Turk71

Yep, he is just misunderstood. One of the greatest qbs to ever play, he was only playing at Wyoming because all the Biff's running college teams were too stupid to realize how great he was. His completion % has always been low because he throws the ball down the field a lot. That fact is not accurately reflected in his ypa because people are biffs. Biffs I tell ya!?

Just to clarify, I am not saying I would draft Freeman here, I just think he will be better suited for the NFL and could be available later in the draft.

Johnson is slow for how light he is (210), Freeman ran the 40 in the same time but is 25 lbs heavier, he was also stronger, quicker in the 3 cone and the shuttle. Johnson avg less than 5 yds a carry every year in college. Freeman over 6. No thanx to Johnson, too light and too slow.

Noooooooo

It may be, but time will tell if he is and if it's worth that. This is the frickin Browns we are talking about, they are not setting the market. They are just making bad decisions as usual.

More mouths to feed with less cap is the NFL to MLB comparison, if u don't understand, I understand.

Average decent starters get paid more in MLB. There are less players eating a bigger pie, it's not a good comparison. Landry is one of the top payed wrs in the NFL, he isn't that good is the point.

Ridiculous comparison though, there are far more players in football counting against the cap. Landry is being payed as an elite receiver and he isn't.

Pretty pathetic, the Browns are notoriously stupid. Now somebody get out there and ring that scumbags bell.

Which guy won't bust and how is a bust defined are good questions too. I think the bust potential is high for all of them if less than pro bowl or 5+ year starter is the cutoff. I don't see Rosen as much of a football player, he's a guy who looks the part but lacks the heart imo. Allen has shown nothing but size and arm, a lot of unrealized potential. Lamar is a super athlete who plays qb, but very scheme dependent. Darnold is an unfinished product still, has regressed in college. Mayfield is off the charts in many ways but less than ideal size, for what that is worth. Rudolph is prototypical but is lacking arm etc. Maybe Lauletta or White will turn out the best and go to teams that don't need qbs, as an afterthought shot in the dark. They all have bust potential. Allen Jackson and Rosen are guys I could see not making it. Jackson is amazing dual threat but I can't see that lasting in the pros for too long. If I had to bet on one of them not to bust, I would pick Mayfield.

The ability to add starting talent for 4/5 years at a set salary is so important with the salary cap, and undervalued. It allows you to overpay for premium positions if need be, just don't pay a fat guy who hasn't been playing well 10 million to clog the middle, premium dts push the pocket.

True

Reaching is also giving up more than it was worth to get to where you have him graded, but I mostly agree with your definition.

High level business meetings, and clandestine rendezvous' with nefarious underground sources in Dunkirk, or Derby perhaps. Connect the dots. Yes it is, but only if the player is a failure. Trading away valuable picks for a total failure means you reached. Doesn't mean it never works out, but you still reached if you gave up a ton for a failure.

I think they have about the same chance of succeeding. Mayfield would be my choice because he is more of a football player and competitor than both of those guys combined. Mayfield has that hate to lose mentality that you can't teach.

Which qb in this draft is not a 'prospect'? Just curious. !@#$, you again with your source. Go away you social disease.

Good. If he is so great why was he so average in college?

It doesn't and that's why they would be less likely to say no to the team that drafted them now.

Not having many glaring holes means you have a few, remember Tolbert filled a glaring hole at backup rb last year. These are 'glaring' holes, not just weak spots on the roster. Bodine is a guy who plays center, he is not very good but he plays. That hole is filled. See, no holes. ?

Truer words never spoken.

Yes, you can!

I remember a guy named Jim Kelly doing that. He had somewhere else he could go and get paid though. What the NFL needs then is a minor league like baseball. Get rid of the charade, 'student' athletes who have no interest in school taking the place of people interested in learning; because that is what school is for. Why would he sit out a year for nothing when he was offered buku bucks to play in another league?

If they roll with this oline it will be a long year regardless of who plays qb, and that 2019 first round pick will be a good one. We don't know who they are targeting but I see mock drafts where they trade up with Denver at 5 and take Josh Allen and Denver gets Mayfield at 12 and our 22 plus another pick, doing that would be asinine imo. A lot of factors involved and a lot depends on who they want and how it plays out draft day, which can't get here soon enough for me. I hope whatever they do, they get the right guy and can hang on to next years #1.