Turk71

Wouldn't surprise me if the trade the farm for Rosen crowd feel pretty stupid in a few years. I don't see a sure thing among these qbs, or have a favorite.

I went to every home game when he ran for 2000 in '73, had a big poster of him on my wall. I wouldn't say he was my idol, but I was a big fan. Now I think it is an embarrassment that he is on the wall. What a piece of **** he turned out to be.

they get Richardson for 8 and the Bills pay 10 for Star. There were plenty of better options than Lotu that will sign for less money.

"That's right, I paint my face."

So, compared to how stupid the Dareus contract was, this contract isn't nearly as stupid? That's good, I guess.

Regardless of the money, I just want him to be really good at what he does. He is currently the 11th highest paid dt this year. More than a couple sources who pay a lot more attention than I do have commented on his poor play the last couple seasons. If the highest paid player on your team is playing at a sub par level, that is a problem. He is definitely one of the Bills starting dts, so I sure hope he regains whatever he seems to have lost.

I like McCarron at that price, and hope Murph, Davis, Lotu and Ivory can come back to form. They all have shown high potential and it remains to be seen if they all come back. If they do there is a tremendous amount of upside.

You are right. I thought Poe was rated high on pff but he was not. Only a little higher than Star. If you check out their fa tracker and line the dt up by rating this is the top of the list: Suh, Unrein ,Richardson. DaQuan Jones, Ellis, Wilkerson, Ngata, Kyle Williams in top ten. Lotu was 31st. Pff not a definitive ranking by any means, but to be so far from the top of just the free agents has gotta say something about his play.

I can't say much but there will be an announcement soon. East of Buffalo, high level business meetings.... connect the dots.

I know they are suspect but they are not the only ones to comment on Star's declining play. Also even if their evaluation criteria is flawed, the players at the top are all very good players and Star was near the very bottom. The guy was a dominant force his rookie year, maybe he gets back his old self. Still overpaid. Saw a poll where Panther fans were 79% against giving him a new contract. Now they have Poe alongside Kawann Short, probably the best interior line in the league.

Well it might be difficult to quantify but Poe was ranked high and one of top fa dt on pff. Star ranked near the bottom, 30 fa dts ahead of him and only 4 lower. Poe signed for less money. This strikes me as a Panthercentric thing like Tolbert.

The Bills new highest paid player. https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/star-lotulelei/7795 The 109th ranked Dl. A lot of people don't put much stock in pff but if you look at who the highest ranked guys were it is an impressive list. Anyway , however and whatever they were measuring, there were 108 guys rated higher last year. He was near the very bottom and not much better the year before. I think there were better players available who will sign for half of what he is getting. He did play for the Panthers though. Not trying to be negative and I have liked most of what they are doing, but this move and overpaying for Ivory not so much. Will gladly eat crow if they prove me wrong. Flame away

Hey, I could retire nicely with that 3 mil .

Me too. Pesky facts are a pain in the ass and I really like good stories.

Royce Freeman in the 4th or 5th. Guy is a td machine.

He was a beast at Stanford. Saw him play a lot. If he is healthy the Bills defense just got a lot better.

Always suspected Brady had a gaping hole on his backside.

How about 'em. Raise a glass!!!

25 tackles would be whopping for Star. He only got 6 last year . A 5 year bridge contract?

Scored reaalllly high on the wonderlic........

Good one. He only completed 57% of his passes though, that's why he never made it in the pros.

All you want is a good qb. It doesn't matter what you call him.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mason-rudolph-1.html He has good size and good football smarts. I like how he has gotten better every year as well. Hilarious how many 'experts' around here just write off a guy who had one the best college careers ever. I guess when you are so used to good qb play it makes you cynical.

Does it matter? He doesn't strike me as very athletic.