transplantbillsfan

Gigantic void at CB right now

This is fantastic news. First of all, our OL is SET for this year!!! Second of all, our OL has 3 out of 5 positions SET for years to come!!! If you develop a player like Bates, you don't just let him go. Glad Beane did this. We'll have to find a replacement for Saffold next year and Morse a couple years down the line, but I think this is fantastic!

Respectfully, it seems you're conflating Cosell's statement that Moore will ultimately be more of a slot guy in the NFL (which we need) with your own notion that he's not high on him. I don't think he's his #1 WR... but anyone can feel free to start listening at 9 minutes in to see if I'm crazy. I would note that his emphasis on Moore's "competitive toughness" is pretty huge for a slot WR.

Doesn't sound like he wants him to stop running. I think we all agree it'd be ideal if he ran less and we won more. The problem is when we're in close games or losing, we need Allen to take over. And running is a big part of that.

This can be merged to another thread if a mod wants, but with his overall expertise I thought his insights were interesting, especially since I don't watch ANY college football. My biggest takeaways: Really high on George Pickens (like REALLY high) and Skyy Moore Not really high on Drake London... compared him to Marcus Colston and said all the Wide Receivers he's being compared with (Mike Evans, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman) were better prospects. Deep WR class. Can find a "starter" (in today's NFL... meaning top 3 guy for your roster) in round 4. As far as scheme fit for Buffalo he named Jameson Williams and Jahon Dotson as 2 players he'd like in Buffalo’s offense assuming it doesn't change much. CB in the 1st and Dotson in the 2nd? I don't know if he'll be available there because I've seen reports of him as a 1st round prospect, but he seems more likely to fall there than Williams. Dotson's pro day was yesterday but I don't think Beane was in attendance... though that doesn't mean much. Apparently it went well and he's excellent tracking the deep ball.

He's a scrub based on expectations and where he was drafted. Yeah... maybe his numbers improve a bit, but Buffalo has OWNED Miami with Josh Allen at the helm. So maybe we don't beat em by a total score of 61-11 in 2022... I still think we'll go 2-0 against them.

Well okay. If we're talking about waiting until next offseason, I say extend him and sign him because I believe the Cap goes up a TON!!! For some reason I was viewing this thread from the perspective of this offseason alone. A lot can happen in a year.

This is stupid. Where's the option to let him play out his contract and walk?

It just seems weird if we let Bates walk. He's been a true developmental guy for Buffalo and it seems like he's finally developed into a solid starting OL. I wonder if the other teams want him to play Center, which he's expressed a desire to play long term. The money at Center is better, too. As much as people seem to be ragging on posters complaining about the prospect of losing him, I think losing Bates would be a pretty significant loss for this team. Plus... Cody Ford... YIKES!!!

First of all, it's amazing that you're immediate response is solely to the relatively distant hypothetical tangent in the OP rather than just acknowledging what you acknowledge here. Second of all, CB is a pretty obvious depth need even IF we were to add Haden. And why the F did Joe Haden become the centerpiece of this conversation? If I asked you to bet $100 on us getting him right now, would you?

Huh? I would like to see it happen. I just doubt it will considering CAP space and that he's a high profile FA. Regardless... even if we get him we need a CB

How's our CB depth at that point? That was one of the scenarios proposed, and it's a far fetched one that I don’t think will happen. I noticed you voted CB anyway.

Dunno... looks like everyone (including you) so far agrees CB is the position still in pretty dire need

I am asking this question primarily because I see a GAPING hole at CB right now. Plus though we all hope Tredavious White will be back and ready to play in prime form in September... you've gotta be prepared if he's not. That leaves our #1 and #2 CB position in question. Even if we went out and got Joe Haden right now, I think we're still in dire straights at CB. I won't be upset with WR or even Breece Hall in the 1st... but I'd be shocked unless something happens...

Set? There's more than a month before the draft... how are they set? You saying Beane is now unable to make a trade?

I hope you're right. But as of this moment, that's a gaping hole.

Don't we pretty much have to draft a CB in the first couple rounds if not in round 1? Seems that's a pretty gaping hole for us right now.

I would be completely happy with this

When? Is the OP proposing we draft him in the 1st? Right now Hall is projected mid to late 2nd round. I think the projected actual pick is about 62. If we can get him at 57 and he gives us 4 years where he turns into Jonathan Taylor (who was a 2nd round pick), what's the problem? I think based on the fact that Singletary is now going into the final year of his rookie deal this year, Moss SUCKED last season, and we were screwed over by Mckissic, we pretty much have to draft an RB in the first 3 rounds. From what I've read about and seen of Hall... I like him as our target. CB in round 1. Hall in round 2. Sounds good to me.

How about both? Honestly this team at this point only has 2 glaring holes... well... maybe 3: CB2, WR depth (that might be your answer), and RB We have 9 picks in this draft, right? Are there 9 spots for rookies on this roster? Heck, are there even 5 or 6? I want to see Beane target 2 or 3 players (CB, WR, RB) and trade up to get them when he feels he should. Truthfully in terms of NEED I think the order goes CB then RB then WR. But I will be happy with those 3 in any order in our first 3 rounds. I forgot we also need to draft a QB if we don't get one in FA... so there's that.

It's also a lot easier now. Now BOTH the AFC West and North will be wars of attrition where teams will be lucky to go 4-2 in their division, whereas 4-2 for Buffalo in the AFC East next season would be incredibly disappointing. This combined with the fact that Buffalo plays arguably the worst division in the NFC next year in the North and the path to the #1 seed for Buffalo is right there.

Really is sad. He was such a staple of football coverage for so long.

Rather than having to read through all these pages, what's happening with Baker? Is he part of the trade? Does he go to Houston?

Think it's pretty awesome that he said to McDermott he's watched every Bills game since he's left Buffalo. Hope he can get back to that disruptive form.

Started to think we might actually keep him, but this really became inevitable once we granted him permission to seek a trade.