a year or 2

Is he giving some of it back?

I think he will be a great weapon if they use him. That said, a 1st and a 4th for a TE when you just signed your underutilized mediocre te to a huge contract? This makes that ridiculous contract they gave Knox look even worse.

Different feeds are delayed?

Build a decent ***** line you idiots. These guys are unbelievable. No running game.....get a new running back Not enough time to throw......need new receivers who can get open

Yes, there are not enough top ten guys at each position for every team to have one. There are only ten. Every team is assembling and developing talent from the same pool. Yet somehow it seems every year ~2/3rds of NFL teams have a better line than the Bills. Either the Bills don't value the position group as much or they're not as good at evaluating and developing the talent available. Probably a combination of the 2 imo.

I sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong.

Time will tell I think he is and will be the far better player He probably started out asking for a lot and settled for less My point is that the Bills weren't aiming that high and overpaid instead of getting the bargain on the better player. The line needs more talent, plain and simple; not more let's bring in some jags and hope for the best.

Seumalo was that guy Highly rated at both pass pro and run blocking by numerous analysts, a proven commodity The Bills are paying McGovern more cash up front and the same 8mil per for 3 years Bills will also have a higher dead cap hit (6mil) if they let him go after a year. Seumalo should have been the target but the word is that McGovern was their target all along. Judging by the offensive line additions the last few years that does not surprise me.

He can sub for McGovern on running plays 🤣

PFF final ratings for last season out of 74 qualified Gs. Whether you think PFF ratings are worth anything or not; the top ten names are all really good players and the bottom 10 are not.

Interesting. 13th in pass blocking and 64th overall? He must be the worst run blocker in the entire NFL if that is true. What was Seumalo's pass block rank? From PFF last season BETTER PASS PRO THAN RUN BLOCKERS ANDREW NORWELL, WASHINGTON COMMANDERS ISAAC SEUMALO, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES KEVIN DOTSON, PITTSBURGH STEELERS JUSTIN PUGH, ARIZONA CARDINALS DALTON RISNER, DENVER BRONCOS Evidently Seumalo is also a better pass blocker than run blocker, and he's 10th overall compared to 64th for McGov, which means he is also a very good run blocker. Spin it any way you want, the Bills overpaid and missed out on a much more talented lineman. Last year a bunch of folks got excited about Rodger Saffold. I wasn't one of them. I said he sucked, and he did. The ***** line needs talent. Once again it looks like plug in some crap and hope for the best. Unbelievable to me that Allen is on his second contract and they still haven't given him a decent line. That should have been the first priority imo.

Seumalo 10th out of 74 G McGovern 64th out of 74 G Similar money, Beane really nailed that one. Good thing he overpaid for crap instead of waiting for better. He might have missed out on McGoverns talent. Kind of like if he had drafted the leagues best center Creed Humphrey he would have missed out on Basham's talent.(Beanes comment after the draft. He took DEs in rounds 1 and 2 because he just couldn't pass up Basham's talent).

McGovern sucks and the Bills obviously have no idea how to evaluate offensive line talent. They think they're upgrading Saffold with McGovern? and paid about the same as Seumalo got? That's ***** laughable, what a wizard indeed.

McGovern was rated 64th out of 77 Guards last season, great pickup. If there's one thing Beane is a wizard at its finding offensive line talent. Let's all get behind the new starting guard and pretend he is going to be good all offseason. When it turns out he sucks we can attribute it to the need for continuity and time required to gel.

Lee Smith What a Bills legend

Never heard of him, is he any good?

The Chiefs oline rebuild was complete when they drafted Creed Humphrey in the 2nd round of the draft 2 years ago, he has been the best center in the league since entering imo. They got him the very pick after the Bills took Basham. So not only did the Bills pass on an elite talent at a position of great need, they handed him to their main rival who really needed him to complete their line. An incredible rebuild in one offseason with Beane handing them the crown jewel. I turned the draft off after that, I was so disgusted and so convinced that Humphrey was going to be really good. I couldnt believe he fell to the Bills and then i couldnt believe they passed on him for another DE. Two years later and the Bills line is still terrible. Cmon. Get Better Beane

For the 2nd year in a row, after only two years in the league, the Chiefs' Creed Humphrey is the #1 rated center. You may remember that even though the interior line was a huge need at the time, Beane decided to pass on Humphrey and draft a 2nd consecutive DE Basham. The Chiefs had the next pick and were not so stupid.

Yes Who could ever forget Dunkirk Don and his high level meetings? We were treated as lower caste, diseased sociopaths when we got here and now look at us today!

Straight up embarrassing how limp the defense was I remember after the 13 secs debacle last year; realizing nobody was gonna offer Frasier a HC gig after that freakin disaster felt like another disaster in itself. Bills were outcoached on both sides and at the top by a country mile. The Bills coaches were like amateurs

It's like the game never happened I feel like they never showed up. The game started and the Bills somehow weren't ready. Outcoached by a huge margin